Michigan pronoun bill

[jerryskids 6,734]

18 hours ago, dogcows said:

Is the GOP your “side” or not? Because HB 1069, recently enacted in Florida, directly contradicts points 1 and 3.

http://laws.flrules.org/2023/105

 

As opposed to many Lefties, I don't agree with everything from every local GOP legislature. 

In this case I don't like the wording you posted as it compels speech.  I would prefer something along the lines of "no teacher shall be COMPELLED to use pronouns contrary to biological sex."  It helps that I believe that a small number of teens are trans, although I also believe the majority these days are caught in the social contagion.  But that is not for me to decide from afar.

[Mark Davis 389]

4 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Are we talking about the people that freak out when they see rainbows and shoot up cases of beer and signs?

Sure, I don't drink anyway so I'm not really worried about Budweiser one way or the other.  I run a business too and it's up to ownership and management to be good stewards of it and run it properly.  It's up to each company to learn how to market to their customers and keep their loyalty.  The market will figure out who that is in the end and the bottom line will tell the story. 

I don't get too offended by company's like Budweiser or more a product I might tend to buy like Ben and Jerry's.  If I want their ice cream in particular I'd buy it, but if I'm just in general wanting ice cream and not a particular type, yeah their public stances might be the tiebreaker where I'd buy another brand over them.  But that's their choice, it was a conscious one.  Maybe it works for them but that's not my concern nor is it the concern of any consumer.  That's what marketing is, trying to drive consumer actions.  Budweiser did that, maybe just not in the way intended but don't blame the consumer for their willing action.  I just view it as the opposite side of the coin from a winning campaign like the old Nike "Just Do It" one.

I never worried about folks on the left boycotting Chick Fil A either.  It made the lines shorter for my chicken sandwich.  If you like Bud Light, you probably got some discount pricing recently as well.  Market capitalism works in wonderful ways.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

6 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Still lamenting the fact that you can't sexually harass women anymore.  Scared that you can't intimidate gays either.

People like you are disgusting.

Oh isn’t that cute. Mr. Mom trying to troll.  Just like everything else, you suck at this too.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

3 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Never once supported a pedo, lying sack of sh1t, shut up.

Dude, your focking nickname in here is GutterPedo.  Everyone knows about your predilections.

[Fnord 2,198]

14 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

So, a proposed law that criminalizes speech is not a 1st Amendment issue?

 

18 hours ago, jonmx said:

It weaponizes the law against people who believe in basic biology.   You want to compell people to speak things which they know are not true.   You want to create even more laws which are used to selectively target a certain type of political belief.  There is a large rise in radical leftwing woke prosecutors and now the fbi who abuse the law to target conservatives.   The media is propagating these false boogeyman of evil white nationalists and are lumping everyone with conservative beliefs and are targeting them.  The law has lost its legitimacy and is not being used to administer justice but instead is being used to advance ideology. 

Uh, you two 1st amendment warriors might wanna check out what Florida is up to. You're fully on board with repudiating this monstrosity, right?

 

21 hours ago, dogcows said:

(1) It shall be the policy of every public K-12 educational institution that is provided or authorized by the Constitution and laws of Florida that a person’s sex is an immutable biological trait and that it is false to ascribe to a person a pronoun that does not correspond to such person’s sex.

 

21 hours ago, dogcows said:

(3) An employee or contractor of a public K-12 educational institution may not provide to a student his or her preferred personal title or pronouns if such preferred personal title or pronouns do not correspond to his or her sex

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

 

Uh, you two 1st amendment warriors might wanna check out what Florida is up to. You're fully on board with repudiating this monstrosity, right?

 

 

 

That’s a restriction. They’re all over the place. It’s a pity you still can’t grasp the difference. There are many, many things that are prohibited in schools that are legal and can be practiced in public.  

[Fnord 2,198]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s a restriction. They’re all over the place. It’s a pity you still can’t grasp the difference. There are many, many things that are prohibited in schools that are legal and can be practiced in public.  

Oh, thank you, now I get it. It's only a restriction written into law. Nevermind then, nothing to see here. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Oh, thank you, now I get it. It's only a restriction written into law. Nevermind then, nothing to see here. 

Yes. So there shouldn’t be any restrictions? How about gun free zones? 

[BuckSwope 654]

It's funny reading a bunch of grumpy old white guys who whine about being blamed for the bad stuff race to demand credit for the good stuff.   One way or the other, gents.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

I’d rather listen to grumpy old men than cucked white guilters virtue signaling.  Yuck.  

[jonmx 2,427]

21 hours ago, Fnord said:

 

Uh, you two 1st amendment warriors might wanna check out what Florida is up to. You're fully on board with repudiating this monstrosity, right?

 

 

 

Gosh, you are one stupid mofo.  A public employee being paid to teach other people's children is not engaging in free speech.  Citizens have free speech, not government and their employees.

[dogcows 1,030]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

Gosh, you are one stupid mofo.  A public employee being paid to teach other people's children is not engaging in free speech.  Citizens have free speech, not government and their employees.

There’s ample court precedent that school teachers don’t give up their first amendment rights when they step into the school.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

9 minutes ago, dogcows said:

There’s ample court precedent that school teachers don’t give up their first amendment rights when they step into the school.

They do while they’re in the school and working. Do we really have to go through examples or will you just accept for once? Think about those white Christians you’re so bothered by. 

[jonmx 2,427]

30 minutes ago, dogcows said:

There’s ample court precedent that school teachers don’t give up their first amendment rights when they step into the school.

Oh please show all these rulings to me that they have first Amendment rights while performing official duties.  The rulings make it very clear that their first Amendment rights exist only when they are speaking as private citizens..

[Reality 3,121]

This is the way...

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,037]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

This is the way...

 

We need a LOT more of this!!!  When people stand up to the whiners, criers and the professional - and perpetual - fake outrage babies then maybe they'll grow up and act like adults.  F@ck them - we need to rid society of these leftist and Marxist behaviors.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

12 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

We need a LOT more of this!!!  When people stand up to the whiners, criers and the professional - and perpetual - fake outrage babies then maybe they'll grow up and act like adults.  F@ck them - we need to rid society of these leftist and Marxist behaviors.

As we have seen many times, trans violence is real. Just be careful. 

[jonmx 2,427]

People are being imprisoned for protesting, censored for speaking out against government corruption, sued out of existence, media figures raids by the fbi....and all the leftist authoritarian bastards care about are about invented rights of these narcissistic buffoons to be called by their make believe pronouns. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,037]

40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

As we have seen many times, trans violence is real. Just be careful. 

Yep.  Violence is a "feature" of leftists, not an exception.

Add in mentally ill trannies and that amps it up even more.

[squistion 2,134]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

As we have seen many times, trans violence is real. Just be careful. 

Meh, you are more likely to be struck by lightning than being a victim of trans violence. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,037]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

Meh, you are more likely to be struck by lightning than being a victim of trans violence. 

Translation: "Trans violence is okay because they are on the same side as me and I like naked men".

[Mark Davis 389]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

We need a LOT more of this!!!  When people stand up to the whiners, criers and the professional - and perpetual - fake outrage babies then maybe they'll grow up and act like adults.  F@ck them - we need to rid society of these leftist and Marxist behaviors.

Agreed and not surprising they had video rolling.  It's all about playing the victim card for their Marxist views to show how they are the oppressed.  We've given in to this mental illness for too long.  The sky is blue not green, up isn't down, just because you dilute yourself mentally into an idea doesn't make it true.  This guy handled it perfectly though.  I doubt I'd have been so calm in that spot but he was great in the moment.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

19 minutes ago, squistion said:

Meh, you are more likely to be struck by lightning than being a victim of trans violence. 

True, and your chances of being a victim of white supremacists is much more significant. They’re out here Lynching people. Right? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,037]

23 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Agreed and not surprising they had video rolling.  It's all about playing the victim card for their Marxist views to show how they are the oppressed.  We've given in to this mental illness for too long.  The sky is blue not green, up isn't down, just because you dilute yourself mentally into an idea doesn't make it true.  This guy handled it perfectly though.  I doubt I'd have been so calm in that spot but he was great in the moment.

Yeah that guy handled it really well. I would have f****** walked out from behind the desk and punched the living s*** out of that m***********.

I have zero tolerance for woke nonsense and catering to the mentally ill.

[SUXBNME 1,484]

4 hours ago, squistion said:

Meh, you are more likely to be struck by lightning than being a victim of trans violence. 

Show me on the doll where you were touched 

[BuckSwope 654]

9 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yeah that guy handled it really well. I would have f****** walked out from behind the desk and punched the living s*** out of that m***********.

I have zero tolerance for woke nonsense and catering to the mentally ill.

No you wouldn't.   

Actually, you probably are dumb enough to fall for this obvious baiting from this idiot with a camera and would lose your job or go to jail over it.   Good thing this mature adult handled it the right way.  

[jonmx 2,427]

9 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

True, and your chances of being a victim of white supremacists is much more significant. They’re out here Lynching people. Right? 

Yep, just like an unjustifiable killing by cops is far rarer than someone getting killed by lightning.  But yet that was supposedly the biggest issue facing blacks in this country.  

[jonmx 2,427]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

No you wouldn't.   

Actually, you probably are dumb enough to fall for this obvious baiting from this idiot with a camera and would lose your job or go to jail over it.   Good thing this mature adult handled it the right way.  

Isn't it nice to know the idiot votes exactly like you and the politicians you vote for cater to his/her/it demands.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,278]

14 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Isn't it nice to know the idiot votes exactly like you and the politicians you vote for cater to his/her/it demands.  

Great point. Imagine being alligned with that? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,037]

35 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

No you wouldn't.   

Actually, you probably are dumb enough to fall for this obvious baiting from this idiot with a camera and would lose your job or go to jail over it.   Good thing this mature adult handled it the right way.  

Tell us your a lefty without telling us your a lefty. 

Good old Centrist BuckSwope™ making it known he's a centrist!  Don't attack the snowflake making the video, attack the guy posting about it. 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

Imagine being so weak and out of control emotionally that your first reaction to something you disagree with is violence.  Sad.

[League Champion 1,909]

4 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Imagine being so weak and out of control emotionally that your first reaction to something you disagree with is violence.  Sad.

It's sad how violent these LGBTQ folks get, isn't it? Especially with their mass shootings. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,037]

8 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Imagine being so weak and out of control emotionally that your first reaction to something you disagree with is violence.  Sad.

Which, is funny, cuz I never see you in here talking that way about trannies when they're violent, which is most of the time.

GTFO, you f****** moron!

[BuckSwope 654]

"Attack"     what a poosy.  

Sorry, "idiot with a camera" wasn't good enough.  I forgot the Trumpers around here need the proper catch phrases used to figure out people's opinions. 

Sorry, BR, I will rephrase:

Actually, you probably are dumb enough to fall for the obvious baiting from this mentally ill Marxist radical with a camera to lose your job or go to jail over it.  

It won't happen again, I promise to use the proper terms and phrases.  

 

[League Champion 1,909]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I never see you in here talking that way about trannies when they're violent, which is most of the time

Funny how that works with Pedocrats, isn't it? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,037]

BuckDope the Centrist telling everybody he's a leftist without telling everybody he's a leftist.  

 

[League Champion 1,909]

27 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Imagine being so weak and out of control emotionally that your first reaction to something you disagree with is violence.  Sad.

Then it's a good thing that our Hero Police neutralized the Tranny Murderer before it killed more innocent victims. 

 

 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

42 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Which, is funny, cuz I never see you in here talking that way about trannies when they're violent, which is most of the time.

GTFO, you f****** moron!

Violent transexuals are weak and emotionally immature just like yourself.  You keep good company. Sad.

[League Champion 1,909]

5 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Violent transexuals

Are Democrats 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,037]

14 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Violent transexuals are weak and emotionally immature just like yourself.  You keep good company. Sad.

Yeah, okay tranny lover.