GutterBoy Alleges That: "There Is No Logic Coming From Jordan Peterson" (Let's Explore That)

[seafoam1 2,798]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

You want mentally ill parents to give up custody of their kids?  No mentally ill people are allowed to talk to kids?

The left is all in on killing kids. Just kill them instead of raising them in a sick lifestyle. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

8 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

You want me to believe the narrative that the LGBTQ community is trying to groom my kids to be gay and have sex with them?

 

 

This film came out a decade ago. 

Nobody is laughing anymore. 

But it illustrates the most effective thing that parents can do about drag shows meant for kids. Show up, remove the kids, then stay and laugh in their face. 

A lot of transgenders get their rocks off by "shocking" others. It gets them attention. So give them attention, just not the kind that they want. It's more effective than shouting and anger. Just laugh in their faces at the utter ridiculousness of trying to justify putting this kind of stuff near kids. 

 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

45 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

It doesn't matter if they are mentally ill or not.

 

 

[zsasz 361]

Man,....this Blue Horseshoe sounds like one of those clowns that came over from that Football Guy Site.  

[seafoam1 2,798]

23 minutes ago, zsasz said:

Man,....this Blue Horseshoe sounds like one of those clowns that came over from that Football Guy Site.  

Only a liberal is as dumb as you. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

We've been thru this.  I asked where you got this, you said the APA,  I pointed out with a link that they are a lobbying organization which does not do research, you had nothing in response.  A month or two from now you'll rinse and repeat.

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder.

A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), a manual published by the American Psychiatric Association

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255#:~:text=A diagnosis for gender dysphoria,by the American Psychiatric Association.

Any other people claiming to be trans are confused, playing the victimivictimization and/or experiencing the undeniable widespread social contagion going on in this country.

There’s some confusion here and many people getting caught in it, some I suspect deliberately. 
 

Gender dysphoria is the condition that people have PRIOR to changing genders. The reason it’s a disorder is because these folks are not the right gender and they suffer from that fact. Once they have changed genders they no longer suffer from gender dysphoria. 

Many people believe, falsely, that anyone who has completed a sex change, suffers from a mental disorder. When challenged, they then go to the “gender dysphoria” card like you just did. But it’s a flawed argument. 

[seafoam1 2,798]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There’s some confusion here and many people getting caught in it, some I suspect deliberately. 
 

Gender dysphoria is the condition that people have PRIOR to changing genders. The reason it’s a disorder is because these folks are not the right gender and they suffer from that fact. Once they have changed genders they no longer suffer from gender dysphoria. 

Many people believe, falsely, that anyone who has completed a sex change, suffers from a mental disorder. When challenged, they then go to the “gender dysphoria” card like you just did. But it’s a flawed argument. 

They are mentally ill. You are wrong.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

That kids pageant sh1t is gross.  Republicans live it.

That idiot blue horseshoe thinks the boy is the problem in that video.

[seafoam1 2,798]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

That kids pageant sh1t is gross.  Republicans live it.

That idiot blue horseshoe thinks the boy is the problem in that video.

Liberal pedos like yourself are the problem 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

What I just wrote is why making laws prohibiting teenagers from receiving medical help to change genders is actually cruel and inhumane. These youths are suffering from gender dysphoria, and you are preventing them from being cured. That is why so many of them commit suicide. 
 

Being born into the wrong gender is not a choice. Nobody can be “groomed” into it or talked into it. It’s something that a tiny percentage of human beings have suffered from for our entire existence as a species. Now, finally, we have the means to cure it and some of you are intent on preventing this, based solely on your fears and prejudices. And that is a crime. 

[seafoam1 2,798]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

What I just wrote is why making laws prohibiting teenagers from receiving medical help to change genders is actually cruel and inhumane. These youths are suffering from gender dysphoria, and you are preventing them from being cured. That is why so many of them commit suicide. 
 

Being born into the wrong gender is not a choice. Nobody can be “groomed” into it or talked into it. It’s something that a tiny percentage of human beings have suffered from for our entire existence as a species. Now, finally, we have the means to cure it and some of you are intent on preventing this, based solely on your fears and prejudices. And that is a crime. 

Who cares what teenagers do? You liberals vote for killing babies. Why not kill sick teenagers?

[MDC 7,118]

53 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

That young trans boy is very irritating.

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

Who cares what teenagers do? You liberals vote for killing babies. Why not kill sick teenagers?

Why don’t you back to posting videos of Joe Biden tripping? You’re not good at posting actual arguments. 

[seafoam1 2,798]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Why don’t you back to posting videos of Joe Biden tripping? You’re not good at posting actual arguments. 

You don't agree with killing babies?

[Voltaire 5,181]

3 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

 

I wanted to see where this was going. That ending came out of nowhere and was focking disgusting.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What I just wrote is why making laws prohibiting teenagers from receiving medical help to change genders is actually cruel and inhumane. These youths are suffering from gender dysphoria, and you are preventing them from being cured. That is why so many of them commit suicide. 
 

Being born into the wrong gender is not a choice. Nobody can be “groomed” into it or talked into it. It’s something that a tiny percentage of human beings have suffered from for our entire existence as a species. Now, finally, we have the means to cure it and some of you are intent on preventing this, based solely on your fears and prejudices. And that is a crime. 

Where are you stats on the suicide rates vs the general population for kids? And in those stats, is gender dysphoria the only affliction they have? Are they also bi-polar? Drug use? Depressed for other reasons? Seems like you’re taking a narrative that hasn’t been thoroughly flushed out and running with it. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What I just wrote is why making laws prohibiting teenagers from receiving medical help to change genders is actually cruel and inhumane. These youths are suffering from gender dysphoria, and you are preventing them from being cured. That is why so many of them commit suicide. 
 

Being born into the wrong gender is not a choice. Nobody can be “groomed” into it or talked into it. It’s something that a tiny percentage of human beings have suffered from for our entire existence as a species. Now, finally, we have the means to cure it and some of you are intent on preventing this, based solely on your fears and prejudices. And that is a crime. 

Polls don’t agree with you even when polling democrats. Independents are against this 8 out of 10. It’s a loser for the Dems besides being sick and perverse. 

[MDC 7,118]

20 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I wanted to see where this was going and where this was going. That ending came out of nowhere and was focking disgusting.

The looks of disgust on the faces of the parents who were exploiting their daughters was priceless. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

The looks of disgust on the faces of the parents who were exploiting their daughters was priceless. 

Voltaire was only disgusted when the boy came out.  Tells you everything you need to know.

[seafoam1 2,798]

4 minutes ago, MDC said:

The looks of disgust on the faces of the parents who were exploiting their daughters was priceless. 

Should have taken the liberal route and killed their kids in the womb. That's a great approach.

[Voltaire 5,181]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Voltaire was only disgusted when the boy came out.  Tells you everything you need to know.

 I was disgusted when he took off his dress and started writhing around. It was creepy as hell. Neither boys, nor girls, nor boys dressed like girls, should do a striptease to Cherry Pie. 

Blue Horseshoe's comment that "nobody is laughing anymore" went over my head as I cannot imagine a time when I would ever have found any humor (or entertainment value) in this. 

 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

14 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

 I was disgusted when he took off his dress and started writhing around. It was creepy as hell. Neither boys, nor girls, nor boys dressed like girls, should do a striptease to Cherry Pie. 

Blue Horseshoe's comment that "nobody is laughing anymore" went over my head as I cannot imagine a time when I would ever have found any humor (or entertainment value) in this. 

 

 

 

The film "Bad Grandpa" came out in 2013. That scene was designed by Johnny Knoxville to point out the "normalization" of using children as props for the egos and sadism of the adults present. 

Predictably, many of the radical leftists here only locked into the half of the potential introspection, that fit their agenda, by focusing on the crowd of aghast "pageant mothers" However, what about those who parade around "transgender" children as props? This type of "normalization" and sadism isn't just restricted to heterosexuals and heterosexual parents. 

"Outrage" only becomes honest when it applies to everyone equally. The reason I say "no one is laughing anymore" is to highlight that to do so now would get someone "cancelled" for being transphobic. 

Michael Strahan should honestly be ashamed of himself. 

[Engorgeous George 2,121]

16 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

First off transgenders are not mentally ill. I know this because the vast majority of those who are expert about mental illness (doctors, psychologists, and psychiatrists) tell me so. 
 

Second, if you don’t want them around your kids fine. But don’t tell me what I can have around my kids. By passing laws on this stuff you’re interfering in MY freedoms.

It was nice of the vast majority of mental health experts to have contacted you to share that information.  Imagine if the had stopped sharing when only a minority had shared, or a bare majority.  Nice of them to make such a concerted effort.  Of course one wonders how you know it is a majority.  Maybe it was a large number of folks but still a minority, with the vast silent majority having yet to weigh in.

 

Also nice of them to have weighed in now when political considerations have gotten them to change, yet again, the DSM.  It is almost like their opinions are exactly the opposite of immutable.  In math 2 plus 2 continues to equal 4.  In chemistry we understand hydrogen likes to bind with oxygen, and does consistently to make water.  In pshychiatry diagnosis and labels change like the seasons.

 

I wonder about the blogs and professional sites of these experts.  I picture them reminding their membership to contact timschochet to tell him their thoughts on this subject.  There are always some stragglers that for one reason or another need to be reminded to get stuff like this done.

[zsasz 361]

12 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

I think you're hot and want to meet you.

Dude, come on....I'm blushing here.  

[RLLD 4,143]

16 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

The fact that this conversation is going on is an insult to the culture of the United States. 

These people need to go find another  country or territory somewhere in the world where they can set up new traditions, culture, lifestyles, etc. The people that came here did it.

And that all goes for the races that don't want to assimilate and become a part of this society as it has been set up. 

They can stop trying to change what we have grown into as a country and go somewhere else for their own "freedoms" that they can impose on anyone who wants to go where they are.

Sick of this shlt.

I am not on this boat.

I am fine with trannies being around. I mean, who cares.  Where the problem arises is two fold, first and foremost the actions around kids.  Secondly, the issue is the "or else" factor.

You see if trannies want to do their thing, thats fine....women can dress up lilke men and vice versa....you do you.  But a man cannot become a woman and a woman cannot become a man. Period.

Now, where they want to spark up this "believe this or else there will be violence".....I choose violence.  Too many times in the past this do it or else or believe this or else was tried, not going to accept that. 

So.....this idea that you will accept this or else makes my fock you muscle twitch.

[seafoam1 2,798]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I am not on this boat.

I am fine with trannies being around. I mean, who cares.  Where the problem arises is two fold, first and foremost the actions around kids.  Secondly, the issue is the "or else" factor.

You see if trannies want to do their thing, thats fine....women can dress up lilke men and vice versa....you do you.  But a man cannot become a woman and a woman cannot become a man. Period.

Now, where they want to spark up this "believe this or else there will be violence".....I choose violence.  Too many times in the past this was tried, not going to accept that. 

So.....this idea that you will accept this or else makes my fock you muscle twitch.

None of this has been about people "being around". It's about people pushing norms that aren't normal. If you are an exception, then just admit it and leave others out of your obsessions. It's like really fat people demanding that others find them beautiful. Screw off. 

[Sean Mooney 1,936]

On 6/4/2023 at 8:19 AM, RLLD said:

I see the parallels between current liberalism and pre-reformation christianity.  You have an "evil" to oppose, that being any non-believers. And unless the non-believers "cpnvert" they must be eliminated.

Both sides create boogeyman to go after. It's silly to pretend like they do not or to pretend like one side is above the other. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Also nice of them to have weighed in now when political considerations have gotten them to change, yet again, the DSM.  It is almost like their opinions are exactly the opposite of immutable.  In math 2 plus 2 continues to equal 4.  In chemistry we understand hydrogen likes to bind with oxygen, and does consistently to make water.  In pshychiatry diagnosis and labels change like the seasons.

Don't ignore the fact that science and medicine advances.  Sure 2+2 has and always will equal 4, but leeches and shock therapy don't cure disease anymore either.  Research and advances in medicine are good.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Don't ignore the fact that science and medicine advances.  Sure 2+2 has and always will equal 4, but leeches and shock therapy don't cure disease anymore either.  Research and advances in medicine are good.

Mutilating children doesn’t cure their mental illness. You support this.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

Shocking, board leftist's don't like facts, only feelings.

[RLLD 4,143]

29 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Both sides create boogeyman to go after. It's silly to pretend like they do not or to pretend like one side is above the other. 

Not exactly.  You see liberals establish what they think, and then if you even question it then you are labelled as "phobic" or evil.....that is unique, and its ability to divide us should be acknowledged for its toxicity.  What you are describing is the questioning and concerns raised by a side and then pretending " they are doing it. Nope. Not buying that....try something else. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Mutilating children doesn’t cure their mental illness. You support this.  

I don't support mutilating children, but all forms of care and mental health support that you oppose reduce suicide.  You support trans suicides.

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

Transgenderism is the 2010's/2020's... version of the 1980's/1990's... version of goth's & emo's.  It should be addressed the same way today as it was in the 80's and 90's.  "Let them be".  That's it.  You don't demean or discourage it, and just acknowledge it.  You also don't encourage or promote it.

[seafoam1 2,798]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I don't support mutilating children, but all forms of care and mental health support that you oppose reduce suicide.  You support trans suicides.

Made up diseases make more weak people say they have them. Just stop pushing the made up crap that didn't exist and shouldn't today exist.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Transgenderism is the 2010's/2020's... version of the 1980's/1990's... version of goth's & emo's.  It should be addressed the same way today as it was in the 80's and 90's.  "Let them be".  That's it.  You don't demean or discourage it, and just acknowledge it.  You also don't encourage or promote it.

This is my stance, along with most of America.  Who stole your account?

[Engorgeous George 2,121]

20 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Don't ignore the fact that science and medicine advances.  Sure 2+2 has and always will equal 4, but leeches and shock therapy don't cure disease anymore either.  Research and advances in medicine are good.

Yes they are.  I am simply opining that psychiatry is more of an evolving field, a social science as opposed to a hard science.  In many instances it is an opinion, an evolving norm, and not an immutable truth.  Appealling to those "experts"  as if that resolves a debate is laughable in my estimation when those same experts held a different opinion a decade ago and are likely to a decade hence.

 

Also, the pomposity of tim who has been repeatedly caught touting "studies" to prove his points that when read do the exact opposite is something worthy of tweeking.

[seafoam1 2,798]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Transgenderism is the 2010's/2020's... version of the 1980's/1990's... version of goth's & emo's.  It should be addressed the same way today as it was in the 80's and 90's.  "Let them be".  That's it.  You don't demean or discourage it, and just acknowledge it.  You also don't encourage or promote it.

Leftists don't know the meaning of not promoting and not encouraging their sick desires.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Yes they are.  I am simply opining that psychiatry is more of an evolving field, a social science as opposed to a hard science.  In many instances it is an opinion, an evolving norm, and not an immutable truth.  Appealling to those "experts"  as if that resolves a debate is laughable in my estimation when those same experts held a different opinion a decade ago and are likely to a decade hence.

It's not laughable.  Just because science changes as we learn more, doesn't mean we reject the current science based on what we know, because it could change in the future.

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

This is my stance, along with most of America.  Who stole your account?

Democrats are NOT doing that.  Democrats are pushing and promoting it.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Democrats are NOT doing that.  Democrats are pushing and promoting it.

Maybe a select few extremists, but the majority of people are not pushing for people to be transgender, come on.