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2 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Don't even attempt to compare a couple of shirts to the millions of Trump flags and MAGA hats circulating in the backwater red areas of this country.  Not even close.  One was an energized political campaign.  One is a cult led by an orange moron.

It's  not even close around here.  Obama has long been forgotten but there are Trump shirts, hats, signs and flags everywhere.  It's strange.

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3 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Don't even attempt to compare a couple of shirts to the millions of Trump flags and MAGA hats circulating in the backwater red areas of this country.  Not even close.  One was an energized political campaign.  One is a cult led by an orange moron.

yours is still a cult lead by establishment war monger, big pharma big business

 

 

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the MSM is trying to spin the latino issue by spewing disinformation such as "some thought latinos would wildly swing to the republicans but this is not the case".  theres like, 2 people who thought that.  they bury the real story that latinos continue to vote republican in larger numbers.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

It's  not even close around here.  Obama has long been forgotten but there are Trump shirts, hats, signs and flags everywhere.  It's strange.

I vacation in Smith Mountain Lake Va.  To get there we drive from civilization NoVa and get progressively further into deep red Va.  As soon as you see the Trump flags with regularity you just know the confederate flags aren't far behind.  And they always go hand in hand.

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4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's  not even close around here.  Obama has long been forgotten but there are Trump shirts, hats, signs and flags everywhere.  It's strange.

you think it should be close with someone who can't run vs someone who is running?

to be clear, I have never and will never spend a single dollar on any politician nor put a sign anywhere near anything I have

 

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

That is not saying FTX donated to Ukraine, conspiracy theorist.  That is saying other people donated crypto through FTX, which is completely different and a story I already shared.

right a shady company doesn't do anything shady with shady governments, just a conspiracy

 

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4 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

I vacation in Smith Mountain Lake Va.  To get there we drive from civilization NoVa and get progressively further into deep red Va.  As soon as you see the Trump flags with regularity you just know the confederate flags aren't far behind.  And they always go hand in hand.

the separtists in Ukraine that wish for Donetsk and Luhansk to join Rusia adopted a flag similar to the confederate flag in 2014.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/09/new-russia-flag-confederate-undertones.html

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6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

you think it should be close with someone who can't run vs someone who is running?

to be clear, I have never and will never spend a single dollar on any politician nor put a sign anywhere near anything I have

 

I would never spend money on any of that either.  My experience is that Trump supporters love buying his stuff though.  I don't get it.  I'm guessing they do it because they think it upsets others.  Whatever makes you happy I guess.

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16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hey finance guy, has money finally gone to sleep? 

Is finance guy the new term for warehouse part ordering guy? We haven't forgotten what newbie's profession is.

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I would never spend money on any of that either.  My experience is that Trump supporters love buying his stuff though.  I don't get it.  I'm guessing they do it because they think it upsets others.  Whatever makes you happy I guess.

There's a reason his cultist are called deplorables. 

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

right a shady company doesn't do anything shady with shady governments, just a conspiracy

 

Why did FTX’s co-CEO donate $20 million to Republicans?

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1 minute ago, Raven Fan said:

There's a reason his cultist are called deplorables. 

I'm sure some are but I don't think most are.  I know a lot of these people and they good people, just a little extreme when it comes to politics.

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Why did FTX’s co-CEO donate $20 million to Republicans?

cause they donated to shady govt, follow along

Mcconnell is the current defacto leader of the GOP

Mcconnell failed to support non rhinos in the election

hes part of the uniparty

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13 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

I vacation in Smith Mountain Lake Va.  To get there we drive from civilization NoVa and get progressively further into deep red Va.  As soon as you see the Trump flags with regularity you just know the confederate flags aren't far behind.  And they always go hand in hand.

Ah, triggered DC Libs….the lowest possible life form. Always leaving their Liberal cesspool to ruin nice American towns. 

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12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yours is still a cult lead by establishment war monger, big pharma big business

 

 

Oh boy! A MAGAtard phraseology trifecta!

Never mind that:

1.) Our last major wars - Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan - were started under Republican president.

2.) Our aid to Ukraine has had bipartisan support.

3.) Republitard policies favor Big Pharma and Big Business.

Throw in Deep State and you hit for the cycle.

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4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Oh boy! A MAGAtard phraseology trifecta!

Never mind that:

1.) Our last major wars - Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan - were started under Republican president.

2.) Our aid to Ukraine has had bipartisan support.

3.) Republitard policies favor Big Pharma and Big Business.

Throw in Deep State and you hit for the cycle.

😂

gulf war, iraq and afghanistan were all bipartisan

I think you are missing the UNIPARTY aspect of this

pushing a mandatory vaccine is a Republican platform? cool, that must be why big pharma is the leading contributor to CNN and MSNBC

All big businesses donate to DEMS or Rhinos

Im sick of them all, you just get right in line with the we know whats best for you, the govt is here to help crowd

its why obama and GW are such good buddies, they like blowing up kids

 

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

cause they donated to shady govt, follow along

Mcconnell is the current defacto leader of the GOP

Mcconnell failed to support non rhinos in the election

hes part of the uniparty

Link to most of it going to McConnell?

Salame was the founder and pretty much the only donor to the “American Dream Federal Action” which is where the majority of his money went

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/10/american-dream-federal-action/

https://www.opensecrets.org/outside-spending/donor_detail/2022?id=U0000004758&type=I&super_only=N&name=Salame%2C+Ryan+D.+%26+Susan

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/american-dream-federal-action/C00809020/independent-expenditures/2022

Largest recipients were:

Rodney Davis, IL

Katie Boyd Britt, AL

Brad Finstad, MN

John Boozman, AR

Erin Houchin, IN

 

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12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

cause they donated to shady govt, follow along

Mcconnell is the current defacto leader of the GOP

Mcconnell failed to support non rhinos in the election

hes part of the uniparty

You guys and your conspiracy theories :rolleyes:

Haven't you had enough already? Let’s move on

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

gulf war, iraq and afghanistan were all bipartisan

I think you are missing the UNIPARTY aspect of this

pushing a mandatory vaccine is a Republican platform? cool, that must be why big pharma is the leading contributor to CNN and MSNBC

All big businesses donate to DEMS or Rhinos

Im sick of them all, you just get right in line with the we know whats best for you, the govt is here to help crowd

 

https://www.protectourcare.org/every-republican-in-the-house-voted-for-higher-drug-prices-higher-insurance-premiums-and-to-deny-health-care-to-millions/

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By voting against Build Back Better, every single Republican in the House voted against lowering health care costs for working families — despite overwhelming support from their own constituents. 

That hissing sound is the wind going of your argument balloon.

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5 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

oh yah I forgot it was a one issue vote, that rare bill that only has one topic right?

what part of healthcare does climate change cover?

how about foreign aide?

 

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

have you moved on from Russia?

That's different, OMB.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-s-build-back-better-bill-what-made-it-what-n1282643

how about talking for real, and saying Republicans opposed 1.75 trillion dollar fluff bill?

and dont try to spin it like oh look what republicans spend on

here

I am for the govt spending NOTHING.  If you cant do a balanced budget too focking bad

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2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

oh yah I forgot it was a one issue vote, that rare bill that only has one topic right?

what part of healthcare does climate change cover?

how about foreign aide?

 

So who is the big, bad Democrat warmongering president you're talking about?

FDR?

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Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

So who is the big, bad Democrat warmongering president you're talking about?

FDR?

Biden obviously, voted for every war, was part of the Obama administration that instilled the current regime in Ukraine, essentially starting the war we see today, not to mention the corruption he was part of there, and the continued funneling of american tax money supporting the war

once again, I am for zero foreign aid for war

I am for zero intervention

I am for zero war support of any kind

if someone attacks us, bury them, otherwise stay the fock out of other govts, how many govts have the United states been responsible for overthrowing in our lifetime alone?

 

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16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Link to most of it going to McConnell?

Salame was the founder and pretty much the only donor to the “American Dream Federal Action” which is where the majority of his money went

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/10/american-dream-federal-action/

https://www.opensecrets.org/outside-spending/donor_detail/2022?id=U0000004758&type=I&super_only=N&name=Salame%2C+Ryan+D.+%26+Susan

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/american-dream-federal-action/C00809020/independent-expenditures/2022

Largest recipients were:

Rodney Davis, IL

Katie Boyd Britt, AL

Brad Finstad, MN

John Boozman, AR

Erin Houchin, IN

 

this is what I know

https://yournews.com/2022/11/15/2454002/mcconnell-received-2-5-million-from-crypto-laundromat-ftx-for-his/

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9 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

have you moved on from Russia?

Yes.

And blackmailing Ukraine.

And January 6.

And the taxes.

It’s time we put this sh1t behind us.

You want to talk about governing plans and policies, great.

But enough with the focking QAnon conspiracy bullsh1t and I, for one, am really tired of the “culture wars” as well

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1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

Yes.

And blackmailing Ukraine.

And January 6.

And the taxes.

It’s time we put this sh1t behind us.

You want to talk about governing plans and policies, great.

But enough with the focking QAnon conspiracy bullsh1t and I, for one, am really tired of the “culture wars” as well

fair enough, this came to fruition in the last 3 days, its ok to talk about something that is current, but I agree with everything else you said

still don't know what Qanon does or how to sign up for their newsletter

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34 minutes ago, Reality said:

Is finance guy the new term for warehouse part ordering guy? We haven't forgotten what newbie's profession is.

It’s looking that way. 

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Biden obviously, voted for every war, was part of the Obama administration that instilled the current regime in Ukraine, essentially starting the war we see today, not to mention the corruption he was part of there, and the continued funneling of american tax money supporting the war

once again, I am for zero foreign aid for war

I am for zero intervention

I am for zero war support of any kind

if someone attacks us, bury them, otherwise stay the fock out of other govts, how many govts have the United states been responsible for overthrowing in our lifetime alone?

 

That first paragraph is utter bullsh1t, well in any way that matters. Yeah he was for the Iraq war and yeah that was a really bad decision, but it doesn’t have much bearing on today.

The rest, that’s fair. I think it ignores things like WWII and the Cold War and is way too isolationist, but I get it. And we can disagree about that and favor candidates/parties that are in line with our respective thinking :cheers:

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Just now, IGotWorms said:

That first paragraph is utter bullsh1t, well in any way that matters. Yeah he was for the Iraq war and yeah that was a really bad decision, but it doesn’t have much bearing on today.

The rest, that’s fair. I think it ignores things like WWII and the Cold War and is way too isolationist, but I get it. And we can disagree about that and favor candidates/parties that are in line with our respective thinking :cheers:

what part of the first paragraph is BS? 

1) We did instill the current regime in Ukraine

2) Biden Quid pro quo'd with Ukrainian leadership over Burisma investigation

3) we are sending billions to support a war currently

all 3 of those are true

 

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7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

All it says is “someone at FTX.”  Even if it was Salame that’s only about 10% of what he donated in total.

Also, lol at that link, I’m sure they’re not biased at all.  I still have not seen any evidence Ukraine was “giving” anything to FTX.  I guess you could claim FTX was “giving” money to Ukraine because it was used as a third party for other people to donate crypto to Ukraine, but still not what the conspiracy theorists are trying to imply.  And of course that would just mean both the US gov’t and FTX were giving money to Ukraine, which screws up the conspiracy circle claiming the money is going from the gov’t to Ukraine then back to the Dems.

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

what part of the first paragraph is BS? 

1) We did instill the current regime in Ukraine

2) Biden Quid pro quo'd with Ukrainian leadership over Burisma investigation

3) we are sending billions to support a war currently

all 3 of those are true

 

There you go with the QAnon stuff again :rolleyes:

Bottom line — and absolutely no other insane conspiracy sh1t you can come up with change this — RUSSIA INVADED THE UKRAINE.

We didn’t invade Russia.

The Ukraine didn’t invade Russia.

Get that through your thick focking skull.

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Just now, TimHauck said:

All it says is “someone at FTX.”  Even if it was Salame that’s only about 10% of what he donated in total.

Also, lol at that link, I’m sure they’re not biased at all.  I still have not seen any evidence Ukraine was “giving” anything to FTX.  I guess you could claim FTX was “giving” money to Ukraine because it was used as a third party for other people to donate crypto to Ukraine, but still not what the conspiracy theorists are trying to imply.  And of course that would just mean both the US gov’t and FTX were giving money to Ukraine, which screws up the conspiracy circle claiming the money is going from the gov’t to Ukraine then back to the Dems.

it was the first thing that was atop google, I just linked what I had heard elsewhere

 

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11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

fair enough, this came to fruition in the last 3 days, its ok to talk about something that is current, but I agree with everything else you said

still don't know what Qanon does or how to sign up for their newsletter

This should help you understand the issues with the qanon theories.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/QAnon

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16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Biden obviously, voted for every war, was part of the Obama administration that instilled the current regime in Ukraine, essentially starting the war we see today, not to mention the corruption he was part of there, and the continued funneling of american tax money supporting the war

once again, I am for zero foreign aid for war

I am for zero intervention

I am for zero war support of any kind

if someone attacks us, bury them, otherwise stay the fock out of other govts, how many govts have the United states been responsible for overthrowing in our lifetime alone?

 

So it's bipartisan support when applied to wars launched under Republican presidents but warmongering when it's military aid to Ukraine with no boots on the ground.

Gotcha!

😂

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Just now, IGotWorms said:

There you go with the QAnon stuff again :rolleyes:

Bottom line — and absolutely no other insane conspiracy sh1t you can come up with change this — RUSSIA INVADED THE UKRAINE.

We didn’t invade Russia.

The Ukraine didn’t invade Russia.

Get that through your thick focking skull.

where did I say Russia didn't invade Ukraine?

I said we instilled and supported the overthrow of the ukrainian government in 2014

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

I think the Cato organization is pretty moderate

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