DeSantis and his stupid laws

[jonmx 1,589]

1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said:

What’s the lefts endgame here? 

- destroy the nuclear family

- population reduction

- create division within the population.

- create dependency on government protection.

- control access to information and control the news.

- control education.

- elimination of individual rights to speech, guns, wealth.

- eatablish a Supreme ruling class with a partnership between big government and corporations.  

Just the typical quest for wealth and power which has always been the root of all evil since the beginning of mankind.  

[Dizkneelande 839]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

- destroy the nuclear family

- population reduction

- create division within the population.

- create dependency on government protection.

- control access to information and control the news.

- control education.

- elimination of individual rights to speech, guns, wealth.

- eatablish a Supreme ruling class with a partnership between big government and corporations.  

Just the typical quest for wealth and power which has always been the root of all evil since the beginning of mankind.  

Bingo 

[Dizkneelande 839]

I’m watching this garbage on Hulu. The first 15 minutes have been about voter suppression in Georgia. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517]

2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

I’m watching this garbage on Hulu. The first 15 minutes have been about voter suppression in Georgia. 

You talking about that garbage 1619 project revising history to fit the agenda?

Why bother? You know its propaganda.

[The Real timschochet 2,934]

3 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

I’m watching this garbage on Hulu. The first 15 minutes have been about voter suppression in Georgia. 

It’s an excellent show isn’t it? Hopefully more people will watch. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s an excellent show isn’t it? Hopefully more people will watch. 

If you like revisionist history propaganda, it is!

It's about as accurate with history as you are with the Russian Revolution! 

[RLLD 3,455]

6 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

I’m watching this garbage on Hulu. The first 15 minutes have been about voter suppression in Georgia. 

Maybe the next 15 minutes will be about the faked moon landing 

[Dizkneelande 839]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s an excellent show isn’t it? Hopefully more people will watch. 

It’s garbage. They have some putz named Woody Holton who made the Dunmore claim. Emancipation wasn’t the aim of Dunmore’s proclamation, and the revolution was already underway. Woody Holton doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Here he is retreating from the proclamation claim.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/10/28/5438-o28.html

[Dizkneelande 839]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Maybe the next 15 minutes will be about the faked moon landing 

No the are now talking about cameras being installed in classrooms to prevent teachers from teaching accurate history.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

No the are now talking about cameras being installed in classrooms to prevent teachers from teaching accurate history.

  

Of course they would say this!  What a bunch of revisionist nonsense.  Turns out Joseph McCarthy was right about Communists and their propaganda - he was just 60 years too early.

[Dizkneelande 839]

This Nikole Hannah-Jones chick has a pretty fair complexion. Turns out she is a half racist whitey -

Hannah-Jones was born in Waterloo, Iowa, to father Milton Hannah, who is African-American, and mother Cheryl A. Novotny, who is white and of Czech and English descent.

Seems strange that all the mixed-race grifters screaming white privilege tend to identify as the black part. 

[The Real timschochet 2,934]

24 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

If you like revisionist history propaganda, it is!

It's about as accurate with history as you are with the Russian Revolution! 

Yeah that’s not really an analogy I would be making if I were you. It’s always rather unwise to depend on Justincharge for historical conclusions (actually for any conclusions but I digress.) 

[Dizkneelande 839]

45 minutes in January 6th, ID requirements, ballot harvesting laws and preventing water from being handed out in polling lines are examples of white supremacy and a threat to democracy. Sh!tlibs want to teach this crap to children and don’t understand why taxpayers have a problem with this. 

[The Real timschochet 2,934]

7 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

This Nikole Hannah-Jones chick has a pretty fair complexion. Turns out she is a half racist whitey -

Hannah-Jones was born in Waterloo, Iowa, to father Milton Hannah, who is African-American, and mother Cheryl A. Novotny, who is white and of Czech and English descent.

Seems strange that all the mixed-race grifters screaming white privilege tend to identify as the black part. 

It is society who identifies most children of one black parent as black. 

[Dizkneelande 839]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

It is society who identifies most children of one black parent as black. 

OK there Talcum X

[The Real timschochet 2,934]

Just now, Dizkneelande said:

OK there Talcum X

OK I laughed. 

[The Real timschochet 2,934]

24 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

It’s garbage. They have some putz named Woody Holton who made the Dunmore claim. Emancipation wasn’t the aim of Dunmore’s proclamation, and the revolution was already underway. Woody Holton doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Here he is retreating from the proclamation claim.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/10/28/5438-o28.html

Interesting source you’ve got there. World Socialist News? 
 

Like Jon Mx, you totally missed the point about the Dunsmore story: it’s not being emphasized in any current history of the Revolution. In many textbooks it’s not even mentioned. If you conducted  a poll of high school students about the American Revolution, 99.99% of them couldn’t tell you who Dunsmore was. And that’s wrong, because slavery was essential to understanding the Revolution. The contrast between the liberty that Patrick Henry, a Virginia slaveholder, demanded for white people but denied to black people, is essential to understanding this nation and our shared history. And that’s what you’re trying to block. 

[jonmx 1,589]

44 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

I’m watching this garbage on Hulu. The first 15 minutes have been about voter suppression in Georgia. 

Nothing about the hundreds of thousands of votes which were rejected in Mariposa?  

[squistion 895]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It is society who identifies most children of one black parent as black. 

Particularly if they look like Nikole Hannah-Jones.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nikole+hannah-jones&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi51pakqu38AhV-JkQIHcZWBk4Q_AUoAnoECAIQBA&biw=1280&bih=646&dpr=1.5

[Dizkneelande 839]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Interesting source you’ve got there. World Socialist News? 
 

Like Jon Mx, you totally missed the point about the Dunsmore story: it’s not being emphasized in any current history of the Revolution. In many textbooks it’s not even mentioned. If you conducted  a poll of high school students about the American Revolution, 99.99% of them couldn’t tell you who Dunsmore was. And that’s wrong, because slavery was essential to understanding the Revolution. The contrast between the liberty that Patrick Henry, a Virginia slaveholder, demanded for white people but denied to black people, is essential to understanding this nation and our shared history. And that’s what you’re trying to block. 

Yes when wanting to understand socialists and marxists I tend to read what they actually say unlike what Fox News or CNN tell me. And what the fuk are you talking about they are emphasizing this in the series. I literally just heard it in episode 1. 

Speaking of fact - They proclaim Dunmore as an emancipator in the series. Dunmore was an enslaver which they fail to mention. 

[The Real timschochet 2,934]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Nothing about the hundreds of thousands of votes which were rejected in Mariposa?  

Lol why don’t you make your own film? You can call it “The Kari Lake Project”! 
 

Lolololol
 

[Dizkneelande 839]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Nothing about the hundreds of thousands of votes which were rejected in Mariposa?  

Of course not

[jonmx 1,589]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Interesting source you’ve got there. World Socialist News? 
 

Like Jon Mx, you totally missed the point about the Dunsmore story: it’s not being emphasized in any current history of the Revolution. In many textbooks it’s not even mentioned. If you conducted  a poll of high school students about the American Revolution, 99.99% of them couldn’t tell you who Dunsmore was. And that’s wrong, because slavery was essential to understanding the Revolution. The contrast between the liberty that Patrick Henry, a Virginia slaveholder, demanded for white people but denied to black people, is essential to understanding this nation and our shared history. And that’s what you’re trying to block. 

You are grossly distorting history and the reality of 1770's.  It is total crap.  There was not a serious threat to outlaw slavery by Britain in the 1770's.  The Dunmore's Proclamation was after the war started and was only offered to get endenured servants (WHITE PEOPLE) and slaves to support Britain in the war.  It is backwards ass logic to twist that into being a main factor leading to the Revolution.  In fact it is retarded, and any historian worth his salt laughs at such a ridiculous suggestion. 

[The Real timschochet 2,934]

6 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You are grossly distorting history and the reality of 1770's.  It is total crap.  There was not a serious threat to outlaw slavery by Britain in the 1770's.  The Dunmore's Proclamation was after the war started and was only offered to get endenured servants (WHITE PEOPLE) and slaves to support Britain in the war.  It is backwards ass logic to twist that into being a main factor leading to the Revolution.  In fact it is retarded, and any historian worth his salt laughs at such a ridiculous suggestion. 

You’re distorting what I wrote.
 

Tell me this: should the conflict between the ideals represented in the Declaration of Independence and the fact that so many of the Founding Fathers owned slaves be explored in history classes? Yes or no? 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re distorting what I wrote.
 

Tell me this: should the conflict between the ideals represented in the Declaration of Independence and the fact that so many of the Founding Fathers owned slaves be explored in history classes? Yes or no? 

As long as you give as much attention to the happy ending. 

[The Real timschochet 2,934]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

As long as you give as much attention to the happy ending. 

There’s no ending. It’s a continuing storyline. And there is happiness and sadness intertwined all throughout. 

[jonmx 1,589]

13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re distorting what I wrote.
 

Tell me this: should the conflict between the ideals represented in the Declaration of Independence and the fact that so many of the Founding Fathers owned slaves be explored in history classes? Yes or no? 

Ask anyone if our founding fathers owned slaves, and even our under educated masses would near unanimously say yes.   Knowledge about our dark past in slavery is not glossed over.  

[The Real timschochet 2,934]

Just now, jonmx said:

Ask anyone if our founding fathers owned slaves, and even our under educated masses would near unanimously say yes.   Knowledge about our dark past in slavery is not glossed over.  

I didn’t ask that. I asked if the CONFLICT between the two should be explored. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There’s no ending. It’s a continuing storyline. And there is happiness and sadness intertwined all throughout. 

 Not as far as the government is concerned.  Racism has been eradicated as it concerns the law and legislation. Now deal with individuals if they are racist. 

[RLLD 3,455]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 Not as far as the government is concerned.  Racism has been eradicated as it concerns the law and legislation. Now deal with individuals if they are racist. 

This is correct. The systemic racism that once existed has been dealt with.  What we now face is perhaps a more profound struggle, to unwind the damage done by the government for so many years that lingers in the culture of the AA's community.  How to do that, can be puzzling. The self-defeating nature of these problems and the way mediocrity is celebrated cannot be unwound by government action, nor overnight. 

[jonmx 1,589]

21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I didn’t ask that. I asked if the CONFLICT between the two should be explored. 

It is explored.  The history you wanted cemented in stone via the 1619 project though is a lie.  Florida is not stopping the history of slavery being discussed.  What they are rejecting is advamcing racist theories such as CRT and the 1619 Project.  It is a kin to teaching Holocaust denial.  The people of Florida are well within their rights to reject those kind of hate-filled divisive lies into the classrooms of their children. 

[craftsman 1,045]

 

‘Socialist’ teacher admits she wants to ‘abolish the police’ amid school curriculum battle with DeSantis

'Taylor sees capitalism as synonymous with racism,' accused a National Review op-ed

The battle over Florida school curriculum is heating up after a professor who was one of the key authors behind the College Board recommended AP African-American Studies (APAAS) course called to "abolish the police" and was accused of being a "socialist."

African American Studies professor at Northwestern University, Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, laughed off a recent op-ed from the National Review that identified her as one of the leading voices in an AP course that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis recently rejected and pointed to her left-wing political views. 

Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor "is a socialist, and in no way shy about it," the National Review wrote. 

The activist professor, who the National Review wrote would be part of the "recommended topic readings" for Florida students, allegedly wants capitalism to be replaced.

"Taylor sees capitalism as synonymous with racism, and she argues that any successful struggle against racism must ultimately replace capitalism as well."

Taylor also tweeted out one quote from the National Review opinion piece, which she jokingly called her "favorite." It was about her reputed fondness for dictators. 

"While Taylor rejects Stalin’s authoritarianism, she remains quite fond of Marx and Lenin." 

DeSantis has been accused of wanting to "block" the study of "Black Americans" after his administration rejected the College Board’s controversial AP AAS course, which relied heavily on activist authors like Taylor, according to the National Review.

A Boston Globe opinion columnist went even farther, writing that DeSantis’ refusal to admit the radical AP course "carries the stench of white slaveowners." 

DeSantis, on the other hand, has argued that the College Board’s course was "historically inaccurate" and designed to advance a woke agenda, instead of actual black history.

"This course on Black history, what’s one of the lessons about? Queer theory," DeSantis said on Jan. 23. 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/socialist-teacher-admits-she-wants-abolish-police-amid-school-curriculum-battle-with-desantis

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,517]

15 minutes ago, craftsman said:

 

‘Socialist’ teacher admits she wants to ‘abolish the police’ amid school curriculum battle with DeSantis

'Taylor sees capitalism as synonymous with racism,' accused a National Review op-ed

The battle over Florida school curriculum is heating up after a professor who was one of the key authors behind the College Board recommended AP African-American Studies (APAAS) course called to "abolish the police" and was accused of being a "socialist."

African American Studies professor at Northwestern University, Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, laughed off a recent op-ed from the National Review that identified her as one of the leading voices in an AP course that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis recently rejected and pointed to her left-wing political views. 

Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor "is a socialist, and in no way shy about it," the National Review wrote. 

The activist professor, who the National Review wrote would be part of the "recommended topic readings" for Florida students, allegedly wants capitalism to be replaced.

"Taylor sees capitalism as synonymous with racism, and she argues that any successful struggle against racism must ultimately replace capitalism as well."

Taylor also tweeted out one quote from the National Review opinion piece, which she jokingly called her "favorite." It was about her reputed fondness for dictators. 

"While Taylor rejects Stalin’s authoritarianism, she remains quite fond of Marx and Lenin." 

DeSantis has been accused of wanting to "block" the study of "Black Americans" after his administration rejected the College Board’s controversial AP AAS course, which relied heavily on activist authors like Taylor, according to the National Review.

A Boston Globe opinion columnist went even farther, writing that DeSantis’ refusal to admit the radical AP course "carries the stench of white slaveowners." 

DeSantis, on the other hand, has argued that the College Board’s course was "historically inaccurate" and designed to advance a woke agenda, instead of actual black history.

"This course on Black history, what’s one of the lessons about? Queer theory," DeSantis said on Jan. 23. 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/socialist-teacher-admits-she-wants-abolish-police-amid-school-curriculum-battle-with-desantis

Turns out Joseph McCarthy was right about the spread of Communism.  He was just 60 years to early.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

The March through the institutions. 

[Dizkneelande 839]

This is a loser for the left. If we had an honest media 90% of the public would be aghast at what is being taught in public schools. It’s also a threat to democracy for the media/left symbiote to declare that elected legislators cannot vote to change state education policy. It also implies that public educators should be insulated from accountability and democratic oversight, operating outside the purview of the very state legislatures that pay them.

[Fireballer 2,382]

1 hour ago, craftsman said:

 

‘Socialist’ teacher admits she wants to ‘abolish the police’ amid school curriculum battle with DeSantis

'Taylor sees capitalism as synonymous with racism,' accused a National Review op-ed

The battle over Florida school curriculum is heating up after a professor who was one of the key authors behind the College Board recommended AP African-American Studies (APAAS) course called to "abolish the police" and was accused of being a "socialist."

African American Studies professor at Northwestern University, Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, laughed off a recent op-ed from the National Review that identified her as one of the leading voices in an AP course that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis recently rejected and pointed to her left-wing political views. 

Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor "is a socialist, and in no way shy about it," the National Review wrote. 

The activist professor, who the National Review wrote would be part of the "recommended topic readings" for Florida students, allegedly wants capitalism to be replaced.

"Taylor sees capitalism as synonymous with racism, and she argues that any successful struggle against racism must ultimately replace capitalism as well."

Taylor also tweeted out one quote from the National Review opinion piece, which she jokingly called her "favorite." It was about her reputed fondness for dictators. 

"While Taylor rejects Stalin’s authoritarianism, she remains quite fond of Marx and Lenin." 

DeSantis has been accused of wanting to "block" the study of "Black Americans" after his administration rejected the College Board’s controversial AP AAS course, which relied heavily on activist authors like Taylor, according to the National Review.

A Boston Globe opinion columnist went even farther, writing that DeSantis’ refusal to admit the radical AP course "carries the stench of white slaveowners." 

DeSantis, on the other hand, has argued that the College Board’s course was "historically inaccurate" and designed to advance a woke agenda, instead of actual black history.

"This course on Black history, what’s one of the lessons about? Queer theory," DeSantis said on Jan. 23. 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/socialist-teacher-admits-she-wants-abolish-police-amid-school-curriculum-battle-with-desantis

Hold on...some posters here said black queer theory is just history of gay black people.  Racist.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

Radical teachers aren’t widespread. Just sucks if your kid gets one. If they do, suck it up racist. 

[dogcows 1,029]

On 1/29/2023 at 1:32 PM, RLLD said:

The systemic racism that once existed has been dealt with.

Then why are there still massive wealth disparities between black and white people?

[BuckSwope 654]

15 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Then why are there still massive wealth disparities between black and white people?

Could it be remnants from those policies even if they don't still exist.    

Even if we opened up things in the 70s and on to better jobs, home ownership, etc..  there were still decades of wealth head start that can't be corrected.   

[RLLD 3,455]

56 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Then why are there still massive wealth disparities between black and white people?

When the systemic factors were torn down the next step would have been to mimic the success factors of other groups, notably the Asians.

That was not done, instead the culture celebrated mediocrity and violence.