School Board Pres Tries To Shut Down Dad Reading Aloud Book From School Library

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[TheNewGirl 1,357]

Which book is it? 

 

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3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Which book is it? 

 

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[Mike Honcho 5,124]

7 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Which book is it? 

 

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10 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Which book is it? 

 

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[BuckSwope 654]

This is such a dumb internet "gotcha".   Having a book available in a library <> reading a book out loud.    So yeah, if there are younger kids at the meetings or kids it's not appropriate for, then that is a reason to not read it out loud.   Just because somebody agrees that it might not be appropriate in all contexts, doesn't mean it should be removed from the library.   

People have lost their damn minds.  

[BuckSwope 654]

That said, in this particular instance where it was just adults - yeah, they should be able to read it and have a discussion about the book.   Give the parent his point and time - THEN tell him he's being dumb and stop trying to remove books.   

ETA:  my reaction above was too much to do with other examples of similar I have seen with families at these meetings and the dumb 'gotcha' because they cut them off from reading something.   

 

[Mike Honcho 5,124]

23 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Which book is it? 

 

The Black Stallion, but it's not the one written by Walter Farley in 1941.   

[BuckSwope 654]

I guess I will just never understand the right's obsession about what books are in a freakin' library, or how they can't explain why they just can't not read them and go on with their lives.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

12 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

That said, in this particular instance where it was just adults - yeah, they should be able to read it and have a discussion about the book.   Give the parent his point and time - THEN tell him he's being dumb and stop trying to remove books.   

ETA:  my reaction above was too much to do with other examples of similar I have seen with families at these meetings and the dumb 'gotcha' because they cut them off from reading something.   

 

The school board appears to have a process in place for parents who don't like school books, and that is to go to the superintendent, not read the book at the school board.

But every parent wants to be an internet star and show that they are standing up for the kids.  Talk about virtue signaling.

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16 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

This is such a dumb internet "gotcha".   Having a book available in a library <> reading a book out loud.    So yeah, if there are younger kids at the meetings or kids it's not appropriate for, then that is a reason to not read it out loud.   Just because somebody agrees that it might not be appropriate in all contexts, doesn't mean it should be removed from the library.   

People have lost their damn minds.  

Is there anything that shouldn’t be in a school library? 

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

The school board appears to have a process in place for parents who don't like school books, and that is to go to the superintendent, not read the book at the school board.

But every parent wants to be an internet star and show that they are standing up for the kids.  Talk about virtue signaling.

Thanks for the explanation.  That seems like a dumb can of worms to open up, too if we are talking about what is in a library.   In the classroom or as a recommended assignment from a teacher?  Of course.  

Agree on the bolded - like I said, this seems to have become a dumb trend and an internet "gotcha".  

[Mike Honcho 5,124]

43 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Which book is it? 

 

Maybe something from this list

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Is there anything that shouldn’t be in a school library? 

God, this again?   Yes, Hustler should not be at a school library.   

We don't need to clog this up with more of our back and forth.   We don't agree on this topic and we don't agree that removal of most of these books is rational.    I basically never agree with the books I see as being challenged and usually won't agree the solution is taking them off the shelves.   The solution is transparency and for people who choose not to read them to continue to do so.  

[BuckSwope 654]

4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Maybe something from this list

Lol.  Teddy would rather sit and watch.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

God, this again?   Yes, Hustler should not be at a school library.   

We don't need to clog this up with more of our back and forth.   We don't agree on this topic and we don't agree that removal of most of these books is rational.    I basically never agree with the books I see as being challenged and usually won't agree the solution is taking them off the shelves.   The solution is transparency and for people who choose not to read them to continue to do so.  

What’s the back and forth? You said people have lost their minds when referring to this video. Do you think the subject matter he was able to read belongs in a school library? 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

I find it hilarious that all these doosh bags with throw hissy fits about books in school libraries, meanwhile kids don't gets books from the library anymore, and all this sh1t and much worse is available in every kids pocket.

But sure, let's keep telling school boards what good parents we are that we want this filth out of our kids libraries.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I find it hilarious that all these doosh bags with throw hissy fits about books in school libraries, meanwhile kids don't gets books from the library anymore, and all this sh1t and much worse is available in every kids pocket.

But sure, let's keep telling school boards what good parents we are that we want this filth out of our kids libraries.

Just because you were dumb enough to give a fourth grader a smart phone, don’t think everyone else is. 

[Mike Honcho 5,124]

58 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Which book is it? 

 

Cooking with Pooh   

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Just because you were dumb enough to give a fourth grader a smart phone, don’t think everyone else is. 

My kids didn't get phones until middle school, nice try, but fail, again.

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8 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

God, this again?   Yes, Hustler should not be at a school library.   

We don't need to clog this up with more of our back and forth.   We don't agree on this topic and we don't agree that removal of most of these books is rational.    I basically never agree with the books I see as being challenged and usually won't agree the solution is taking them off the shelves.   The solution is transparency and for people who choose not to read them to continue to do so.  

When considering content for a publicly funded school, you have to address specific reasoning to fund that content.  You’re  concentrating on reasons to not remove it because you think the content is no big deal.  What’s the specific reason to have this content in the first place?  

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What’s the back and forth? You said people have lost their minds when referring to this video. Do you think the subject matter he was able to read belongs in a school library? 

Our usual back and forth about context, taking books as a whole, and largely just avoiding stuff you don't like.   You know, the same things we've said to each other multiple times in our short relationship.   

I will say that, and you will focus on a couple sentences and accuse me of wanting porn in libraries and being a groomer.   

That sound familiar and about right?  

 

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2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

My kids didn't get phones until middle school, nice try, but fail, again.

Thas too early as well, smart guy.  I hope it made your life easier though. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

Just now, BuckSwope said:

Our usual back and forth about context, taking books as a whole, and largely just avoiding stuff you don't like.   You know, the same things we've said to each other multiple times in our short relationship.   

I will say that, and you will focus on a couple sentences and accuse me of wanting porn in libraries and being a groomer.   

That sound familiar and about right?  

 

No.  I may have asked if porn is ok to make a broader point, but I don’t think you believe it belongs there. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Thas too early as well, smart guy.  I hope it made your life easier though. 

What age are you planning on giving your kids phones?  What about use of a home computer?

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21 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

God, this again?   Yes, Hustler should not be at a school library.   

We don't need to clog this up with more of our back and forth.   We don't agree on this topic and we don't agree that removal of most of these books is rational.    I basically never agree with the books I see as being challenged and usually won't agree the solution is taking them off the shelves.   The solution is transparency and for people who choose not to read them to continue to do so.  

So you have no problem with bibles in school libraries? 

[The Real timschochet 6,472]

If I was a member of any of these school boards I would be terrified of parents at this point. Some of these parents have made terrorist like threats. The FBI has tried to investigate some of these but now Republicans in Congress are trying to stop that. 

[GobbleDog 985]

When my daughter was young we used to go to the Orlando Public Library every week to pick out new books from the children's section.

Most of them were normal, but occasionally I'd come across titles like "Why Sally Has Two Dads" and "Muhammad's Ramadan Vacation" and "Bill Likes Boys".  The all inclusive world in the children's section is weird.

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44 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

This is such a dumb internet "gotcha".   Having a book available in a library <> reading a book out loud.    So yeah, if there are younger kids at the meetings or kids it's not appropriate for, then that is a reason to not read it out loud.   Just because somebody agrees that it might not be appropriate in all contexts, doesn't mean it should be removed from the library.   

People have lost their damn minds.  

If the books are not appropriate to be read out loud, why the f are we using taxpayers dollars to put inappropriate material to children?   These are school libraries for children.  When the he11 is it appropriate to have a book which teaches children how to send pornographic pictures.  The left view of freedom of speech has become so backwards.

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7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Our usual back and forth about context, taking books as a whole, and largely just avoiding stuff you don't like.   You know, the same things we've said to each other multiple times in our short relationship.   

I will say that, and you will focus on a couple sentences and accuse me of wanting porn in libraries and being a groomer.   

That sound familiar and about right?  

 

WHOA!  WHOA....EASY THERE, BUDDY.   Hold your horses!

Don't be removing my porn.  That's fine. It's that other stuff that I have a problem with. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

What age are you planning on giving your kids phones?  What about use of a home computer?

They use computers now, with supervision. The thought among some people I have read  is not till 16. We’ll see about that, depending on how they mature.  But middle school is not happening. I don’t know anyone that did that.  They can have a flip phone to stay in touch and use the I pad at home for limited and monitored social media. 

[The Real timschochet 6,472]

3 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

So you have no problem with bibles in school libraries? 

Nobody should have a problem with that. I would think, though I don’t know, that most public school libraries have a Bible. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If I was a member of any of these school boards I would be terrified of parents at this point. Some of these parents have made terrorist like threats. The FBI has tried to investigate some of these but now Republicans in Congress are trying to stop that. 

The FBI is needed to investigate threats? 

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

When considering content for a publicly funded school, you have to address specific reasoning to fund that content.  You’re  concentrating on reasons to not remove it because you think the content is no big deal.  What’s the specific reason to have this content in the first place?  

I don't think there has to be a reason much more than an attempt to get books that would appeal to the wide range of kids you have coming through your school system.    You have to account for a variety of reading levels and in a HS anything from 14yos to 18 year olds checking out materials.    Not an easy task to get books for that range of kids.  

Like I said, I don't understand why the solution for these parents is not to just worry about their kids, but to remove books so that nobody's kids can read something, just because they find it evil or offensive.   Yes, some of these books that show up on these lists are 100% acceptable for a HS senior, but maybe not for somebody else's 14 year old Freshman a HS library needs to keep both in mind.  

[BuckSwope 654]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

So you have no problem with bibles in school libraries? 

I don't, no.   

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nobody should have a problem with that. I would think, though I don’t know, that most public school libraries have a Bible. 

Maybe some crazy lefties should start showing up at school board meetings and reading inappropriate passages out of the Bible out of context?   

[The Real timschochet 6,472]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The FBI is needed to investigate threats? 

Yes. 
 

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

[Hardcore troubadour 14,966]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Yes. 
 

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers

No, local and state police are more than capable of investigating threats.  They do it all the time. 

[The Real timschochet 6,472]

Just now, BuckSwope said:

Maybe some crazy lefties should start showing up at school board meetings and reading inappropriate passages out of the Bible out of context?   

Can you imagine how the right would freak out? 
 

But of course that wouldn’t happen because most people on the liberal side don’t believe in any kind of censorship. 

[The Real timschochet 6,472]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

No, local and state police are more than capable of investigating threats.  They do it all the time. 

Apparently not.