RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360 Posted February 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I at least use multiple sources and not the same one every time K. Like I said shoot the messenger I have linked to Dave Rubin numerous times. Jimmy dore, Russell brand, Steven crowder. I watch all of those guys daily. crowder right wing rubin and Tim pool left leaning libertarians Russell socialist anti woke anti war jimmy dore socialist comedian anti war as a matter of fact Jimmy dore is my favorite anti war guy around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted February 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The blame it on Trump honeymoon is over. It’s been two years and the democrats had the congress for that time. If you can get trillions of dollars passed you can take measures to improve safety. If there were, I’d like to see them. It’s possible, but not probable. Lots of big money invested in railroad transportation. Black rock, vanguard and a bunch of other big players. Correct and pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted February 16, 2023 The Biden Administration Mantra: The buck stops over there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Reality said: Correct and pathetic. Does that mean we can stop bringing up all the other past administrations as well? No more blaming Trump, Obama, Bush and Clinton. Just focus on what we have now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 I don't know if it's just being noticed more and covered more or if something else is going on but there have been a lot of chemical fires in the last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted February 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Does that mean we can stop bringing up all the other past administrations as well? No more blaming Trump, Obama, Bush and Clinton. Just focus on what we have now. Just Obama. He was the beginning of the downfall of racial peace in this country. After 100+ years of strife, things were finally getting better. Then obama came along. People note down others who they think were great and should be remembered for what they stood for in their lives, in this case, obama should be remembered for what a massive failure the people of this country put in office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, seafoam1 said: Just Obama. He was the beginning of the downfall of racial peace in this country. After 100+ years of strife, things were finally getting better. Then obama came along. People note down others who they think were great and should be remembered for what they stood for in their lives, in this case, obama should be remembered for what a massive failure the people of this country put in office. There's a whole other group of people who feel the same about Trump. This gets us nowhere. You either move on from both or you don't move on from any. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: There's a whole other group of people who feel the same about Trump. This gets us nowhere. You either move on from both or you don't move on from any. Those who think about Trump in that way don't know what they are talking about. The evidence is very clear. Extremely clear. What liberals THINK is not what the truth IS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, seafoam1 said: Those who think about Trump in that way don't know what they are talking about. The evidence is very clear. Extremely clear. What liberals THINK is not what the truth IS. They think exactly like you. Don't you see how dumb this is? Both sides think they are 100% right and that it's extremely clear. It reminds me of religions throughout history, each one thinks they worship the only true God and that the evidence is extremely clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: They think exactly like you. Don't you see how dumb this is? Both sides think they are 100% right and that it's extremely clear. It reminds me of religions throughout history, each one thinks they worship the only true God and that the evidence is extremely clear. No they don't. All you seem to do is fight about how everyone is wrong and no one is right by using your atheism as a pivot point. Yet you want to now blame Christianity or whatever for your own insanity. You know damn well Trump was lied about and skewered by the liberal media 24x7. And you believe what you heard instead of seeing what was being done right before your eyes. And what came of it? Creepy Joe. Good for you. Great voting there on your part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: No they don't. All you seem to do is fight about how everyone is wrong and no one is right by using your atheism as a pivot point. Yet you want to now blame Christianity or whatever for your own insanity. You know damn well Trump was lied about and skewered by the liberal media 24x7. And you believe what you heard instead of seeing what was being done right before your eyes. And what came of it? Creepy Joe. Good for you. Great voting there on your part. That is a strange interpretation of what I said. I'm Catholic, not atheist. It's obvious you can not get past your biases to see anything from a different point of view. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted February 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: That is a strange interpretation of what I said. I'm Catholic, not atheist. It's obvious you can not get past your biases to see anything from a different point of view. The truth is not biased. It just is what it is. And...whatever with your religion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, seafoam1 said: The truth is not biased. And...whatever with your religion... I also didn't vote for Biden. I just try to see things from both sides. Rarely is the truth as cut and dry as you like to believe. The truth to a lot of people is whatever they want it to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted February 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: They think exactly like you. Don't you see how dumb this is? Both sides think they are 100% right and that it's extremely clear. It reminds me of religions throughout history, each one thinks they worship the only true God and that the evidence is extremely clear. Not exactly. Democrats are something of a utopian cult, they assume that people are good and if we just treated everyone equally the outcomes would also be equal.....and this is utter nonsense. Republicans understand that outcomes will never be equal and that approach is just never going to work, so we let people do their thing and the chips fall where they may... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, RLLD said: Not exactly. Democrats are something of a utopian cult, they assume that people are good and if we just treated everyone equally the outcomes would also be equal.....and this is utter nonsense. Republicans understand that outcomes will never be equal and that approach is just never going to work, so we let people do their thing and the chips fall where they may... You're just saying what each believes. I'm saying democrats think they are the ones who are right and republicans are wrong and that republicans are the same way. They each truly believe they know the truth. I believe the truth lies somewhere in between. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: You're just saying what each believes. I'm saying democrats think they are the ones who are right and republicans are wrong and that republicans are the same way. They each truly believe they know the truth. I believe the truth lies somewhere in between. But you are incorrect. Just saying both sides are wrong in what they are saying doesn't make you automatically right. That always seems to be the "high road" in people's minds. You are simply wrong in this case. Identity politics was massively distributed by Obama. He treated people differently and preached it daily. Trump didn't preach it and he treated people the same when it came to race. You have to be joking here. Liberals run on an equity stance. Conservatives run on an equality stance. Liberals say "You fail, therefore we need to give you something to support your behavior." while conservatives say "You fail, change your behavior". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: But you are incorrect. Just saying both sides are wrong in what they are saying doesn't make you automatically right. That always seems to be the "high road" in people's minds. You are simply wrong in this case. Identity politics was massively distributed by Obama. He treated people differently and preached it daily. Trump didn't preach it and he treated people the same when it came to race. You have to be joking here. Liberals run on an equity stance. Conservatives run on an equality stance. Liberals say "You fail, therefore we need to give you something to support your behavior." while conservatives say "You fail, change your behavior". I don't think you're comprehending what I'm trying to say. I haven't said either side is right or wrong. All I'm saying is that both sides think they are right. You think you are 100% right but Tim also thinks he is 100% right. Am I making any sense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 798 Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I don't think you're comprehending what I'm trying to say. I haven't said either side is right or wrong. All I'm saying is that both sides think they are right. You think you are 100% right but Tim also thinks he is 100% right. Am I making any sense? No you ramble on about inconsequential whatabouts all the time. Are you autistic or something? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted February 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: You're just saying what each believes. I'm saying democrats think they are the ones who are right and republicans are wrong and that republicans are the same way. They each truly believe they know the truth. I believe the truth lies somewhere in between. Concur. There is a distinction, Democrats assign to their ideological opponents.....motive....calling them evil.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: No you ramble on about inconsequential whatabouts all the time. Are you autistic or something? You don't understand either. It's ok. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Concur. There is a distinction, Democrats assign to their ideological opponents.....motive....calling them evil.... I'm not saying I agree with them, I'm just saying they really think they are correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,912 Posted February 16, 2023 47 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: They think exactly like you. Don't you see how dumb this is? Both sides think they are 100% right and that it's extremely clear. It reminds me of religions throughout history, each one thinks they worship the only true God and that the evidence is extremely clear. And peefoam is worse if he’s saying it’s too late to blame Trump for anything but not too late to blame Obama… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm not saying I agree with them, I'm just saying they really think they are correct. Agree. Both sides are certain they are right. And neither is. They are each partially correct, but not as a constant either. When they moderate and meet in the middle, that is when they can at least meet maximum effectiveness.....but even then , the less they do the better.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Agree. Both sides are certain they are right. And neither is. They are each partially correct, but not as a constant either. When they moderate and meet in the middle, that is when they can at least meet maximum effectiveness.....but even then , the less they do the better.... Exactly. Nice to know someone is on the same page as me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted February 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Exactly. Nice to know someone is on the same page as me. So someone "on the same page" as you makes you right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted February 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Exactly. Nice to know someone is on the same page as me. Seems like there are a few that try to not see everything through R/D lenses all the time. I don't understand people who agree 100% with one political party, and that seems to be in high supply on these boards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted February 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: So someone "on the same page" as you makes you right? It means he understands what I'm talking about. It's not about being right. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,912 Posted February 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: Seems like there are a few that try to not see everything through R/D lenses all the time. I don't understand people who agree 100% with one political party, and that seems to be in high supply on these boards. Be careful, the board righties will say this makes you a lib. Proving your point of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 798 Posted February 16, 2023 It smells, fish dead in the river, headaches, sore throats, coughing, but hey the same government that said you needed to wear a mask and get 15 shots for covid says it's ok to return home and drink the water! Our tests say it's ok, trust the science! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted February 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: It means he understands what I'm talking about. It's not about being right. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. Gotcha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted February 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: Seems like there are a few that try to not see everything through R/D lenses all the time. I don't understand people who agree 100% with one political party, and that seems to be in high supply on these boards. It’s not about agreeing with a political party. It’s about disagreeing with an ideology. Plenty of republicans suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted February 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: It smells, fish dead in the river, headaches, sore throats, coughing, but hey the same government that said you needed to wear a mask and get 15 shots for covid says it's ok to return home and drink the water! Our tests say it's ok, trust the science! It was disappointing to hear a report from the ground last night that the EPA is refusing to answer some basic questions the locals have. Resident: "Is it safe to do XYZ?" EPA: "So far no test has proven that it's not safe" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted February 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: It was disappointing to hear a report from the ground last night that the EPA is refusing to answer some basic questions the locals have. Resident: "Is it safe to do XYZ?" EPA: "So far no test has proven that it's not safe" We live in a country that doesn't care in the least that fentanyl is flowing through the border. Why should anyone care about this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,912 Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: We live in a country that doesn't care in the least that fentanyl is flowing through the border. Why should anyone care about this? But what about Chicago!?!?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted February 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: We live in a country that doesn't care in the least that fentanyl is flowing through the border. Why should anyone care about this? Solid point. Biden ran on and even passed his toxic burn pit regulations and all the unknown health problems they are loosely linked to. So It is a bit surprising to see Biden not comment when a toxic burn is happening in his own backyard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted February 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: But what about Chicago!?!?!? What about it? It's run by a liberal. What else do you need to know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: That is a strange interpretation of what I said. I'm Catholic, not atheist. It's obvious you can not get past your biases to see anything from a different point of view. You've made some excellent observations in this thread, and seafoam keeps underscoring your point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted February 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: We live in a country that doesn't care in the least that fentanyl is flowing through the border. Why should anyone care about this? Who doesn't care about this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, Pimpadeaux said: You've made some excellent observations in this thread, and seafoam keeps underscoring your point. Yes, both-sidesism, groundbreaking stuff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
