Added value of a stack? Worth it or not?

[moball 0]

I am going to be drafting from the 2 spot and have run a number of mock drafts with the following 2 stacks showing as potentially being available. Both involve reaching for a player and I am curious whether you guys think the reach is worth the extra value.

The league is a 12 team, .5 PPR, one regular Flex spot with a very short bench of 4. Passing TDs are 6 pts. Previous drafts have been very chalky.

First scenario - Taking Kelce with the #2 pick in hopes of Mahomes being available with the #23. My first impression was that it would be rare for Mahomes to be there at #23 but it happened on 2 ESPN mock trials. WR in this scenario ended up as Tee Higgins and DeAndre Hopkins as WR 1 and 2.

Second scenario - Taking Chase with the #2 and then reaching for Burrow at the 3rd round pick #26. I have tried getting him in the 4th but he only lasted that long once in the many times i have run this scheme. Round 2 pick would be Olave, Metcalf, DeVonta, Ridley and then would scratch and claw for RBs in rounds 4 - 6.

My question is are the reaches involved with each (Kelce in scenario 1 and Burrow in 2) worth the added value of the stack? The KC stack would be worth 72 "extra" points for the season with current projections and the Cincy worth 56.

Or do you guys think that stacks don't carry extra value?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

[GobbleDog 816]

I've read there's a small correlation to winning teams that stacked. Theory being if a drafter nailed the Qb pick, then the stack (Wr or Te) probably did well too.  But stacking doesn't inherently make the team better, ya still have to nail the Qb pick.

[weepaws 2,460]

To early to draft a TEs or Qb.  Load up on WRs and Rbs, and win a title.  Good luck.  

[BufordT 371]

Don't know if stacking is value added or not but it's a good feeling when the QB and receiver connect on 1 or 2 TD's in a game.

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

Stacking is a good thing to do in certain cases- especially if you know you have a definitive connection like a Mahomes/Kelce tandem.

 

However, the reaching for players would prevent me from stacking in these instances

[Gepetto 988]

I don't think it's reaching as these players deserve to be drafted where you're stating you need to draft them. The stack does help win week in and week out as long as the stack is both elite players which Mahomes/Kelce and Burrow/Chase are.

[Ray_T 591]

3 hours ago, moball said:

I am going to be drafting from the 2 spot and have run a number of mock drafts with the following 2 stacks showing as potentially being available. Both involve reaching for a player and I am curious whether you guys think the reach is worth the extra value.

The league is a 12 team, .5 PPR, one regular Flex spot with a very short bench of 4. Passing TDs are 6 pts. Previous drafts have been very chalky.

First scenario - Taking Kelce with the #2 pick in hopes of Mahomes being available with the #23. My first impression was that it would be rare for Mahomes to be there at #23 but it happened on 2 ESPN mock trials. WR in this scenario ended up as Tee Higgins and DeAndre Hopkins as WR 1 and 2.

Second scenario - Taking Chase with the #2 and then reaching for Burrow at the 3rd round pick #26. I have tried getting him in the 4th but he only lasted that long once in the many times i have run this scheme. Round 2 pick would be Olave, Metcalf, DeVonta, Ridley and then would scratch and claw for RBs in rounds 4 - 6.

My question is are the reaches involved with each (Kelce in scenario 1 and Burrow in 2) worth the added value of the stack? The KC stack would be worth 72 "extra" points for the season with current projections and the Cincy worth 56.

Or do you guys think that stacks don't carry extra value?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

I think there is added value in a stack but also added risk.

essentially what you are doing is tying your teams fantasy fate to that of the team on which you are stacking players.   when that team does badly, so does your team.

so when stacking two players from KC... how much risk is there when KC goes 12-4?    unless they are really having their *ss handed to them in those 4 losses I think your stack is fine.

ditto for Chase/Burrow but now we are looking at a Burrow injury that may threaten your stack a bit. but I think he only misses a game or two tops so that may be fine.

its all a matter of how much risk you are willing to tolerate on your team I think

[Nomad99 408]

Take Kelce......if Homi is still there, grab him....I'f not, grab Hurts & then AJ....not the best stack but your QB could score as much as your WR.

[LunaTick 29]

Think the better approach is to assess the teams. 

Which ones are going to be getting offensive TD, say 3+ a game
How do they go about scoring their points (big play, power, etc).
How do they distribute the load. (do they have red zone specialists, do they feature a guy, etc)

I don't see QB as part of a Stack. 

Nor would I ever shy from having a QB with any other position.

Just as long as my assessment of the offense is on

I have done the handcuff and then played the stacked. 
Or
I have drafted a receiving duo and played them both

Just matters who is scoring and starting whom you think will score most. 

Btw, there is not such thing as canceling points either. Unless you decide to sit someone who otherwise should starts and be expected to score most. Then you have canceled you own ability to win. 

[polecatt 403]

Stacking doesn't add any direct value to your team unless the league scoring system specifically gives you bonuses for it.

That said, I don't think it's necessarily something you should go out of your way to do or avoid.

Mahomes and Kelce stack, that's probably gonna be a winner considering they're both the tops or top 3 at worst of their respective postions.

Something like a Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb stack, I wouldn't say that's a bad thing either.  It's just gonna be a double whammy for a game that Dak throws for 200 yard and 3 picks.

[Gratefulegg1973 253]

I've always loved stacking QB/WR, assuming they're good players.  

I play in 2 leagues that have a bizarre scoring system, and give huge bonuses the longer the TDs are.

I still think fondly of the days when my Brett Favre/Antonio Freeman, Jeff Garcia/TO, Jeff George/Andre Rison stacks would hit an 80 yard TD at 1:05pm, essentially locking up a win for me.  Aww, good times.  

[weepaws 2,460]

Montana/Rice that was good times.  

[kilroy69 994]

I am only stacking in cases where a specific wr or TE is a target hog on their team. Otherwise it is too hit and miss. 

[WhiteWonder 2,172]

stacking doesn't work any better or worse than simply picking the players you think will score the most points. A Kelce/Mahomes stack makes it FEEL like a stack is something when in actuality, you're just drafting the most likely top scoring TE and the QB who probably has the highest floor and best odds of being the top scoring QB. 

the stack itself will feel cool on weeks that offense is rolling and kind of suck on weeks that offense lays an egg. Stacking Kelce/Mahomes would probably feel good on a decent amount of weeks. But it's not really better or worse than drafting Kelce and... Burrow. The latter gives you less risk. 

I remember having Faulk, Bruce and Holt on most of my teams one year. Don't remember if I also had Warner. Had Moss, Culpepper and Robert Smith one season. 

[Ray_T 591]

There is a downside to stacking.....

what if Mahomes gets hurt?   you may lose 2 players due to one injury.

Sure, Kelce will play, but how many yards to you realistically expect him to produce with a backup at QB?

food for your thoughts.