Voltaire 5,280 Posted August 10, 2023 5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: A gay black man was murdered; it was an act of homophobia. It was a hate crime. The victim didn’t instigate it. Amazingly, you're not the only one who sees this; somehow every activist in New York agrees. I'd call this a sort of cultural Rorschach test, but in a Rorschach test, I can invariably re-look and see the vase or the young woman or thee bird or whatever it was that I didn't see it the first time. In this instance, I can't. Your position is utterly lost on me. "The victim didn't instigate" part is jawdroppingly amazing. How can this thought be conceived when the dude is storming through a gas station and goes through a guy trying to calm him down, in order to attack the kid who is running away from him? It's beyond words baffling. Incomprehensible. All I see is justifiable self defense. The "hate" part, maybe. Maybe. Clearly, something set him off but there's no audio. Whether it was "please move, your half hour dance recital is intimidating customers" or every insult imaginable, I don't know. We'll see if witness testimony converges or diverges. Even at it's worst, it doesn't justify what OShae'd done, which was put himself in a 'play stupid games win stupid prizes' situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,585 Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Voltaire said: Amazingly, you're not the only one who sees this; somehow every activist in New York agrees. I'd call this a sort of cultural Rorschach test, but in a Rorschach test, I can invariably re-look and see the vase or the young woman or thee bird or whatever it was that I didn't see it the first time. In this instance, I can't. Your position is utterly lost on me. "The victim didn't instigate" part is jawdroppingly amazing. How can this thought be conceived when the dude is storming through a gas station and goes through a guy trying to calm him down, in order to attack the kid who is running away from him? It's beyond words baffling. Incomprehensible. All I see is justifiable self defense. The "hate" part, maybe. Maybe. Clearly, something set him off but there's no audio. Whether it was "please move, your half hour dance recital is intimidating customers" or every insult imaginable, I don't know. We'll see if witness testimony converges or diverges. Even at it's worst, it doesn't justify what OShae'd done, which was put himself in a 'play stupid games win stupid prizes' situation. I’m not the only one who sees this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,226 Posted August 10, 2023 6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Kung Flu Yup. That was code for all his black followers to go after Asians. Cultists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,519 Posted August 10, 2023 I wonder at what point, will the leftists start calling the Muslim kid a White Supremacist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted August 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I wonder at what point, the leftists will call the Muslim kid a White Supremacist. The leftist need to calculate all the percentages to see of they have enough LGBTIQ+ people yet to see if they can throw Muslims under the bus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 10, 2023 Another BS story, here's my shocked face... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,280 Posted August 11, 2023 https://www.npr.org/2023/08/11/1192987300/oshae-sibley-stabbed-voguing-beyonce The MSM just lies and gaslights us endlessly with this. They desperately want the rampaging gay guy to be a sob story about gay persecution so they fabricate the facts whole cloth and spin a fake narrative. Note to leftoids, why don't you wait until a video emerges of Muslims running across a gas station to put a beatdown on retreating gay people to spread your bullsh1t? Then we can all agree that this is bad and you can score some actual sympathy points? Alas, seem to be fresh out of those for some reason, so just make one up. Lying to our faces when it's clear you are lying to us doesn't help your cause. If this is the best you can come up with in the cellphone camera era,, the only conclusion is this is not really a problem 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,006 Posted August 11, 2023 Just now, Voltaire said: https://www.npr.org/2023/08/11/1192987300/oshae-sibley-stabbed-voguing-beyonce The MSM just lies and gaslights us endlessly with this. They desperately want the rampaging gay guy to be a sob story about gay persecution so they fabricate the facts whole cloth and spin a fake narrative. Note to leftoids, why don't you wait until a video emerges of Muslims running across a gas station to put a beatdown on retreating gay people to spread your bullsh1t? Then we can all agree that this is bad and you can score some actual sympathy points? Alas, seem to be fresh out of those for some reason, so just make one up. Lying to our faces when it's clear you are lying to us doesn't help your cause. If this is the best you can come up with in the cellphone camera era,, the only conclusion is this is not really a problem When the racism supply can't meet the demand, they have to literally make shiat up out of thin air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,385 Posted August 11, 2023 Just so y'all know and don't waste your time, @The Real timschochet still thinks MIchael Brown was actually "hands up don't shoot"ing despite all the investigations that PROVED that wasn't the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,280 Posted August 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, Strike said: Just so y'all know and don't waste your time, @The Real timschochet still thinks MIchael Brown was actually "hands up don't shoot"ing despite all the investigations that PROVED that wasn't the case. :facepalm: Ugh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,913 Posted August 11, 2023 On 8/10/2023 at 2:37 AM, The Real timschochet said: Kung Flu And what an "attack" that was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 275 Posted August 11, 2023 On 8/10/2023 at 2:37 AM, The Real timschochet said: Kung Flu Another Trump attack. "In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have an Indian accent. I'm not joking." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,519 Posted August 11, 2023 Just now, Mike Hunt said: Another Trump attack. "In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have an Indian accent. I'm not joking." Is this like saying, we call white people white, because they're white? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,585 Posted August 11, 2023 35 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: Another Trump attack. "In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have an Indian accent. I'm not joking." Oh I’ve never read that. Thanks for the info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,585 Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Voltaire said: :facepalm: Ugh I never offered an opinion on the “Hands up don’t shoot” stuff. What I wrote at the time was that Michael Brown was a thug, but that it made no sense that, unarmed and running away from a cop, he would then change direction and charge the cop who was armed. I always had trouble buying into that argument; still do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted August 11, 2023 Not worried about the hundreds of black on black murders in Chicago though? C'mon, focus on the task at hand! This is why Dems aren't problem solvers. They only know how to create problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sagging Scrot 44 Posted August 11, 2023 Why do we still care? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted August 11, 2023 Another black murdered, sort of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,519 Posted August 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, League Champion said: Another black murdered, sort of Let's be honest, they did go too far on the beat down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,280 Posted August 12, 2023 14 hours ago, Sagging Scrot said: Why do we still care? Because the truth matters to both us as a society and this kid individually. The kids is getting railroaded into a hate crime murder by deceptive truth-allergic activists. If all you read is the newspaper accounts you're wanting to lynch this kid, but the truth is the exact opposite of what we're being told: all he did was defend himself from a beatdown. Allegedly he'd made homophobic slurs but A) the people who make the accusation are provable liars about what happened that day. B ) These people think that calling a man "he" is a homophobic slurs. On a grander scale, they tell us anti-gay violence is an out of control systemic problem. When it turns out that the prime example they use to prove this features an enraged gay guy sidestepping a person trying to intercede in order to chase down a fleeing teenager through a gas station, it proves the opposite. With video cameras in every pocket in America, outside many stores, street corners, and recent model luxury cars you'd think they would have plenty of evidence of such a thing... instead they have one example and it's a proven lie. Thankfully, video evidence exists that exonerates the kid in this situation. Then, it further erodes, if possible to further erode the credibility if the MSM, virtue signaling political figures, and delusional message board posters shown to lie about it in order to advance an agenda. "He was stabbed while dancing." "He was trying to de-escalate the situation." "It was a hate crime." Of course they also make no mention that the kid is a Muslim for other DEI reasons. Then they pivot into a tangent conflating about legislation preventing perverts from getting access to kids. And liberals eat it up. Then you show evidence that this is not what happened at all but liberals still eat it up anyways because they desperately want to believe the lie is true. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 275 Posted August 12, 2023 17 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Let's be honest, they did go too far on the beat down. How far would he have gone though? Have to make sure the perp is disabled. Plus it was a good life lesson for the perp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,308 Posted August 12, 2023 19 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Oh I’ve never read that. Thanks for the info. Awesome baiting. . Might want to look up who actually said that quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sagging Scrot 44 Posted August 12, 2023 18 hours ago, League Champion said: Another black murdered, sort of This is beautiful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,519 Posted August 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Mike Hunt said: How far would he have gone though? Have to make sure the perp is disabled. Plus it was a good life lesson for the perp. To my knowledge, he had no weapon. Making sure he was subdued should be enough. Now, if he did have a knife or gun, then I missed it and am ok with making sure he was not able to use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites