TheNewGirl 1,347 Posted October 18, 2023 15 hours ago, peenie said: Colonizers = people from Europe who colonized the Americas, Australia, Africa, the Caribbean and parts of Asia like India and Vietnam. People who act like they invented and discovered everything. When in fact they just distort history and likely would’ve died if not for the natives who helped them thrive and grow. How you gonna discover a place that already had people living there? Black = People who have recent ancestors from Africa. Colonialism or colonizing isn't specific to "people from Europe." Colonization occurs EVERYWHERE. It's not about discovery either. It's about establishing in an area. Doesn't have to be new, newly discovered or not have anyone living there. And it's been going on since ancient times and included all ethnic groups and races of people. You're focusing only on the last few hundred years with the Americas, because that's what you're choosing to get fired up about. Your dialogue has nothing to do with Cleopatra and Egyptians. If I were to really guess, you probably don't really give a shiiite what race Cleopatra was. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 699 Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, TheNewGirl said: Colonialism or colonizing isn't specific to "people from Europe." Colonization occurs EVERYWHERE. It's not about discovery either. It's about establishing in an area. Doesn't have to be new, newly discovered or not have anyone living there. And it's been going on since ancient times and included all ethnic groups and races of people. You're focusing only on the last few hundred years with the Americas, because that's what you're choosing to get fired up about. Your dialogue has nothing to do with Cleopatra and Egyptians. If I were to really guess, you probably don't really give a shiiite what race Cleopatra was. Oh No you Didn't 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted October 18, 2023 8 hours ago, peenie said: No where did I write black power or white power NOR am I claiming any affiliation or generic link to Egyptians NOR have I claimed to take credit for a history I didn’t create. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,836 Posted October 18, 2023 6 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: Colonialism or colonizing isn't specific to "people from Europe." Colonization occurs EVERYWHERE. It's not about discovery either. It's about establishing in an area. Doesn't have to be new, newly discovered or not have anyone living there. And it's been going on since ancient times and included all ethnic groups and races of people. You're focusing only on the last few hundred years with the Americas, because that's what you're choosing to get fired up about. Your dialogue has nothing to do with Cleopatra and Egyptians. If I were to really guess, you probably don't really give a shiiite what race Cleopatra was. CHECK AND MATE, PEENIE BIATCH!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 5:16 PM, TheNewGirl said: I am so tired of hearing about Jada and Will. They were/are an extremely toxic couple, both narcissistic d-bags who had children that are just as terrible. This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted October 18, 2023 6 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: Colonialism or colonizing isn't specific to "people from Europe." Colonization occurs EVERYWHERE. It's not about discovery either. It's about establishing in an area. Doesn't have to be new, newly discovered or not have anyone living there. And it's been going on since ancient times and included all ethnic groups and races of people. You're focusing only on the last few hundred years with the Americas, because that's what you're choosing to get fired up about. Your dialogue has nothing to do with Cleopatra and Egyptians. If I were to really guess, you probably don't really give a shiiite what race Cleopatra was. And This. TNG woke up this morning and chose VIOLENCE. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted October 19, 2023 22 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: Colonialism or colonizing isn't specific to "people from Europe." Colonization occurs EVERYWHERE. It's not about discovery either. It's about establishing in an area. Doesn't have to be new, newly discovered or not have anyone living there. And it's been going on since ancient times and included all ethnic groups and races of people. You're focusing only on the last few hundred years with the Americas, because that's what you're choosing to get fired up about. Your dialogue has nothing to do with Cleopatra and Egyptians. If I were to really guess, you probably don't really give a shiiite what race Cleopatra was. You clearly can’t read. I’ve already stated that based on what I’ve read Cleopatra had Greek origins. No argument. I was making the point that Egyptians, the ones on the walls the ones who made the Sphinx were black Africans. I was not trying to prove that I personally was genetically linked to them. As a matter of fact I even wrote that you and I (or any poster here) are more genetically related to each other than I am to an East African. However, just so you know, West Africans and East Africans traded with each throughout history. Lastly, my point, since you all clearly missed it, is that to look at today’s Egyptians and make conclusions about Egyptians thousands of years ago (after so many invasions) is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as looking at today’s Americans or Puerto Ricans or Australians and thinking that the majority population looks the same without taking into account the mixing that has occurred over hundreds and thousands of years. Once again, find me some brown skinned (keep in mind, I’m black yet those people in the walls are darker than me) curly haired, big lipped people that aren’t black with the same bone structure (jutting chin and face that slopes forward). Btw, it ridiculous that you call me racist. Race is a white persons invention. I didn’t start this thread. Just because I jumped in to give my opinion that counters the claims of all the posters here, I’m racist? All I’m saying is that the ancient Egyptians were black African. That’s racist? How? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted October 19, 2023 16 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: CHECK AND MATE, PEENIE BIATCH!!!!! I haven’t disrespected anyone here or called anyone a derogatory name. I’m not thin skinned but you’ve crossed the line by calling me the b-word. I would’ve chuckled at this post had you not included it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,347 Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, peenie said: You clearly can’t read. I’ve already stated that based on what I’ve read Cleopatra had Greek origins. No argument. I was making the point that Egyptians, the ones on the walls the ones who made the Sphinx were black Africans. I was not trying to prove that I personally was genetically linked to them. As a matter of fact I even wrote that you and I (or any poster here) are more genetically related to each other than I am to an East African. However, just so you know, West Africans and East Africans traded with each throughout history. Lastly, my point, since you all clearly missed it, is that to look at today’s Egyptians and make conclusions about Egyptians thousands of years ago (after so many invasions) is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as looking at today’s Americans or Puerto Ricans or Australians and thinking that the majority population looks the same without taking into account the mixing that has occurred over hundreds and thousands of years. Once again, find me some brown skinned (keep in mind, I’m black yet those people in the walls are darker than me) curly haired, big lipped people that aren’t black with the same bone structure (jutting chin and face that slopes forward). Btw, it ridiculous that you call me racist. Race is a white persons invention. I didn’t start this thread. Just because I jumped in to give my opinion that counters the claims of all the posters here, I’m racist? All I’m saying is that the ancient Egyptians were black African. That’s racist? How? I still hold my position that you really don't care what Cleopatra's race is. And the creation of race is moot. You're not racist because you give opinions, or that you think ancient Egyptians are black African. You're racist because of the posts you CLEARLY make against white people, and possibly other races that aren't black (I don't pay much attention if you say the same things about Asians or Middle Eastern groups). Please tell me how "white people" specifically invented race. I am happy to read any studies or links that you have because I wasn't able to find any. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,836 Posted October 19, 2023 4 hours ago, peenie said: I haven’t disrespected anyone here or called anyone a derogatory name. I’m not thin skinned but you’ve crossed the line by calling me the b-word. I would’ve chuckled at this post had you not included it. I did that as a joke. There's a reason I typed it "biatch" instead of "b#tch" but if that was not obvious to you then I apologize for offending you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted October 20, 2023 Race as a categorizing term referring to human beings was first used in the English language in the late 16th century. Until the 18th century it had a generalized meaning similar to other classifying terms such as type, sort, or kind. Occasional literature of Shakespeare’s time referred to a “race of saints” or “a race of bishops.” By the 18th century, race was widely used for sorting and ranking the peoples in the English colonies—Europeans who saw themselves as free people, Amerindians who had been conquered, and Africans who were being brought in as slave labour—and this usage continues today. Britannica Systema naturae in 1735, in which the Swedish naturalist Carl Linnaeus proposed a classification of humankind into four distinct races. With the 1776 edition of his book, On the Natural Variety of Mankind, German scientist Johan Friedrich Blumenbach is credited with creating one of the first race-based classifications. He decided on five categories: "Caucasian, the white race; Mongolian, the yellow race; Malayan, the brown race, Ethiopian, the black race, and American, the red race." Each race was ranked, and he put "Caucasian" at the top. Note: European’s notion of blackness originated from the inhabitants of EAST Africa, you know, where the Egyptians reside. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted October 20, 2023 Fear of a black hat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,836 Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, peenie said: Vox? No wonder you've been getting it wrong this entire time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted October 20, 2023 11 hours ago, peenie said: Race is a white persons invention. Are you sure white people aren't just acting like they invented race? Word on the street is colonizers like to do that. On 10/17/2023 at 6:00 PM, peenie said: Colonizers = people from Europe who colonized the Americas, Australia, Africa, the Caribbean and parts of Asia like India and Vietnam. People who act like they invented and discovered everything. When in fact they just distort history and likely would’ve died if not for the natives who helped them thrive and grow. How you gonna discover a place that already had people living there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,216 Posted October 20, 2023 Can we at least all agree on one thing. Jada is a sociopath, The only bullet Tupac ever dodged and probably is going to kill Will Smith eventually in a murder suicide like Phil and Bree Hartman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted October 20, 2023 Will Smith is having a rough time of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted October 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: Can we at least all agree on one thing. Jada is a sociopath, The only bullet Tupac ever dodged and probably is going to kill Will Smith eventually in a murder suicide like Phil and Bree Hartman. She was extremely beautiful when she was young ( obviously you need to be good looking to be in films in Hollywood, for the most part) and she still looks very good for her age now. (Imagine her as just a regular person with a regular job/career) I suppose part of the lesson here is really good looking people are still people. And once you get past their looks, the same baggage, problems, conflict, etc, etc, that everyone else deals with comes into play. There are different variations of the saying, but they all about approximate the same - Women tend to age like milk. The lesson I glean from this is pick someone of good character. It doesn't mean to ignore physical attraction. But jettison anyone who doesn't have good character first. Many people, nearly all I imagine, will associate good looks with all kinds of other "perceived" positive traits. But it might not be true. Find a pretty teenage girl in some church somewhere, and her grandmother will say she's "a sweet girl" to others. Is she? She's pretty and young and doesn't have the life experience to rack up decades of carnage and mayhem. But maybe she is, and maybe she's not. Once you get to the point in your life that good looks don't sway you anymore ( not that the concept in itself is easy by any means) then life becomes much simpler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted October 20, 2023 He didn’t tell the story well, but in short, Will was aggressive with comedian Tommy Davidson. Tommy was in a movie with Jada and Will was jealous of their kissing scene . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted October 20, 2023 8 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Vox? No wonder you've been getting it wrong this entire time. I worked in a genetics lab for years after taking graduate level genetics classes. I still work in research. We are all one human race. Of course Europeans have Neanderthal DNA but the rest of us are human, homo sapien. Race is a social construct, not based in biology. Feel free to research it yourself since you know so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, peenie said: I worked in a genetics lab for years after taking graduate level genetics classes. I still work in research. We are all one human race. Of course Europeans have Neanderthal DNA but the rest of us are human, homo sapien. Race is a social construct, not based in biology. Feel free to research it yourself since you know so much. I think you'll find that conservatives are so tied up using race as a club to pound on liberals they won't be able to understand or won't understand the truth. If you take the time to immerse yourself in the Trump loving corners of the world, much worse than this one, you'll see that many conservatives love love love to talk about the 13% and crime, cite ridiculous IQ studies by race, and basically blame all of this countries ills on blacks first, jews second. When you cite the reality that blacks kill at such a higher % due entirely to the drug game, they don't care. When you mention that blacks kills whites at just about the percentage of their population and that drugs and the game are the real issues here, not race, they put their fingers in their ears and don't listen. When you mention that Chicago during prohibition was more violent due to the alcohol game than Chicago now, they don't care. Conservatives use race as a way to wedge themselves apart from the rest of the country. I have no hope this changes anytime soon, hopefully it does as the country gets better educated and younger. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted October 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: I think you'll find that conservatives are so tied up using race as a club to pound on liberals they won't be able to understand or won't understand the truth. If you take the time to immerse yourself in the Trump loving corners of the world, much worse than this one, you'll see that many conservatives love love love to talk about the 13% and crime, cite ridiculous IQ studies by race, and basically blame all of this countries ills on blacks first, jews second. Why you cite the reality that blacks kill at such a higher % due entirely to the drug game, they don't care. When you mention that blacks kills whites at just about the percentage of their population and that drugs and the game are the real issues here, not race, they put their fingers in their ears and don't listen. When you mention that Chicago during prohibition was more violent due to the alcohol game than Chicago now, they don't care. Conservatives use race as a way to wedge themselves apart from the rest of the country. I have no hope this changes anytime soon, hopefully it does as the country gets better educated and younger. Nothing you wrote is true. “Throughout the 2000s, we thought we were on a holiday from homicide. In 2004, Chicago experienced 448 murders, for a homicide rate of 15.65 per 100,000 residents. That was less than half the murder rate in 1990, at the height of the Crack Wars.” “But it was still higher than the murder rate in 1929, the year of the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre, when Al Capone was the city’s crime kingpin and the streets were awash in blood as gangsters battled over illegal liquor sales during Prohibition. The 1920s saddled Chicago with international image for murder and violence that we still haven’t shaken off. The St. Valentine’s Day Massacre was so shocking it led the nation to reconsider whether Prohibition was worth the gang warfare it caused.” Here’s a linking proving you’re wrong Your conclusions about the right and race are laughable. I don’t believe you really believe that. Anyone with half a functioning brain sees the agenda driven leftist media obsession with race. https://x.com/seosquinn/status/1655980826197213185?s=46&t=Fib7p2nPeGXuJiuDfFsfmA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,788 Posted October 20, 2023 What's that thing where you put a tire filled with fuel around someone's neck and set ablaze? JPS needs that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,905 Posted October 20, 2023 I think I read recently that murder is at an all time historic low. (I guess kids are too busy making TikTok dances) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: Nothing you wrote is true. “Throughout the 2000s, we thought we were on a holiday from homicide. In 2004, Chicago experienced 448 murders, for a homicide rate of 15.65 per 100,000 residents. That was less than half the murder rate in 1990, at the height of the Crack Wars.” “But it was still higher than the murder rate in 1929, the year of the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre, when Al Capone was the city’s crime kingpin and the streets were awash in blood as gangsters battled over illegal liquor sales during Prohibition. The 1920s saddled Chicago with international image for murder and violence that we still haven’t shaken off. The St. Valentine’s Day Massacre was so shocking it led the nation to reconsider whether Prohibition was worth the gang warfare it caused.” Here’s a linking proving you’re wrong Your conclusions about the right and race are laughable. I don’t believe you really believe that. Anyone with half a functioning brain sees the agenda driven leftist media obsession with race. https://x.com/seosquinn/status/1655980826197213185?s=46&t=Fib7p2nPeGXuJiuDfFsfmA You're 1000% wrong. Look on this very forum how often blacks and 13% are brought up. More extreme sites constantly talk about blacks having lower IQs and I'm sure that's the feeling here among many conseravatives. Conservatives seem to need a boogeyman to explain away their own failings in life. Illegals, blacks, women, etc. All getting ahead while these poor, smart, hard working, god fearing white dudes just can't catch a break. Makes me laugh even typing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted October 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: You're 1000% wrong. Look on this very forum how often blacks and 13% are brought up. More extreme sites constantly talk about blacks having lower IQs and I'm sure that's the feeling here among many conseravatives. Conservatives seem to need a boogeyman to explain away their own failings in life. Illegals, blacks, women, etc. All getting ahead while these poor, smart, hard working, god fearing white dudes just can't catch a break. Makes me laugh even typing it. You deny basic facts and statistics. You’re a retarded leftist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: You deny basic facts and statistics. You’re a retarded leftist. For example? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 538 Posted October 20, 2023 11 hours ago, peenie said: I worked in a genetics lab for years after taking graduate level genetics classes. I still work in research. We are all one human race. Of course Europeans have Neanderthal DNA but the rest of us are human, homo sapien. Race is a social construct, not based in biology. Feel free to research it yourself since you know so much. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-science-ghost/ghost-ancestors-african-dna-study-detects-mysterious-human-species-idUSKBN2072X9 Quote Scientists examining the genomes of West Africans have detected signs that a mysterious extinct human species interbred with our own species tens of thousands of years ago in Africa, the latest evidence of humankind’s complicated genetic ancestry. The study indicated that present-day West Africans trace a substantial proportion, some 2% to 19%, of their genetic ancestry to an extinct human species - what the researchers called a “ghost population.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites