Sleeper RB's - who ya got

[GobbleDog 989]

22 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

Why is Mattison ranked so low on early rankings? He's the clear No. 1 in Minnesota

Mattison is clear No. 1 in Minnesota... for now. From what I've read Mattison's metrics are average at best, and there's more competition than people realize.  Even if Mattison begins season as starter, no reason Vikings won't switch if he's not producing. Supposedly Ty Chandler is the best pass catcher on the team and some wonder if he isn't the starter by mid-season. 

ETA - Chandler isn't the only RB lottery ticket in MIN... Dewayne McBride - Viking's 7th rd pick out of UAB. Chandler probably has edge being a sophomore and pass catching skill.

[FrancieFootball 96]

18 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

Mattison is clear No. 1 in Minnesota... for now. From what I've read Mattison's metrics are average at best, and there's more competition than people realize.  Even if Mattison begins season as starter, no reason Vikings won't switch if he's not producing. Supposedly Ty Chandler is the best pass catcher on the team and some wonder if he isn't the starter by mid-season. 

I see his yard per carry weren't all that stellar the past two years.

[weepaws 3,160]

His rush hasn’t been impressive last two seasons, last season he only had two games in which he had ten plus touches.  Ty Chandler might not gain the rb1 work load, but he’s going to get a lot of work, I think he’s a real threat as the season rolls along in gaining a larger work load.  

I’m seeing his adp in .5 ppr late 5th, And is rb ranking very late rb2 early rb3.  

[Ray_T 751]

43 minutes ago, weepaws said:

His rush hasn’t been impressive last two seasons, last season he only had two games in which he had ten plus touches.  Ty Chandler might not gain the rb1 work load, but he’s going to get a lot of work, I think he’s a real threat as the season rolls along in gaining a larger work load.  

I’m seeing his adp in .5 ppr late 5th, And is rb ranking very late rb2 early rb3.  

well, the few times Cook got injured in 2020 and 2021 his stats were pretty solid and actually on a per game basis reasonably comparable to what Cook was doing at the time.

he didnt get a whole lot of play last year as Cook was healthy for once, but they saw him in practice every day.   a luxury none of us have.    If they felt he couldnt cut it, Cook would still be a viking.  I guarantee you.

hes the guy who made Cook Expendable and I, for one, feel like he may be a small step down from Cook in terms of skill but hes younger and seems to be a lot less injury prone.   most importantly, he costs a whole lost less as far as the cap hit goes.

I'd take Cooks numbers from last year subtract 100-200 yards from the total yards and knock off one or two TD and that's what I'd project for the guy.  

that number works out to a slightly higher projection than FFtoday has for him but I feel its a reasonable estimate.

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1 hour ago, weepaws said:

Ty Chandler might not gain the rb1 work load, but he’s going to get a lot of work, 

I agree. He's a damn good late round flyer. 

[weepaws 3,160]

1 hour ago, Ray_T said:

well, the few times Cook got injured in 2020 and 2021 his stats were pretty solid and actually on a per game basis reasonably comparable to what Cook was doing at the time.

he didnt get a whole lot of play last year as Cook was healthy for once, but they saw him in practice every day.   a luxury none of us have.    If they felt he couldnt cut it, Cook would still be a viking.  I guarantee you.

hes the guy who made Cook Expendable and I, for one, feel like he may be a small step down from Cook in terms of skill but hes younger and seems to be a lot less injury prone.   most importantly, he costs a whole lost less as far as the cap hit goes.

I'd take Cooks numbers from last year subtract 100-200 yards from the total yards and knock off one or two TD and that's what I'd project for the guy.  

that number works out to a slightly higher projection than FFtoday has for him but I feel its a reasonable estimate.

I think it’s more then a small step down, he was never a threat to take work from Cook.  I can’t remember but I think he had some injuries in his first two seasons, so if that’s true his durability as a full time rb1 hasn’t been tested yet imo. 

I don’t think Mattison had a lot to do with Cook not being a Viking. I think money, and again I read a story about beating up some woman, and threatening her while holding a gun at her, Ty Chandler is going to push Mattison for playing time, Mattison better be closer to Cook then I think he is, if not Chandler is going to get more playing time.  Now his avg was better his first seasons that’s true, also true it wasn’t nearly as good the last two seasons.  

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1 minute ago, weepaws said:

I think it’s more then a small step down, he was never a threat to take work from Cook.  I can’t remember but I think he had some injuries in his first two seasons, so if that’s true his durability as a full time rb1 hasn’t been tested yet imo. 

I don’t think Mattison had a lot to do with Cook not being a Viking. I think money, and again I read a story about beating up some woman, and threatening her while holding a gun at her, Ty Chandler is going to push Mattison for playing time, Mattison better be closer to Cook then I think he is, if not Chandler is going to get more playing time.  Now his avg was better his first seasons that’s true, also true it wasn’t nearly as good the last two seasons.  

well, as we get closer to the season we will get an idea based on reps and pre season reports.

Right now its all speculation, but at this point I do think its Mattison's job to lose.   As a 5th round pick, Chandler has a large  hill to climb to prove he deserves this starting job.   And his body of work at the pro level is small.

I think thats a tough prediction to make.   But make it if you feel strongly about it.   I'll be frank about this... I have not seen him play a whole lot.   He is a 5th round pick who got a taste in the last game of the regular season and thats all.

I think hes penciled in for backup duty unless Mattison craps the bed.

thats my opinion only.

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On 7/11/2023 at 11:54 PM, weepaws said:

Going with names I haven’t seen listed, and I make a mistake and do one that’s already listed, that’s just to bad.  

Gibson 

Singletary 

Charbonnet 

Bigsby

C Brown

P Strong 

Allgier

Not my rankings, but just some names that I like with their current ADP, many others I like have already been listed.  

Nice OP thanks.  

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[weepaws 3,160]

26 minutes ago, gcmmidwest said:

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K Toney injured his knee , he’s a tough one to trust, but if he can stay healthy lol, he could have wr2 upside imo.  

 

[DocNiner 69]

On 7/20/2023 at 10:41 AM, League Champion said:

Mixon had zero juice last season, he certainly looked like a running back on the decline. If Brown can come in and show what he did in college then it may be Mixon who's demoted to a 3rd down back. I'm high on Brown, especially in Dynasty 

Brown is definitely worth stashing on your bench in dynasty. We'll see how Mixon does early on.and if his off field issues are resolved. So Brown may not get a ton of opportunities early on unless he really impresses in training camp. I certainly think he could win the lead job next year and.nice to hang on to him if you can. I believe he'll show people he can carry the load.for a lead.back in '24.

[GobbleDog 989]

Tampa Bay RB Sean Tucker - pass catcher out of Syracuse, graded as 5th rd NFL pick - some thought higher had he played for a better school. Ultimately undrafted after missing combine due to injury. After the draft, Tampa quickly made him this year's first undrafted player to sign. Reportedly looked amazing at Syracuse and only has to beat out Chase Edmonds (not a problem). Some foresee R White in a rotation considering the most carries he's ever had was 148 in college. Tucker is currently RB 92, so he's free.

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On 7/21/2023 at 11:40 PM, FrancieFootball said:

Why is Mattison ranked so low on early rankings? He's the clear No. 1 in Minnesota and will be stepping up into a role that Dalvin Cook was a top fantasy pick just a year ago.

Seems painfully underrated to me.

Find it odd as well.  Wouldn’t necessarily want him as RB1, but as an RB2 in the 5th round that frees me up to take an RB1 & 3 WR’s, or Kelce & 2 WR’s…targeting him in that range quite a bit.

[GobbleDog 989]

LA Rams RB Zach Evans - TCU/Miss player was projected as a 3rd rounder, but slid to the 6th. Had fantastic college stats and is now Akers backup. Akers played well down the stretch last year, but he's on shakier ground than some think. If former achilles-injury Akers doesn't produce, Evans will get opportunities. Evans adp is RB 68, so nearly free.

[seafoam1 2,897]

17 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

LA Rams RB Zach Evans - TCU/Miss player was projected as a 3rd rou9nder, but slid to the 6th. Had fantastic college stats and is now Akers backup. Akers played well down the stretch last year, but he's on shakier ground than some think. If former acl-injury Akers doesn't produce, Evans will get opportunities. Evans adp is RB 68, so nearly free.

Akers will dominate.

[GobbleDog 989]

6 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Akers will dominate.

Zero-rb (1-rb) drafters like me rely on mid-round Rbs like Akers. Good chance he's on my team so I'm rooting for him.

But from what I hear, he isn't quite as entrenched as starter as I'd like.

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Jordan Mason in SF 

Effective end of game bruiser last year has a chance to unseat Elijah Mitchell

[weepaws 3,160]

On 7/23/2023 at 9:37 AM, gcmmidwest said:

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Today K Toney had surgery, I have too disagree with as it pertains To Toney, he’s no longer on my radar, S Moore is now a great great buy.  

God bless. 

[GobbleDog 989]

12 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Today K Toney had surgery, I have too disagree with as it pertains To Toney, he’s no longer on my radar, S Moore is now a great great buy. 

Unlike Rbs there's only 5 or so particular Wrs I like in later rounds.  Moore is one of them at about rd 12. And that was before I knew of Toney's surgery.

Apparently Toney hurt his knee in Sunday's practice, which turned out to be more than a tweak as first described. Now his status for week 1 is in question.  But heck his status for this entire season was already in question in my mind... Toney - sick talent, but just can't stay healthy. 

[weepaws 3,160]

On 7/23/2023 at 9:37 AM, gcmmidwest said:

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I was a little bit more on the fence as it pertain to K Toney, if he can simply stay healthy enough to play, he could have an outstanding season, but I’ve always like S Moore ADP.  Now I’m passing on Toney.  

[DocNiner 69]

On 7/19/2023 at 5:41 PM, GobbleDog said:

I see Chase Brown available at the end of most mocks, so he's basically free.

It's stunning the Bengals didn't draft any early RBs in one of the deepest RB classes in recent history.  Instead waiting til rd 5 taking Illinois' Chase Brown. Clearly Bengals don't think Mixon is done, despite not looking great last year. Maybe they know something we don't, undisclosed injury or whatever. Regardless, can't imagine 5th round Brown stealing starting job. Mixon will get his 10+ carries, goal-line work and receptions... Brown gets change of pace carries, but that won't amount to much. Might take a Mixon injury to become fantasy relevant.

In addition to Brown I'm keeping an eye on the Josh Jacobs situation. He's apparently left Las Vegas and doesn't intend on returning soon. Could the Raiders possibly go after Dalvin Cook or take a stab at Fournette? I think they have a guy in-house that could play a significant role if Jacobs doesn't settle his delema. RB ZAMIR WHITE. He's not a world beater but if ends up being the lead back this year I think he could put up decent numbers. He just hasn't gotten a.lot of carries so he'll have fresh legs. Keep an eye on this guy.

[weepaws 3,160]

Raiders are done if they don’t get a deal done with Jacobs.  

[GobbleDog 989]

4 hours ago, weepaws said:

Raiders are done if they don’t get a deal done with Jacobs.  

Raiders win/loss odds are 6.5.  They may be playing (tanking) for the #1 pick, regardless of Jacobs. 

[DocNiner 69]

On 7/26/2023 at 9:46 AM, weepaws said:

Raiders are done if they don’t get a deal done with Jacobs.  

I totally.agree.there if they don't sign Jacobs. If they don't then ZAMIR WHITE will be the lead back and.I think he could possibly produce 700 to 900 total yds. with 5 to 7 tds. 

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Deep…

Kenny McIntosh

Denny Prince 

 

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CAM AKERS

R. WHITE

Z. WHITE

MATTISON