GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Currently watching Hornets vs Spurs Summer League. All ten starters are African American. You know what? Don’t care. You draft, coach and play to win the game. Imagine if the NBA had “race quotas” to as @GutterBoy says to “open doors” for others. Good grief. NBA teams are different than college campuses. Do you need me to pick explain this to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted July 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: NBA teams are different than college campuses. Do you need me to pick explain this to you? This guy. Of course they are not the EXACT same. Thanks Sherlock. The overriding point remains. Hiring, firing, admissions, yada where a persons skin color or race is a contributing factor on those decisions is….in fact, racist. Meritocracy is blind to skin color, but keep with the word play and semantics. “Opening Doors!” JFC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: This guy. Of course they are not the EXACT same. Thanks Sherlock. The overriding point remains. Hiring, firing, admissions, yada where a persons skin color or race is a contributing factor on those decisions is…., in fact racist. Meritocracy is blind to skin color, but keep with the word play and semantics. “Opening Doors!” JFC You're a simpleton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted July 4, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: You're a simpleton. This guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,853 Posted July 4, 2023 42 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: You're a simpleton. Racist says what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,086 Posted July 4, 2023 The Democratic Party destroyed the African American community in America. There is no debating this they own it 100%. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 5, 2023 I see Gutterboy had a busy holiday weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: I see Gutterboy had a busy holiday weekend. Sorry to disappoint you but didn't even make the top 3. Tardcore had the most posts, per usual. https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/leaderboard/?in=forums-pid&custom_date_start=1688097600&custom_date_end=1688529599 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Sorry to disappoint you but didn't even make the top 3. Tardcore had the most posts, per usual. https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/leaderboard/?in=forums-pid&custom_date_start=1688097600&custom_date_end=1688529599 Wasn't talking about the number of posts, but yeah, a fair amount of them too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,576 Posted July 5, 2023 17 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: The Democratic Party destroyed the African American community in America. There is no debating this they own it 100%. I've often pointed this nugget of info out, generally along with articles that emphasize the importance in Nigerian American culture of family, education, and personal responsibility, which so happen to be the three things I believe that need the most improvement in the black inner city culture. I expect you'll find a lacking of responses from the Left here, as I usually do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,960 Posted July 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: I see Gutterboy had a busy holiday weekend. He had some free time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 5, 2023 18 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: The Democratic Party destroyed the African American community in America. There is no debating this they own it 100%. The issue is not one of skin color, it is one of culture. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,485 Posted July 7, 2023 The part I find the funniest about the Democrats on Affirmative Action is blatant admission of racism by their side and the people don't see it. The DNC is pushing the narrative to that Affirmative Action is necessary and that only racists would be opposed to it. Yet, the education system... especially at the college/university level, are the most leftist group in the country... further left than the DNC. The politicians are telling people that the colleges would be racist if Affirmative Action doesn't exist. LOL, the Democrat party is literally telling you that a Democrat organization is racist, and their constituency ignores that. That is too funny. If Democrats are supposedly the most educated people in the country, how come they're the dumbest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: The part I find the funniest about the Democrats on Affirmative Action is blatant admission of racism by their side and the people don't see it. The DNC is pushing the narrative to that Affirmative Action is necessary and that only racists would be opposed to it. Yet, the education system... especially at the college/university level, are the most leftist group in the country... further left than the DNC. The politicians are telling people that the colleges would be racist if Affirmative Action doesn't exist. LOL, the Democrat party is literally telling you that a Democrat organization is racist, and their constituency ignores that. That is too funny. If Democrats are supposedly the most educated people in the country, how come they're the dumbest? Man you are so lost. 8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: The politicians are telling people that the colleges would be racist if Affirmative Action doesn't exist. Politicians are not telling people this. It's the schools that want diversity because they feel it contributes to a better educational environment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: The part I find the funniest about the Democrats on Affirmative Action is blatant admission of racism by their side and the people don't see it. The DNC is pushing the narrative to that Affirmative Action is necessary and that only racists would be opposed to it. Yet, the education system... especially at the college/university level, are the most leftist group in the country... further left than the DNC. The politicians are telling people that the colleges would be racist if Affirmative Action doesn't exist. LOL, the Democrat party is literally telling you that a Democrat organization is racist, and their constituency ignores that. That is too funny. If Democrats are supposedly the most educated people in the country, how come they're the dumbest? I might suggest its worse than this. Let's keep in mind that these policies are pointedly for AA's.....no matter how much they pretend to not be. And their position is that unless we provide special consideration for AA's, they cannot compete with others who have the same situation.....but different skin color. And Yes, that IS racist. Their position is that the "system" is somehow magically racist in ways that none of us can see or find......but hey....its there, trust them.... And this system is so well built, it manages to not impact aaannnnyyyyy other minority, not even recent African immigrants.... This is the fantasy they beleive in their heart, without any doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted July 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, RLLD said: I might suggest its worse than this. Let's keep in mind that these policies are pointedly for AA's.....no matter how much they pretend to not be. And their position is that unless we provide special consideration for AA's, they cannot compete with others who have the same situation.....but different skin color. And Yes, that IS racist. Their position is that the "system" is somehow magically racist in ways that none of us can see or find......but hey....its there, trust them.... And this system is so well built, it manages to not impact aaannnnyyyyy other minority, not even recent African immigrants.... This is the fantasy they beleive in their heart, without any doubt. Comparing black people who came to America after 1970 to those who grew up here before then and were not allowed to vote, have certain jobs, swim in the same pools as white people, drink the same water, own homes in the same neighborhoods as white people, go to the same colleges, and on and on? Getting a family out of poverty VERY rarely happens in one generation. But you compare well-off recent immigrants to families forced by their own nation to live in poverty for generations. That doesn’t make a lot of sense. Also, AA is gone. So if you think history doesn’t affect the present, you should have immediately stopped whining about it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, dogcows said: Comparing black people who came to America after 1970 to those who grew up here before then and were not allowed to vote, have certain jobs, swim in the same pools as white people, drink the same water, own homes in the same neighborhoods as white people, go to the same colleges, and on and on? Getting a family out of poverty VERY rarely happens in one generation. But you compare well-off recent immigrants to families forced by their own nation to live in poverty for generations. That doesn’t make a lot of sense. Also, AA is gone. So if you think history doesn’t affect the present, you should have immediately stopped whining about it. I want to be sure I understand you here. You seem to be suggesting that people who have emigrated here are somehow immune from the racism? That.....people who came here after 1970....oh and by the way there are plenty of people who were BORN here after 1970....... are somehow immune from this horrible racism in our society? Not sure I am going to buy that....systemic racism should impact ALL minorities first and foremost....and certainly ANY ONE with dark skin..... This fantasy you want to live in.....where the system is so well crafted that it manages to ferret out ONLY those Africans born here is pretty laughable. What IS happening is that the system is weeding out shi!tbags........THAT is happening. And if you are not a sh!tbag, you WILL have a better life. It boils down to individual choices and a system that rewards "good". THAT is why an African from another culture can come here and enjoy such sucess, they do not carry the absolute bullsh!t whiney excuses and pretense that they have been put upon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, RLLD said: I want to be sure I understand you here. You seem to be suggesting that people who have emigrated here are somehow immune from the racism? That.....people who came here after 1970....oh and by the way there are plenty of people who were BORN here after 1970....... are somehow immune from this horrible racism in our society? Not sure I am going to buy that....systemic racism should impact ALL minorities first and foremost....and certainly ANY ONE with dark skin..... This fantasy you want to live in.....where the system is so well crafted that it manages to ferret out ONLY those Africans born here is pretty laughable. What IS happening is that the system is weeding out shi!tbags........THAT is happening. And if you are not a sh!tbag, you WILL have a better life. It boils down to individual choices and a system that rewards "good". THAT is why an African from another culture can come here and enjoy such sucess, they do not carry the absolute bullsh!t whiney excuses and pretense that they have been put upon. No you don’t understand, nor do you even seem to be making an attempt to understand. If you even had a 1% comprehension of what systemic racism is, you would know the answers to your own questions. Of course, there is still some level of racism from some INDIVIDUALS in America towards black people; even new immigrants will experience it from time to time. That’s not systemic, although some of is the byproduct of past SYSTEMS that intentionally divided white people and black people. But the biggest issue is the legacy of hundreds of years of making black people property, followed by giving them “freedom” but making them second-class citizens for another century. Many, many SYSTEMS were in place to enforce that. Those SYSTEMS didn’t go away overnight, and SYSTEMS are intended to preserve a status quo and to have long-lasting effects. We only STARTED dismantling those SYSTEMS in the 1960s. I don’t see why this is so difficult for people to understand. It’s been my observation that those who claim not to understand it... simply don’t want to understand it. If we stopped using trains tomorrow, we’d still have railroads for decades, maybe centuries before we dismantle them all. If we stopped burning fossil fuels tomorrow, we’d still have increased heat around the globe for decades. If we stopped using nuclear fusion tomorrow, we’d still have nuclear waste laying around forever. But to SOME people, they seem to believe there is no lasting legacy of hundreds of years of slavery and segregation. It’s fantastical thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 7, 2023 Systemic racism. Paranoid focking liberals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, dogcows said: No you don’t understand, nor do you even seem to be making an attempt to understand. If you even had a 1% comprehension of what systemic racism is, you would know the answers to your own questions. Of course, there is still some level of racism from some INDIVIDUALS in America towards black people; even new immigrants will experience it from time to time. That’s not systemic, although some of is the byproduct of past SYSTEMS that intentionally divided white people and black people. But the biggest issue is the legacy of hundreds of years of making black people property, followed by giving them “freedom” but making them second-class citizens for another century. Many, many SYSTEMS were in place to enforce that. Those SYSTEMS didn’t go away overnight, and SYSTEMS are intended to preserve a status quo and to have long-lasting effects. We only STARTED dismantling those SYSTEMS in the 1960s. I don’t see why this is so difficult for people to understand. It’s been my observation that those who claim not to understand it... simply don’t want to understand it. If we stopped using trains tomorrow, we’d still have railroads for decades, maybe centuries before we dismantle them all. If we stopped burning fossil fuels tomorrow, we’d still have increased heat around the globe for decades. If we stopped using nuclear fusion tomorrow, we’d still have nuclear waste laying around forever. But to SOME people, they seem to believe there is no lasting legacy of hundreds of years of slavery and segregation. It’s fantastical thinking. No, I actually understand it rather well, which is why I am able to relay with confidence that the premise is bullsh!t. If it were actually "systemic" we would 'a be able to target it and it would not be so focused in its impact. This premise that we are up against hundreds of years of racism is a false flag. Those people, and those issues, died with them. If we persist in this allowance that you can pull on some historical tragedy as an excuse for present dail failure you will get exactly what we see.....people who do not perform. This is not an issue of systems, or white people its culture....plain and simple. Why is the AA culture so sick you might ask? Well, let me tell you why....because white liberals continue to do things that pointedly harm and hinder them under the guise of virtuousness. That is why we continue to have the same problems, hell they are even worse. If you truly care, you will find a way to fix the AA family structure that Johnson ruined when he replaced AA fathers with government... We can see history, we have the stats. A majority of the 73.7 million American children under age 18 live in families with two parents is 69%, a decrease from 88 percent in 1960. Of those 50.7 million children living in families with two parents, 47.7 million live with two married parents and 3 million live with two unmarried parents. Broken down by race, however, the statistics show stark differences. The percentage of White children under 18 who live with both parents almost doubles that of Black children, according to the data. While 74.3 percent of all White children below the age of 18 live with both parents, only 38.7 percent of African-American minors can say the same. This was not always the case. Prior to legislation that paid black women if they had kids without a male in the picture, the AA family was strong and improving. That situation took a nose dive after the civil rights act in the 60's Instead, more than one-third of all Black children in the United States under the age of 18 live with unmarried mothers, compared to 6.5 percent of White children. The figures reflect a general trend: During the 1960-2016 period, the percentage of children living with only their mother nearly tripled from 8 to 23 percent and the percentage of children living with only their father increased from 1 to 4 percent. THAT is a enourmous part of the problem liberals actively ignore, because they cannot accept that such a policy as the War on Poverty could possibly be harmful. Until we stop pandering to these people and instead replace the hand-out pradigm with one that focuses on generational wealth.....you and yours will simply continue to harm and harm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 7, 2023 It's funny how liberals don't want to allow black people to succeed or fail all on their own. They don't want to treat them as if they are self responsible thinking human beings. There are a whole lot of white people that fail all the time and that's the way it goes. Should be the same for black people. Equality. Life will go on without them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: It's funny how liberals don't want to allow black people to succeed or fail all on their own. They don't want to treat them as if they are self responsible thinking human beings. There are a whole lot of white people that fail all the time and that's the way it goes. Should be the same for black people. Equality. Life will go on without them. EVERYTHING a liberal does should be reasonably expected to harm AA's. Here is more to chew on, California is moving to end child support payments for AA kids. You cannot make this stuff up, its like bizarro world Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: EVERYTHING a liberal does should be reasonably expected to harm AA's. Here is more to chew on, California is moving to end child support payments for AA kids. You cannot make this stuff up, its like bizarro world They have a TASK FORCE on it. 1,100 pages of "Black people are feeble braindead walkabouts. Black people are feeble braindead walkabouts. Black people are feeble braindead walkabouts. Black people are feeble braindead walkabouts....." California's Reparations Task Force called on the state legislature to cancel child support debt for black residents. In its nearly 1,100-page report released last week, the group suggested eliminating interest on past-due child support and back debt on the payments. The report claims these laws are "discriminatory" and have "torn African American families apart." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,960 Posted July 7, 2023 Most of the black kids in Baltimore are legit illiterate. But let’s get up in arms about Harvard. Hey Dogcows, any solution for the kids in Baltimore? It’s awesome that you have the really smart black kids back, but how about the multitude of the ones that can’t read? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,485 Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Man you are so lost. Politicians are not telling people this. It's the schools that want diversity because they feel it contributes to a better educational environment. If the schools want diversity, why the outrage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,485 Posted July 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Most of the black kids in Baltimore are legit illiterate. But let’s get up in arms about Harvard. Hey Dogcows, any solution for the kids in Baltimore? It’s awesome that you have the really smart black kids back, but how about the multitude of the ones that can’t read? The poor one's? He wants your tax dollars to pay them reparations so that they can be millionaire's for 10 years, then broke again. That way he can claim that white republican's are the reason to push racism that they democrats can stay in power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,485 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, RLLD said: EVERYTHING a liberal does should be reasonably expected to harm AA's. Here is more to chew on, California is moving to end child support payments for AA kids. You cannot make this stuff up, its like bizarro world Yup. In other words... 'We need to pretend to help black people, but what we're really doing is giving black men the excuse to not pay for their kids. Then, when the mothers and kids don't have enough money, we'll tell the woke idiots in our state that it's because the state needs to raise their welfare payouts. They'll buy it because they don't want to be called racist. After that, we'll increase minimum wage so that they can afford the tax increase. The net result is, "there's always a victim we can pander to and capitalize off of, so that we can stay in our big mansions taking money from the citizens and corporations". In reality though, this is only to pander to black men. They saw that in 2016, the biggest switch from left to right, nationally, was black men. If the left starts to lose black men, it's only a matter of time until they lose the vast majority and then the women will follow. It's just another pander scheme, just like reparations, to keep black people voting blue. They're never going to actually do anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Yup. In other words... 'We need to pretend to help black people, but what we're really doing is giving black men the excuse to not pay for their kids. Then, when the mothers and kids don't have enough money, we'll tell the woke idiots in our state that it's because the state needs to raise their welfare payouts. They'll buy it because they don't want to be called racist. After that, we'll increase minimum wage so that they can afford the tax increase. The net result is, "there's always a victim we can pander to and capitalize off of, so that we can stay in our big mansions taking money from the citizens and corporations". In reality though, this is only to pander to black men. They saw that in 2016, the biggest switch from left to right, nationally, was black men. If the left starts to lose black men, it's only a matter of time until they lose the vast majority and then the women will follow. It's just another pander scheme, just like reparations, to keep black people voting blue. They're never going to actually do anything. The biggest weakness in the black community is that they put up with the left treating them like children. Let equality truly happen and see what happens to the black community. They will either pick themselves up and be a part of a functioning society, or they will kill themselves off. Either is a better result than what the liberals are doing to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,960 Posted July 7, 2023 I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that not requiring black men to pay child support, but everyone else has to, isn’t going to pass judicial review. Do these liberal/ democrat morons just say whatever pops in their head? Who am I kidding. You have grown, college educated men right on this board that think men can menstruate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,485 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, seafoam1 said: The biggest weakness in the black community is that they put up with the left treating them like children. Let equality truly happen and see what happens to the black community. They will either pick themselves up and be a part of a functioning society, or they will kill themselves off. Either is a better result than what the liberals are doing to them. I agree. For the life of me, I can't understand why black people take being talked down to by the Left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: If the schools want diversity, why the outrage? Your side doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: Your side doesn't. School choice dlckhead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 7, 2023 35 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I agree. For the life of me, I can't understand why black people take being talked down to by the Left. Can you even imagine being pandered to by the likes of aoc? How focking insulting is that? And black people just basque in it for some reason. People like that don't belong here in the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted July 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that not requiring black men to pay child support, but everyone else has to, isn’t going to pass judicial review. Do these liberal/ democrat morons just say whatever pops in their head? Who am I kidding. You have grown, college educated men right on this board that think men can menstruate. From a legal standpoint, the relationship between a parent and their minor biological offspring is a fiduciary one. This is why so many grifters who chase big name sports stars are told to get the NFL player's name ( or NBA, MLB, etc , etc) on the birth certificate as fast as possible. In order to legally remove the actual duty from black parents to these black children, it would have to flush out all obligation to all offspring who have not yet reached the age of majority. So no professional elected official could openly support this without committing immediate political suicide over it. But the current political pathway is becoming more clear - The radical left is driving away the White Evangelical and the overall Christian vote in this country. Christians are just not going to sit back and bend the knee to a hard push to be pro abortion, letting boys saying they are girls in bathrooms with biological girls, watch competitive sports be invaded, get hit by inflation then see open racism at work ( i.e. "black privilege") to the detriment of actual children. Worse, it lends the unsettling perception of malice throughout Team Blue. Is that the message that Hakeem Jeffries wants out there? That they'll hunt fetuses in the womb, if they can't get them there, they will try to indoctrinate them in the schools, and barring that, they'll enable starving them out otherwise. This on top of the "Baby Formula Crisis" that went full supernova last year. Team Blue wants to persist in the toxic narrative that they simply hate all children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted July 8, 2023 4 hours ago, RLLD said: No, I actually understand it rather well, which is why I am able to relay with confidence that the premise is bullsh!t. If it were actually "systemic" we would 'a be able to target it and it would not be so focused in its impact. This premise that we are up against hundreds of years of racism is a false flag. Those people, and those issues, died with them. If we persist in this allowance that you can pull on some historical tragedy as an excuse for present dail failure you will get exactly what we see.....people who do not perform. This is not an issue of systems, or white people its culture....plain and simple. Why is the AA culture so sick you might ask? Well, let me tell you why....because white liberals continue to do things that pointedly harm and hinder them under the guise of virtuousness. That is why we continue to have the same problems, hell they are even worse. If you truly care, you will find a way to fix the AA family structure that Johnson ruined when he replaced AA fathers with government... We can see history, we have the stats. A majority of the 73.7 million American children under age 18 live in families with two parents is 69%, a decrease from 88 percent in 1960. Of those 50.7 million children living in families with two parents, 47.7 million live with two married parents and 3 million live with two unmarried parents. Broken down by race, however, the statistics show stark differences. The percentage of White children under 18 who live with both parents almost doubles that of Black children, according to the data. While 74.3 percent of all White children below the age of 18 live with both parents, only 38.7 percent of African-American minors can say the same. This was not always the case. Prior to legislation that paid black women if they had kids without a male in the picture, the AA family was strong and improving. That situation took a nose dive after the civil rights act in the 60's Instead, more than one-third of all Black children in the United States under the age of 18 live with unmarried mothers, compared to 6.5 percent of White children. The figures reflect a general trend: During the 1960-2016 period, the percentage of children living with only their mother nearly tripled from 8 to 23 percent and the percentage of children living with only their father increased from 1 to 4 percent. THAT is a enourmous part of the problem liberals actively ignore, because they cannot accept that such a policy as the War on Poverty could possibly be harmful. Until we stop pandering to these people and instead replace the hand-out pradigm with one that focuses on generational wealth.....you and yours will simply continue to harm and harm Wait, if I read this correctly you are saying that systemic racism isn't a thing while giving an example of a policy (system) that could be racist? You guys are so far up each other's asses with this L/R crap. Correct - democratic policies are part of that too, but you idiots run from the idea so much and make yourselfs look dumb by claiming there is nothing systemic going on. Hell, you don't even acknowledge that there still could be echos of those systems years later if they did stop. HERE is a paper talking about discrepancies in sentencing black vs white. I would think that higher incarcaration rates and longer sentences could also have a negative impact on the family structure. They used numbers from the late 00s, so I don't think it's far fetched to say there is still either systems still at play that we should talk about or at least ramifications of old systems and biases. YES - Baba Mama culture and other things are also at play. But watching you guys run for the hills whenever somebody says systemic racism because you are scared some kooky lib might try to make you feel guilty about it is funny. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted July 8, 2023 5 hours ago, RLLD said: No, I actually understand it rather well, which is why I am able to relay with confidence that the premise is bullsh!t. If it were actually "systemic" we would 'a be able to target it and it would not be so focused in its impact. This premise that we are up against hundreds of years of racism is a false flag. Those people, and those issues, died with them. If we persist in this allowance that you can pull on some historical tragedy as an excuse for present dail failure you will get exactly what we see.....people who do not perform. This is not an issue of systems, or white people its culture....plain and simple. Why is the AA culture so sick you might ask? Well, let me tell you why....because white liberals continue to do things that pointedly harm and hinder them under the guise of virtuousness. That is why we continue to have the same problems, hell they are even worse. If you truly care, you will find a way to fix the AA family structure that Johnson ruined when he replaced AA fathers with government... We can see history, we have the stats. A majority of the 73.7 million American children under age 18 live in families with two parents is 69%, a decrease from 88 percent in 1960. Of those 50.7 million children living in families with two parents, 47.7 million live with two married parents and 3 million live with two unmarried parents. Broken down by race, however, the statistics show stark differences. The percentage of White children under 18 who live with both parents almost doubles that of Black children, according to the data. While 74.3 percent of all White children below the age of 18 live with both parents, only 38.7 percent of African-American minors can say the same. This was not always the case. Prior to legislation that paid black women if they had kids without a male in the picture, the AA family was strong and improving. That situation took a nose dive after the civil rights act in the 60's Instead, more than one-third of all Black children in the United States under the age of 18 live with unmarried mothers, compared to 6.5 percent of White children. The figures reflect a general trend: During the 1960-2016 period, the percentage of children living with only their mother nearly tripled from 8 to 23 percent and the percentage of children living with only their father increased from 1 to 4 percent. THAT is a enourmous part of the problem liberals actively ignore, because they cannot accept that such a policy as the War on Poverty could possibly be harmful. Until we stop pandering to these people and instead replace the hand-out pradigm with one that focuses on generational wealth.....you and yours will simply continue to harm and harm This is 100% BS. Especially the part where you claim the issue of racism “died with them”. There are millions of people alive today who lived through segregation. They are most definitely NOT dead at all. So how could anything have died with them? There’s even one or two survivors of the 1921 Tulsa race massacre still alive today. You seem to have zero concept of time. I could throw more facts at you such as the #1 predictor of success is the wealth of one’s parents. Hmm, how might that affect a population that was systematically denied wealth? This wasn’t hundreds of years ago. It applies to people alive TODAY. https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/schooled2lose/ But honestly, you don’t seem to give a shite about anything other than repeating racist tropes and attacking liberals. So just glom onto one of Blue HorseShit’s threads and shitpost along with him. If you can’t even acknowledge that segregation puts a black person alive TODAY at a disadvantage to a white person of the same age? Then you’re just plain focking around and are completely unserious. You want to believe black people are bad, so you ignore history, and even the reality lived by people still alive today. Dumb and dumber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, dogcows said: This is 100% BS. Especially the part where you claim the issue of racism “died with them”. There are millions of people alive today who lived through segregation. They are most definitely NOT dead at all. So how could anything have died with them? There’s even one or two survivors of the 1921 Tulsa race massacre still alive today. You seem to have zero concept of time. I could throw more facts at you such as the #1 predictor of success is the wealth of one’s parents. Hmm, how might that affect a population that was systematically denied wealth? This wasn’t hundreds of years ago. It applies to people alive TODAY. https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/schooled2lose/ But honestly, you don’t seem to give a shite about anything other than repeating racist tropes and attacking liberals. So just glom onto one of Blue HorseShit’s threads and shitpost along with him. If you can’t even acknowledge that segregation puts a black person alive TODAY at a disadvantage to a white person of the same age? Then you’re just plain focking around and are completely unserious. You want to believe black people are bad, so you ignore history, and even the reality lived by people still alive today. Dumb and dumber. Liberals are the single most racist group in this country. Black people are second. Go somewhere else you focking retards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,853 Posted July 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, dogcows said: This is 100% BS. Especially the part where you claim the issue of racism “died with them”. There are millions of people alive today who lived through segregation. They are most definitely NOT dead at all. So how could anything have died with them? There’s even one or two survivors of the 1921 Tulsa race massacre still alive today. You seem to have zero concept of time. I could throw more facts at you such as the #1 predictor of success is the wealth of one’s parents. Hmm, how might that affect a population that was systematically denied wealth? This wasn’t hundreds of years ago. It applies to people alive TODAY. https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/schooled2lose/ But honestly, you don’t seem to give a shite about anything other than repeating racist tropes and attacking liberals. So just glom onto one of Blue HorseShit’s threads and shitpost along with him. If you can’t even acknowledge that segregation puts a black person alive TODAY at a disadvantage to a white person of the same age? Then you’re just plain focking around and are completely unserious. You want to believe black people are bad, so you ignore history, and even the reality lived by people still alive today. Dumb and dumber. Black people are now ASKING to be segregated. Where the f@ck have you been? MLK would be turning over in his grave to see the sad and sorry state of the black American's demands today. Everything he fought for down the drain. So much for NOT being judged by the color of your skin anymore. You can thank the American liberals for this. The most racist people in this country. You're a f'n idiot. GTFO with your DNC Glory Hole propaganda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, BuckSwope said: Wait, if I read this correctly you are saying that systemic racism isn't a thing while giving an example of a policy (system) that could be racist? Bernie Sanders in 2016 had a platform that sought to help bridge some of the massive wealth disparity in this country. Which would have dovetailed naturally into helping working class minorities across the board, including black Americans. While I don't agree with much of what Sanders says most of the time, I will say he had a focus on the basis material needs of working class citizens. Now people could have criticized Sanders on his potential elsewhere like foreign policy and energy and the bizarre Green New Deal, but he was a beacon of hope for many young Americans. None of us will ever know if Sanders could have beaten Trump in 2016. Because the DNC ticket was stolen from him in the primaries. Very rarely do you find anyone in the political pundit sphere, left or right, who disputes that. If you want change to the system, actually acknowledge that having establishment cronies like Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Shumer, Jeffries, Whitmer, Newsom and the rest don't help matters at all. Someone like Ramaswamy might be an "outsider" but his message reasonates with a lot of young people, working class people and minorities. Someone like Andrew Yang, while I don't agree with many things he says, also offers are more innovative type of thinking and approach. I won't agree that racism is as widespread as the DNC and the radical left purports it to be, but I won't deny it's existence period. But if you want real change to the system, then Democrats have to vote in someone outside the establishment. The GOP and Republican Party have lots of problems and corruption, no doubt. But Team Blue needs to clean it's own house first before they start in the endless pointing fingers about racism routine. Lots of people would vote for Katie Porter or an Abagail Spanberger or even a Tulsi Gabbard with full Party support. But they can't be controlled. The DNC only wants caricature level politicians who can be fully controlled. At some point, Black America has to find a way to save itself. Asians had to to do it, so African Americans need to do it as well. Point things out, sure, but you still have to move forward. Waiting for someone else to come save you or fix it or repair it is not logical. No one else is coming. Black America needs to find a way to pull itself upwards, fair or not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 8, 2023 13 hours ago, dogcows said: This is 100% BS. Especially the part where you claim the issue of racism “died with them”. There are millions of people alive today who lived through segregation. They are most definitely NOT dead at all. So how could anything have died with them? There’s even one or two survivors of the 1921 Tulsa race massacre still alive today. You seem to have zero concept of time. I could throw more facts at you such as the #1 predictor of success is the wealth of one’s parents. Hmm, how might that affect a population that was systematically denied wealth? This wasn’t hundreds of years ago. It applies to people alive TODAY. https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/schooled2lose/ But honestly, you don’t seem to give a shite about anything other than repeating racist tropes and attacking liberals. So just glom onto one of Blue HorseShit’s threads and shitpost along with him. If you can’t even acknowledge that segregation puts a black person alive TODAY at a disadvantage to a white person of the same age? Then you’re just plain focking around and are completely unserious. You want to believe black people are bad, so you ignore history, and even the reality lived by people still alive today. Dumb and dumber. Its entirely correct. Moreover, it uses the exact logic YOU and YOURS use when citing incarceration as an indicator. So, are you going to pretend its true for incarceration and NOT for single parents homes? Of course you are. Like an addict you cannot admit the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites