Mike Hunt 154 Posted February 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: In a recent televised interview on CBS' Face the Nation, when asked about potential reductions to Social Security and Medicare, McCarthy said, "No. Let's take those off the table." When pressed further, McCarthy added: "Yeah. I mean, if you read our commitment to America, all we talk about is strengthening Medicare and Social Security." POS Biden knew this. McCarthy acting much classier as opposition than Pelosi ever did in the same seat. Biden did OK on some issues. Total failure on border security though. Even some Dems had to be laughing at him on that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 Now everyone knows the majority of republicans don’t want to cut SS. So the majority doesn’t want it, and the leadership doesn’t want it. Thanks for pointing that out Joe!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted February 8, 2023 Junk Fees > Secure Border We need people to be able to afford credit card late fees so they can go on vacations! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: What do you think has higher ratings- Face the Nation or the SOTU tonight? It has nothing to do with being a simpleton. It has everything to do with optics. For the people that didn't see Face the Nation this plays as Biden looking like someone bringing people together regardless of the reality. You like being misled. You think it’s a good thing. He brought together the side that was already there. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, RogerDodger said: Junk Fees > Secure Border We need people to be able to afford credit card late fees so they can go on vacations! Credit card debt is at an all time high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 777 Posted February 8, 2023 Wow that guy has a little Richard thing going on with that rug 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Now everyone knows the majority of republicans don’t want to cut SS. So the majority doesn’t want it, and the leadership doesn’t want it. Thanks for pointing that out Joe!! Nobody wants it. Its political suicide. He saying "some" Republicans want it caused the biggest backlash and rightfully so. Lying POS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 877 Posted February 8, 2023 Just imagine this old coot 6 years from now. No way in hell he his President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, RogerDodger said: Nobody wants it. Its political suicide. He saying "some" Republicans want it caused the biggest backlash and rightfully so. Lying POS. If it’s only some it can’t happen. Thanks Joe! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,711 Posted February 8, 2023 You focking idiots that claim the Democratic party. You didn't seriously watch this address did you? Cuz damn.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,248 Posted February 8, 2023 It’s still just unbelievable this man is potus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted February 8, 2023 Even NBC is still taking about the price of eggs. This speech didnt help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,321 Posted February 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: What do you think has higher ratings- Face the Nation or the SOTU tonight? It has nothing to do with being a simpleton. It has everything to do with optics. For the people that didn't see Face the Nation this plays as Biden looking like someone bringing people together regardless of the reality. The other thing that Patented Phil is not telling you, or doesn’t know, is that at the same time Kevin McCarthy was assuring everyone on Face the Nation that there wouldn’t be any cuts to Social Security or Medicare, Rick Scott was on Fox News proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare. That’s why Biden said “some of you”- he was correct. And the response was a huge win for him tonight. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The other thing that Patented Phil is not telling you, or doesn’t know, is that at the same time Kevin McCarthy was assuring everyone on Face the Nation that there wouldn’t be any cuts to Social Security or Medicare, Rick Scott was on Fox News proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare. That’s why Biden said “some of you”- he was correct. And the response was a huge win for him tonight. How was it a huge win? Please explain the floor is yours: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The other thing that Patented Phil is not telling you, or doesn’t know, is that at the same time Kevin McCarthy was assuring everyone on Face the Nation that there wouldn’t be any cuts to Social Security or Medicare, Rick Scott was on Fox News proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare. That’s why Biden said “some of you”- he was correct. And the response was a huge win for him tonight. What were the “cuts” he was proposing? Kind of important to know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,370 Posted February 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The other thing that Patented Phil is not telling you, or doesn’t know, is that at the same time Kevin McCarthy was assuring everyone on Face the Nation that there wouldn’t be any cuts to Social Security or Medicare, Rick Scott was on Fox News proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare. That’s why Biden said “some of you”- he was correct. And the response was a huge win for him tonight. He put that horsefaced, caterwauling ###### MTG in her place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 “No one’s going to propose cuts to SS but I would veto it if they did”. Pretty much what he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,235 Posted February 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You like being misled. You think it’s a good thing. He brought together the side that was already there. Lol. You are just showing you are completely clueless as to what I am saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,321 Posted February 8, 2023 Just now, RogerDodger said: How was it a huge win? Please explain the floor is yours: The majority of the public is going to believe that Republicans want to cut Social Security and Medicare and Democrats don’t. When Republicans insist that isn’t true, Biden will look like a leader for “convincing” Republicans not to do it. He wins either way. That’s politics 101. It was absolutely brilliant. Also the “argument” that conservatives have been making for 3 years now, that Biden is too old and senile, is dead in the water. Like Reagan in 1984, Biden showed a lot of energy. His age won’t be an issue in 2024. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 Just now, Sean Mooney said: You are just showing you are completely clueless as to what I am saying. I get it. He said his part on a bigger stage even though it was disingenuous. You think that’s a win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,321 Posted February 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What were the “cuts” he was proposing? Kind of important to know? In terms of politics, it’s not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: The majority of the public is going to believe that Republicans want to cut Social Security and Medicare and Democrats don’t. When Republicans insist that isn’t true, Biden will look like a leader for “convincing” Republicans not to do it. He wins either way. That’s politics 101. It was absolutely brilliant. Also the “argument” that conservatives have been making for 3 years now, that Biden is too old and senile, is dead in the water. Like Reagan in 1984, Biden showed a lot of energy. His age won’t be an issue in 2024. It’s off the table now. He can’t claim it anymore. Thanks Joe! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted February 8, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: The majority of the public is going to believe that Republicans want to cut Social Security and Medicare and Democrats don’t. . Tim's world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 877 Posted February 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The other thing that Patented Phil is not telling you, or doesn’t know, is that at the same time Kevin McCarthy was assuring everyone on Face the Nation that there wouldn’t be any cuts to Social Security or Medicare, Rick Scott was on Fox News proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare. That’s why Biden said “some of you”- he was correct. And the response was a huge win for him tonight. Yeah ok. https://cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sen-rick-scott-we-have-preserve-benefits-social-security-and Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: In terms of politics, it’s not. Wow. Translation: I don’t know. I’m just repeating something I heard. They may not even be cuts he proposed, but changes. But I’m gonna go with it anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Patented Phil said: Yeah ok. https://cnsnews.com/article/washington/melanie-arter/sen-rick-scott-we-have-preserve-benefits-social-security-and So he wants to cut out fraud and abuse. Tim says that’s cutting the program. He just repeats what he hears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,235 Posted February 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I get it. He said his part on a bigger stage even though it was disingenuous. You think that’s a win Right because optics are a thing....regardless of whether you or I like it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 Just now, Sean Mooney said: Right because optics are a thing....regardless of whether you or I like it... Democrats count on low information voters. So yeah, you’re right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,235 Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Democrats count on low information voters. So yeah, you’re right. Republicans do it too. It's a political rhetorical tactic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 877 Posted February 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The majority of the public is going to believe that Republicans want to cut Social Security and Medicare and Democrats don’t. When Republicans insist that isn’t true, Biden will look like a leader for “convincing” Republicans not to do it. He wins either way. That’s politics 101. It was absolutely brilliant. Also the “argument” that conservatives have been making for 3 years now, that Biden is too old and senile, is dead in the water. Like Reagan in 1984, Biden showed a lot of energy. His age won’t be an issue in 2024. He began his speech calling Chuck Schumer the Minority Leader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 He kept it together pretty well. I’ll give him that. And of course it will be billed as the greatest SOU ever. As far as speaking to his side of the aisle he did a good job. They aren’t intellectually curious, so it’s not difficult to fool them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,321 Posted February 8, 2023 Trump can’t beat him. Maybe DeSantis can but we’ll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,321 Posted February 8, 2023 Does anyone know who yelled “your fault!” when Biden mentioned fentanyl? That was really ugly. McCarthy looked really embarrassed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Does anyone know who yelled “your fault!” when Biden mentioned fentanyl? That was really ugly. McCarthy looked really embarrassed. You care more about that than the actual, preventable problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,018 Posted February 8, 2023 The top moment of the SOTU Speech: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,321 Posted February 8, 2023 Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ response was a total disaster. Biden’s talking about infrastructure and the economy, and Sanders is talking about woke agendas and high crime. The public doesn’t like the dark agenda that Republicans are pushing. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,030 Posted February 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ response was a total disaster. Biden’s talking about infrastructure and the economy, and Sanders is talking about woke agendas and high crime. The public doesn’t like the dark agenda that Republicans are pushing. True. If you ignore crime it’s not happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,696 Posted February 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ response was a total disaster. Biden’s talking about infrastructure and the economy, and Sanders is talking about woke agendas and high crime. The public doesn’t like the dark agenda that Republicans are pushing. I don't know how she ended up getting elected. Jesus christ. Fat, stupid and untrustworthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 206 Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Beaker15 said: Pay your fair share lol I'm still waiting to be told how much is enough. Just watched the speech, I've never heard a percentage quantified because there is never enough. If they ever put a percentage on it, the math will show it's not enough that the "rich" can't be drenched with enough tax to cover our spending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 38 Posted February 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Old School said: Oh Fock. They are screaming “liar!” Not "they", just the woman that thought that trump was destined to break up a global baby eating pedo ring 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites