thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: He's going to be the Dems problem if he's elected the next POTUS. That would be not good. But again team red tie would have picked him out of a group of many. This isn’t on the Dems, it’s on you all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted August 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: He's going to be the Dems problem if he's elected the next POTUS. hahahahaha Do you cultist not realize that everyone but you hates him? Holy chit you people are retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,096 Posted August 27, 2023 Hush Hush, Wade, keep it down now - voices carry. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Hush Hush, Wade, keep it down now - voices carry. Wasn’t there a thread with that….huh it’s gone now. LOLOLOLOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 27, 2023 19 hours ago, Reality said: Just checking in, local liberals still don't care for the GOP candidates? I gotta tell yeah, this one really surprises me. I think your reading skills need work as it seems the consensus is that Christie, Pence and Hayley were decent. Probably Tim Scott too but his performance wasn’t great, and the two old dudes on the end have no shot but they seem alright too. HTH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 11:18 AM, iam90sbaby said: Anyone that thinks Vivek even has a slight chance at this is completely out of touch and maybe even slightly on the dumb side. NY and CA Republicans sure. No one else gives a sh!t about him. I've been out of town all week and just skimmed this thread, but I've seen you mention this several times. I presume you are saying that rural Merca won't vote for a turbin headed foreigner looking guy, and you said earlier that you would vote for Biden over him, even though he is clearly the most Trump-adjacent candidate. I don't disagree that his Indian heritage will prevent some people from voting for him, but it's sad to see a person like yourself take such a clearly racist position. I presume you would rule out Nikki Haley and Tim Scott as well for those reasons? Anyway, back on topic, I liked Vivek going into this but he's a little too Trumpy for me. Also the fact that Trump said good things about him means that Trump does NOT view him as competition, since Trump would never say something nice about a person he did consider competition. Vivek is a wildcard though, and he does seem to know how to play to a younger/social media crowd, so I'm interested to see how this plays out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: I think your reading skills need work as it seems the consensus is that Christie, Pence and Hayley were decent. Probably Tim Scott too but his performance wasn’t great, and the two old dudes on the end have no shot but they seem alright too. HTH wow, you sure love them warhawks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I've been out of town all week and just skimmed this thread, but I've seen you mention this several times. I presume you are saying that rural Merca won't vote for a turbin headed foreigner looking guy, and you said earlier that you would vote for Biden over him, even though he is clearly the most Trump-adjacent candidate. I don't disagree that his Indian heritage will prevent some people from voting for him, but it's sad to see a person like yourself take such a clearly racist position. I presume you would rule out Nikki Haley and Tim Scott as well for those reasons? Anyway, back on topic, I liked Vivek going into this but he's a little too Trumpy for me. Also the fact that Trump said good things about him means that Trump does NOT view him as competition, since Trump would never say something nice about a person he did consider competition. Vivek is a wildcard though, and he does seem to know how to play to a younger/social media crowd, so I'm interested to see how this plays out. he wouldn't vote for his cousin if he found out he had 1% non white Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,610 Posted August 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I've been out of town all week and just skimmed this thread, but I've seen you mention this several times. I presume you are saying that rural Merca won't vote for a turbin headed foreigner looking guy, and you said earlier that you would vote for Biden over him, even though he is clearly the most Trump-adjacent candidate. I don't disagree that his Indian heritage will prevent some people from voting for him, but it's sad to see a person like yourself take such a clearly racist position. I presume you would rule out Nikki Haley and Tim Scott as well for those reasons? Anyway, back on topic, I liked Vivek going into this but he's a little too Trumpy for me. Also the fact that Trump said good things about him means that Trump does NOT view him as competition, since Trump would never say something nice about a person he did consider competition. Vivek is a wildcard though, and he does seem to know how to play to a younger/social media crowd, so I'm interested to see how this plays out. Cool story, but am I wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: he wouldn't vote for his cousin if he found out he had 1% non white These are the people you associate with And no, I don’t like war hawks. In fact one of the positive things I say about Trump is he didn’t start a war. Of course, neither has anyone else since W, who was awful for that very reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted August 27, 2023 Just now, IGotWorms said: These are the people you associate with And no, I don’t like war hawks. In fact one of the positive things I say about Trump is he didn’t start a war. Of course, neither has anyone else since W, who was awful for that very reason obama started a war here in our own country with the whole idenity politics bullshlt. It set race relations back 50+ years. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted August 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: These are the people you associate with And no, I don’t like war hawks. In fact one of the positive things I say about Trump is he didn’t start a war. Of course, neither has anyone else since W, who was awful for that very reason Lol. Poor Libya. I guess overthrowing a government via force doesn’t rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted August 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: These are the people you associate with And no, I don’t like war hawks. In fact one of the positive things I say about Trump is he didn’t start a war. Of course, neither has anyone else since W, who was awful for that very reason Drone striking 7 countries at the same time isn’t an act of war? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, MDC said: Drone striking 7 countries at the same time isn’t an act of war? Obummer has a bad history on drone strikes and I’m not sure he did the best job inheriting W’s messes in Iraq and Afghanistan. But he did not start any wars, at least not where US ground troops and so forth were concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 27, 2023 45 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: These are the people you associate with And no, I don’t like war hawks. In fact one of the positive things I say about Trump is he didn’t start a war. Of course, neither has anyone else since W, who was awful for that very reason The people you associate with don't know what a woman is and allows men to compete against women, athletically. Party of science... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,096 Posted August 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, MDC said: Drone striking 7 countries at the same time isn’t an act of war? It has to be 8 or more countries at the same time to be considered an act of war. They were SO close, too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Reality said: The people you associate with don't know what a woman is and allows men to compete against women, athletically. Party of science... Not on here, and I don’t know those people IRL either. There are certainly crazies on the left too, but I’m not in their thrall. Can’t say the same for you guys, unfortunately Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,096 Posted August 27, 2023 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: Not on here, and I don’t know those people IRL either. There are certainly crazies on the left too, but I’m not in their thrall. Can’t say the same for you guys, unfortunately Yeah, it's the right whose enthralled with crazies. GTFO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 27, 2023 Vivek went down in Iowa in a poll done since debate DeSantis, Halley up a bit. Everyone else down a notch. Trump still with commanding lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Vivek went down in Iowa in a poll done since debate DeSantis, Halley up a bit. Everyone else down a notch. Trump still with commanding lead. Glad those Iowans aren’t buying the Vivek act. Haley would be a good choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted August 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Not on here, and I don’t know those people IRL either. There are certainly crazies on the left too, but I’m not in their thrall. Can’t say the same for you guys, unfortunately How many ukrainians that live in ukraine do you know IRL? You seem to want to suck their dlcks IRL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted August 27, 2023 Just now, IGotWorms said: Glad those Iowans aren’t buying the Vivek act. Haley would be a good choice. Oh look, Worms likes the biggest war hawk of the bunch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Glad those Iowans aren’t buying the Vivek act. Haley would be a good choice. They love Trump so not really sure why they didn’t love his act at the debate. Is only one poll so who knows. I did think Hailey did well at the debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh look, Worms likes the biggest war hawk of the bunch. Kind of weird that dogcows fella disappeared... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 27, 2023 48 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh look, Worms likes the biggest war hawk of the bunch. Because Haley supports nato and the Ukraine? Nah. You do realize NATO prevents conflict, right? Can’t attack a nato country because of the mutual defense pact. Now I suppose you’ll give me some Putin propaganda line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted August 27, 2023 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: Because Haley supports nato and the Ukraine? Nah. You do realize NATO prevents conflict, right? Can’t attack a nato country because of the mutual defense pact. Now I suppose you’ll give me some Putin propaganda line Yeah. focktard supports the US supportng the world before supporting it's own people. Such a great point of view. Don't put your mask on until you help others in need. Just die and then everyone who needs help dies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Yeah. focktard supports the US supportng the world before supporting it's own people. Such a great point of view. Don't put your mask on until you help others in need. Just die and then everyone who needs help dies. Blame America first. Time was, that was a liberal problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted August 27, 2023 36 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Because Haley supports nato and the Ukraine? Nah. You do realize NATO prevents conflict, right? Can’t attack a nato country because of the mutual defense pact. Now I suppose you’ll give me some Putin propaganda line Care for a list of countries that NATO has attacked, not precipitated by an attack on a NATO country? Just good old regime change? Just google nato operations or nato wars. Enjoy. Also, why we gotta pay for it all pretty much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Care for a list of countries that NATO has attacked, not precipitated by an attack on a NATO country? Just good old regime change? Just google nato operations or nato wars. Enjoy. Also, why we gotta pay for it all pretty much? I’m not too worried about Kosovo and such. It’s the Iraq and Afghanistan quagmires that we’ve got to avoid. I also don’t worry too much about paying for it. What the right used to understand is that it’s generally a good thing if most of the rest of the world is dependent on you. It helps us keep our spot on top and benefits us tremendously. Also it’s not like we’re going to slash the military budget, we do have to keep that strong in case Russia or China or whomever got ideas. Yes, there are burdens in leading NATO, but it has also made us the wealthiest country in the history of the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, IGotWorms said: These are the people you associate with And no, I don’t like war hawks. In fact one of the positive things I say about Trump is he didn’t start a war. Of course, neither has anyone else since W, who was awful for that very reason I don’t associate with him and Obama campaigned on stopping the endless wars but decided he’d rather blow up things and yes Obama administration joined the Syrian conflict in 2011. Backing their side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I don’t associate with him and Obama campaigned on stopping the endless wars but decided he’d rather blow up things and yes Obama administration joined the Syrian conflict in 2011. Backing their side Blowing up terrorists with drones is the way to go in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Blowing up terrorists with drones is the way to go in my book. what about non terrorists and kids, even americans and we classify parents speaking out at schools as terrorists, so just trust the govt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: what about non terrorists and kids, even americans and we classify parents speaking out at schools as terrorists, so just trust the govt Sadly sometimes are going to miss. I trust our soldiers and military generally however. Sounds like you want to let the bad hombres run around freely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Sadly sometimes are going to miss. I trust our soldiers and military generally however. Sounds like you want to let the bad hombres run around freely. randomly bombing a cafe is not going after bad hombres of course your ilk vilified Trump for killing Solemani so whatever dude, Washington Post, where I am sure you get most of your info, even called him Austere https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/28/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-washington-post-austere-headline/2483340001/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: randomly bombing a cafe is not going after bad hombres of course your ilk vilified Trump for killing Solemani so whatever dude, Washington Post, where I am sure you get most of your info, even called him Austere https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/28/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-washington-post-austere-headline/2483340001/ I like when terrorists get blown up by some dude sitting on a ship 700 miles away steering a drone right up their arse. I’m not aware of any random bombing we have done. I wouldn’t support that. But yeah I’m sure we have made mistakes. Again I’ll take a good IC and drone network over a war. If you know of a better way to do it you should inform the Dept of Defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I don’t associate with him and Obama campaigned on stopping the endless wars but decided he’d rather blow up things and yes Obama administration joined the Syrian conflict in 2011. Backing their side I didn’t love the drone strikes either but it’s not even remotely the same thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I didn’t love the drone strikes either but it’s not even remotely the same thing We put our troops on the ground in Syria. Under Obamas lead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted August 28, 2023 20 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yeah, it's the right whose enthralled with crazies. GTFO. It's mind-numbing isn't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted August 28, 2023 17 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: and Obama campaigned on stopping the endless wars but decided he’d rather blow up things Trump liked Obummer’s drone strikes so much he decided to double them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 28, 2023 43 minutes ago, MDC said: Trump liked Obummer’s drone strikes so much he decided to double them. did we invade any countries or overthrow any govt's under Trump? also, the generals in charge under Trump did their own things and lied, they should have all been court marshalled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites