It’s Trump AND Ramaswamy

[GutterBoy 2,899]

23 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

It’s incredible how they’ve embraced war

If the US was attacked, would you fight back and embrace war or bend over like a puzzy?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

If the US was attacked, would you fight back and embrace war or bend over like a puzzy?

If the IS was attacked by say I don’t know. Saudi Arabia. Would you embrace a war on someone like maybe Iraq?

all wars are lies. You know every war in our lifetime has been a lie. Yet you think the media govt war machine is telling you the truth about this war 

but hey keep funding meaningless wars and not caring about actual Americans. It’s the democrat way

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

If the IS was attacked by say I don’t know. Saudi Arabia. Would you embrace a war on someone like maybe Iraq?

all wars are lies. You know every war in our lifetime has been a lie. Yet you think the media govt war machine is telling you the truth about this war 

but hey keep funding meaningless wars and not caring about actual Americans. It’s the democrat way

Lol.  We've been in perpetual war since forever.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Lol.  We've been in perpetual war since forever.  

Yes and it’s why I voted for Clinton and Obama. Cause they were supposedly anti war.  Now Dems just are flat out pro war at least that is exposed 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

If the IS was attacked by say I don’t know. Saudi Arabia. Would you embrace a war on someone like maybe Iraq?

all wars are lies. You know every war in our lifetime has been a lie. Yet you think the media govt war machine is telling you the truth about this war 

but hey keep funding meaningless wars and not caring about actual Americans. It’s the democrat way

I seem to remember George Bush was a republican when he invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

I seem to remember George Bush was a republican when he invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.

Pro war propaganda machine. That’s what you support now. So if bush had a D you are proving you would support it 

im against all war. It’s that simple. You think the D funded wars are good and the R funded wars are bad 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Pro war propaganda machine. That’s what you support now. So if bush had a D you are proving you would support it 

im against all war. It’s that simple. You think the D funded wars are good and the R funded wars are bad 

I actually supported Bush during those years, not so much now.

But regardless, war is not a Democrat thing, and you look like a fool saying it.  You might want to stop.

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

40 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

DeSantis had a strong showing for sure. When you piss off liberals as much as he does you know he's stands for good things for this country. 

He will look better and better as the crowd thins. When only him and Vivek are left Vivek will get focked up.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

I actually supported Bush during those years, not so much now.

But regardless, war is not a Democrat thing, and you look like a fool saying it.  You might want to stop.

No war is a govt thing currently being less by D in charge. That’s my point. Once again I’m anti war and you are here rooting for it 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

No war is a govt thing currently being less by D in charge. That’s my point. Once again I’m anti war and you are here rooting for it 

Not "rooting" for war.  What I am "rooting" for is that Russia ends their invasion and the war stops and people stop dying.  What I support is peoples rights to defend themselves against evil and tyranny.

[seafoam1 3,025]

9 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

He will look better and better as the crowd thins. When only him and Vivek are left Vivek will get focked up.

I would put my money on DeSantis but I would love to see Trump back in the White House.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Not "rooting" for war.  What I am "rooting" for is that Russia ends their invasion and the war stops and people stop dying.  What I support is peoples rights to defend themselves against evil and tyranny.

Yet you’re in here defending Nikki Haley lying about the war. Good job 

do you support countries not having their govt overthrown by the United States?

[League Champion 1,911]

50 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

No one embraces war, it’s showing strength against a murderous tyrant who is threatening our interests and allies in Europe.

Biden handled is soo wrong. Everyone knew damn well in advance that Russia was going to invade Ukraine. Generals warned Biden. If Biden had stacked Poland and the surrounding region with infantry units prior to the invasion, then we aren't even talking about this. There's no way in hell that Putin would of invaded with an American/Coalition presence. He started sending infantry units over after the fact. Wrong move! Let's not herald Biden as some hero to innocent little Ukraine. 

He F'd up, bad. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

It’s incredible how they’ve embraced war

Democratic party is a shell of his former self. They embrace war, revile the working class, are in bed with big business, are anti free speech…. Disgusting group really.

[thegeneral 3,214]

5 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Biden handled is soo wrong. Everyone knew damn well in advance that Russia was going to invade Ukraine. Generals warned Biden. If Biden had stacked Poland and the surrounding region with infantry units prior to the invasion, then we aren't even talking about this. There's no way in hell that Putin would of invaded with an American/Coalition presence. He started sending infantry units over after the fact. Wrong move! Let's not herald Biden as some hero to innocent little Ukraine. 

He F'd up, bad. 

Perhaps. If we started loading up Poland with troops that would have been pretty nuts and I’m sure people would have lost their minds. That was certainly a “red line” at that time. We have crossed 30 of those since.

[League Champion 1,911]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Perhaps. If we started loading up Poland with troops that would have been pretty nuts and I’m sure people would have lost their minds. That was certainly a “red line” at that time. We have crossed 30 of those since.

No, Poland wanted that. Because they knew it was coming as well. What's the deterrent now? Is Biden going to send the 82 Airborne in to fight Russia at this point? Hell no. 

He just sent the 3rd Infantry Division to Poland. For those who don't know, that is an elite fighting unit. So what are they doing there? 

Biden waited too long, he F'd up. That's not opinion, that's fact and any expert would agree. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

14 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Biden handled is soo wrong. Everyone knew damn well in advance that Russia was going to invade Ukraine. Generals warned Biden. If Biden had stacked Poland and the surrounding region with infantry units prior to the invasion, then we aren't even talking about this. There's no way in hell that Putin would of invaded with an American/Coalition presence. He started sending infantry units over after the fact. Wrong move! Let's not herald Biden as some hero to innocent little Ukraine. 

He F'd up, bad. 

It’s also a good time to point out it has only been made obvious now how incompetent Russia’s forces are. 

[League Champion 1,911]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

It’s also a good time to point out it has only been made obvious now how incompetent Russia’s forces are. 

Then why are we there? 

[thegeneral 3,214]

27 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Then why are we there? 

To protect our interests. 

[League Champion 1,911]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

To protect our interests. 

No, why are "WE" there? Elite infantry units. 

As I stated before, nows not the time, Biden should of squashed it long ago. 

Are we there to flex or are we there for something else? It does nothing, if you send the 82nd in then it's certainly WW3. There's no way around it. Putin doesn't seem intimidated. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, League Champion said:

No, why are "WE" there? Elite infantry units. 

As I stated before, nows not the time, Biden should of squashed it long ago. 

Are we there to flex or are we there for something else? It does nothing, if you send the 82nd in then it's certainly WW3. There's no way around it. Putin doesn't seem intimidated. 

Not sure. Maybe flex or train. I’d guess both of those.

How would this have been squashed? If Putin isn’t intimidated by us having troops there now what good would having them in Poland have done? The whole thing is a game of chicken and we know much more now than we did before. It appears to be who is willing to last longer at this point - one side Ukraine, NATO, and mainly us…or Putin. 

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

I completely disagree with @League Champion and @RaiderHaters Revenge on the issue of Ukraine, but there’s no doubt that this view represents the base of the Republican Party. And that’s why Vivek had, IMO, such a good night. 
 

Listening to the pundits this morning, they’re dismissing Vivek as unserious, who was shown to be ridiculous last night. It’s like they’ve completely forgotten about Trump’s rise in 2015. They still don’t get it. 

[League Champion 1,911]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Not sure. Maybe flex or train. I’d guess both of those.

How would this have been squashed? If Putin isn’t intimidated by us having troops there now what good would having them in Poland have done? The whole thing is a game of chicken and we know much more now than we did before. It appears to be who is willing to last longer at this point - one side Ukraine, NATO, and mainly us…or Putin. 

Let's just say nothing changes, Ukraine vs Russia. Russia has one of the largest militaries in the World. They can keep this thing going for as long as they want, even if that means a slow dragged out 20+ year war. Ukraine doesn't have that luxury, they are thinning out and quickly. It was a scarce military to begin with. 

So what's the next step for Biden? Feeding Ukraine arms isn't going to do it, they need soldiers, bodies. Who's sending in troops? Someone will have to. 

So where do we go from here if you're Biden? 

[League Champion 1,911]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

completely disagree with @League Champion and @RaiderHaters Revenge on the issue of Ukraine,

Fair enough, how do you handle this if you're Biden? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I completely disagree with @League Champion and @RaiderHaters Revenge on the issue of Ukraine, but there’s no doubt that this view represents the base of the Republican Party. And that’s why Vivek had, IMO, such a good night. 
 

Listening to the pundits this morning, they’re dismissing Vivek as unserious, who was shown to be ridiculous last night. It’s like they’ve completely forgotten about Trump’s rise in 2015. They still don’t get it. 

if the talking heads you like are dismissing him he must be doing good

Ukraine we will never agree on, but it would be nice if you just admit the war machine lies us into all these wars

 

[thegeneral 3,214]

4 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Let's just say nothing changes, Ukraine vs Russia. Russia has one of the largest militaries in the World. They can keep this thing going for as long as they want, even if that means a slow dragged out 20+ year war. Ukraine doesn't have that luxury, they are thinning out and quickly. It was a scarce military to begin with. 

So what's the next step for Biden? Feeding Ukraine arms isn't going to do it, they need soldiers, bodies. Who's sending in troops? Someone will have to. 

So where do we go from here if you're Biden? 

Tough call. I believe ultimately Ukraine will give territory to Russia unless something drastically changes. Not sure if it will be worth it in the end for them and what they achieve here.

I wouldn’t want our troops fighting in there. But as long as Ukraine wants to keep testing out our bombs and tech blowing up Russian tanks that works for me. If a drones happen to find Putin’s various homes well that would be nice.

 

 

[League Champion 1,911]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Tough call. I believe ultimately Ukraine will give territory to Russia unless something drastically changes. Not sure if it will be worth it in the end for them and what they achieve here

I think that's the ultimate outcome as well but only if that's what Russia wants. Ukraine can't win off of small victories, Russia can. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, League Champion said:

I think that's the ultimate outcome as well but only if that's what Russia wants. Ukraine can't win off of small victories, Russia can. 

I won’t act like I follow this every day but I believe Russia is now dug in and getting them out will require a bunch more assets to have a realistic chance. 

I think Ukraine needs to realize the will to support them will wane and take that into their calculations.

If Russia decides to escalate they will also risk Ukraine support strengthening. 

Who the fock knows though.

I do disagree that Biden and his State Department have handle this poorly. They have done quite well navigating this in my view. A big win for them after botching Afghanistan ending. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Warhawk gonna Warhawk 

Vivek is the only anti war guy up there 

When did conservatives turn into pussies beholden to two-bit foreign autocrats?  

[League Champion 1,911]

12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

They have done quite well navigating this in my view. A big win for them after botching Afghanistan ending. 

Is it a win? 

If in 10 years if Russia claims Ukraine was it a win? 

[TimHauck 2,876]

3 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

DeSantis had a strong showing for sure.

lol

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, League Champion said:

Is it a win? 

If in 10 years if Russia claims Ukraine was it a win? 

There is probably not one answer for that.

Ukraine would be happy they aren’t all part of Russia I’d assume.

We have strengthened NATO added countries and assume Ukraine will be added as well.

Russian army has been exposed as third rate. 

Those are all positives.

The important thing to realize is this was caused by Russia. This is on them. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

No one embraces war, it’s showing strength against a murderous tyrant who is threatening our interests and allies in Europe.

WE started the war by supporting the Ukraine coup in 2014.  So the murderous leader is Obama who also bombed the hell out of Libya.  Obama has slaughtered millions at this point from nations that didnt attack us.   The only time people like you cared about that issue was iraq when bush was prez. 
 

dont you EVER TRY to take the high road on the war issue you murderous scum

[seafoam1 3,025]

14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

lol

So no reason behind your blind support of the pedocrats.  Nothing new. 

[HellToupee 1,776]

31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Listening to the pundits this morning, they’re dismissing Vivek as unserious, who was shown to be ridiculous last night. It’s like they’ve completely forgotten about Trump’s rise in 2015. They still don’t get it. 

It’s a nice confirmation about my feelings on him last night . It was Vivek vs the gop establishment and it makes sense the “pundits “ would carry the establishment water

[HellToupee 1,776]

18 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Russian army has been exposed as third rate.

Who has a better military than them besides us or course? A case can be made for China but don’t underestimate what this war has taught Russia and the war hardened experience. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Its still too early to call the VP because support for the ukraine war could collapse which can push the nominee to pick an antiwar running mate like rand paul. 
 

paul is simply a strong choice for trumps VP anyway as he pulls in independents. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

30 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

When did conservatives turn into pussies beholden to two-bit foreign autocrats?  

I am an anti-war anti-interventionist libertarian who can give a fock less about any other country when plenty of Americans struggle, it was the one thing I was majorly aligned with on the left, but it seems you guys forgot that at some point, prob after Obama decided he was gonna keep killing kids for oil

how am I beholden to a two-bit foreign autocrat?

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Biden is literally laundering billions and billions of dollars by funneling it into Ukraine and then stashing it in his pocket fock you liberals for supporting that killing people spilling blood to get rich

[IGotWorms 4,058]

42 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

WE started the war by supporting the Ukraine coup in 2014.  So the murderous leader is Obama who also bombed the hell out of Libya.  Obama has slaughtered millions at this point from nations that didnt attack us.   The only time people like you cared about that issue was iraq when bush was prez. 
 

dont you EVER TRY to take the high road on the war issue you murderous scum

What’s this “we” stuff?

I’m pretty sure you work for the Kremlin