Can anyone say how the whole "January 6 thing" was worse than the 2020 riots?

[seafoam1 3,025]

[Voltaire 5,316]

The cops killed a protester.

 

[seafoam1 3,025]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The cops killed a protester.

 

Ahhh.... That must be it.

[5-Points 3,530]

Well, when you take issue with wrongs perpetrated by the government, whether real or perceived, you're supposed to express that through acts of violence committed against innocent civilians rather than voicing your discontent with the people in power. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Jan 6 was during the day. If you attack a federal building at night there isn’t much that can be done. 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

Some dudes with flags basically overthrew the government until they just sort of gave up and went home. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

AOC got raped, right??

[seafoam1 3,025]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

AOC got raped, right??

Yep. But it was a remote rape. .

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Yep. But it was a remote rape. .

That’s right. It was real to her 

[seafoam1 3,025]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s right. It was real to her 

That's right. Charged taxpayers for PTSD therapy.. Fock. 

 

 

 

[Gepetto 1,368]

How come when the cops kill a criminal, not following commands, evading arrest, the cops go to prison; but when the US Capitol Security cop kills an unarmed woman, crickets?

[RLLD 4,230]

1) We know that the intent of the folks on January 6th was to intimidate and impede the process.  They effort crossed the line into an active attack on our government buildings. They completely crossed the line, and deserve to face the consuquences.

2) The earlier riots no doubt fed the January 6th outcome.  When you allow people to riot as was done during 2020, people see it, and then they also do it....not that hard to understand.

3) The entire BLM thing was based on a provably false premise....a complete lie.  Media and politicians exploited isolated instances, fomented rage and then applauded it when it happened.

4) The BLM riots should result in mass arrrests and complete repayment to those harmed. They protested based on a lie, and I do not care how pissed off they are.....you do not get to harm others.....period....

[jonmx 2,429]

48 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Well, when you take issue with wrongs perpetrated by the government, whether real or perceived, you're supposed to express that through acts of violence committed against innocent civilians rather than voicing your discontent with the people in power. 

 

The role of government is to protect government.  Screw private citizens and business people, they can burn.  Our country's founding resolution begins with 'We the government..."   people need to learn history.  Tyranny rules! 

[jonmx 2,429]

18 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

How come when the cops kill a criminal, not following commands, evading arrest, the cops go to prison; but when the US Capitol Security cop kills an unarmed woman, crickets?

Crickets?  He was crowned a national hero for defending a line of 50 heavily armed police offices from a single unarmed woman.  A national treasure that cop is.  

[jonmx 2,429]

12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

1) We know that the intent of the folks on January 6th was to intimidate and impede the process.  They effort crossed the line into an active attack on our government buildings. They completely crossed the line, and deserve to face the consuquences.

2) The earlier riots no doubt fed the January 6th outcome.  When you allow people to riot as was done during 2020, people see it, and then they also do it....not that hard to understand.

3) The entire BLM thing was based on a provably false premise....a complete lie.  Media and politicians exploited isolated instances, fomented rage and then applauded it when it happened.

4) The BLM riots should result in mass arrrests and complete repayment to those harmed. They protested based on a lie, and I do not care how pissed off they are.....you do not get to harm others.....period....

 

Why do we care more about a few politician's day being disrupted than about millions of people's livelihood being destroyed?  Certainly anyone who seriously harmed an officer or other person or destroyed a significant amount of property needs to be punished.  But that is less than 10 percent of the Jan. 6th convictions.  

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, jonmx said:

 

Why do we care more about politician's day being disrupted thst about millions of people's livelihood being destroyed?  Certainly anyone who seriously harmed an officer or other person or destroyed a significant amount of property needs to be punished.  But that is less than 10 percent of the Jan. 6th convictions.  

Because it is wrong to attempt to impede the process, that is not what we do here.  I get it that those people were pissed and felt justified....those morons out at the BLM riots thought this as well.  Both sets of morons were wrong.

People.....do not allow the politicians and their media propogansits to manipulate you.  C'mon, all of this is just driven by power hungry criminals and then the media....

Dont give them the satisfaction

[jonmx 2,429]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Because it is wrong to attempt to impede the process, that is not what we do here.  I get it that those people were pissed and felt justified....those morons out at the BLM riots thought this as well.  Both sets of morons were wrong.

People.....do not allow the politicians and their media propogansits to manipulate you.  C'mon, all of this is just driven by power hungry criminals and then the media....

Dont give them the satisfaction

They are public servants.  Our servants.  They are not superior beings.   The whole process is a symbolic rubber stamp which if not performed would not have made a shred of difference.  We need to stop this mindset that government is superior to the people they serve.  These school board bastards who look down at parents are disgusting.  Lawmakers who have no concern for an unarmed woman getting shot are disgusting.   The complete lack of defense against businesses being burnt, looted and destroyed is disgusting.  We have to stop viewing public servants as a privileged class.  That is not what our country is about.   The people's rights are above government.   That is what made this country great.  We are quickly headed back to the serfdom.

 

[BuckSwope 654]

To me, the reason the people were there in the first place on 1/6 was worse than the reason people were there for BLM protests.   Both were sold lies, but one legit wanted to stop a core democratic process in our country.   

Once the protesters crossed that line? Of course 1/6 pales in comparison to the riots over the summer of love in terms of destruction and casualties.  

[thegeneral 3,214]

I’d start with this:

Jan 6th was one guy’s doing from his butthurtness.

Summer riots were a collection of all kinds of things stemming from a cop killing a guy on video for 10 mins. Who are you pointing at to blame? 

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

How come when the cops kill a criminal, not following commands, evading arrest, the cops go to prison; but when the US Capitol Security cop kills an unarmed woman, crickets?

Which incident in your first part are you talking about?

[squistion 2,201]

An attempted coup to prevent the lawful transfer of power is not the same as riots in response to local police murdering George Floyd.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Just now, squistion said:

An attempted coup to prevent the lawful transfer of power is not the same as riots in response to local police murdering George Floyd.

Trump ordered the mostly peaceful protesters to disrupt the process at the Capitol?  Do you have any evidence of that? 

[seafoam1 3,025]

59 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump ordered the mostly peaceful protesters to disrupt the process at the Capitol?  Do you have any evidence of that? 

No they do not. 

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

1) We know that the intent of the folks on January 6th was to intimidate and impede the process.  They effort crossed the line into an active attack on our government buildings. They completely crossed the line, and deserve to face the consuquences.

2) The earlier riots no doubt fed the January 6th outcome.  When you allow people to riot as was done during 2020, people see it, and then they also do it....not that hard to understand.

3) The entire BLM thing was based on a provably false premise....a complete lie.  Media and politicians exploited isolated instances, fomented rage and then applauded it when it happened.

4) The BLM riots should result in mass arrrests and complete repayment to those harmed. They protested based on a lie, and I do not care how pissed off they are.....you do not get to harm others.....period....

What is the “complete lie” that Black Lives Matter is based on? 

[Gepetto 1,368]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Which incident in your first part are you talking about?

Any of them, but I understand what point you would make. My main point is was the Security officer that shot and killed that woman in the Capitol really correct to have shot to kill her?

[Gepetto 1,368]

I'm surprised they don't say Trump ordered the killing of George Floyd.

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

Just now, Gepetto said:

I'm surprised they don't say Trump ordered the killing of George Floyd.

Most conspiracy nuts these days are FOR Trump, not against him. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Any of them, but I understand what point you would make. My main point is was the Security officer that shot and killed that woman in the Capitol really correct to have shot to kill her?

In the situation I would give him the benefit of the doubt as I would all cops.

A crazed mob, windows busted open, there were three other cops who had just left, person crawling through busted window. If this were my office and this was going down I’d have zero issue with it.

Sad this lady got shot but she did everything wrong.

[jerryskids 6,799]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What is the “complete lie” that Black Lives Matter is based on? 

That there is a systemic problem of cops killing unarmed, complicit black suspects.  Is this a trick question?  

[jerryskids 6,799]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

1) We know that the intent of the folks on January 6th was to intimidate and impede the process.  They effort crossed the line into an active attack on our government buildings. They completely crossed the line, and deserve to face the consuquences.

2) The earlier riots no doubt fed the January 6th outcome.  When you allow people to riot as was done during 2020, people see it, and then they also do it....not that hard to understand.

3) The entire BLM thing was based on a provably false premise....a complete lie.  Media and politicians exploited isolated instances, fomented rage and then applauded it when it happened.

4) The BLM riots should result in mass arrrests and complete repayment to those harmed. They protested based on a lie, and I do not care how pissed off they are.....you do not get to harm others.....period....

The bolded is key, which is why the Leftists never discuss it.  The Summer of Love taught this country that if you are upset, you can loot, riot, fire bomb federal buildings, and take over sections of major cities for weeks/months.

Then when people on the other side walked through a barricade that the Capitol Police voluntarily moved, the Left responds with "OMG why would they do that?$#@!"

 

[jonmx 2,429]

19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What is the “complete lie” that Black Lives Matter is based on? 

That Trevon Martin was a young black child who was hunted down and murdered by a white supremist.  

The truth is Trevon ambushed him and started beatin his face in relentlessly and was killed in an act of self-defense. 

[BuckSwope 654]

13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What is the “complete lie” that Black Lives Matter is based on? 

There are a few things that contribute to this.   Some of the cases end up being justified and nothing like how it was presented.   But largely media runs with the "yet another black person gunned down" narrative and hammers that from jump, so as a result of that you have huge numbers of people who legit believe black people are being murdered without consequences, because they are black, all over the country.   There were polls being done showing Democrats believing 1000s and 1000s of blacks being murdered, instead of the accurate 220-250/year.  And that is shot to death without qualifier, so we can't pretend even all of those were unjust.  

We are not huge on stats and facts as a populace, so we are quite easily manipulated into believing this stuff.  

[seafoam1 3,025]

So, so far, nothing. That's what I thought. 

[BuckSwope 654]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The bolded is key, which is why the Leftists never discuss it.  The Summer of Love taught this country that if you are upset, you can loot, riot, fire bomb federal buildings, and take over sections of major cities for weeks/months.

Then when people on the other side walked through a barricade that the Capitol Police voluntarily moved, the Left responds with "OMG why would they do that?$#@!"

 

This is the dumbest, most childish of reactions.    If it wasn't so destructive, it would be funny how often the people of the "party of personal responsibility" trot out what amounts to "bbbbbbut the libs did it first!!".   FFS maybe be an adult and be better than the people you supposedly hate, not act like them?   

[seafoam1 3,025]

13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Most conspiracy nuts these days are FOR Trump, not against him. 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

George Floyd died from covid. 

[jerryskids 6,799]

7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

This is the dumbest, most childish of reactions.    If it wasn't so destructive, it would be funny how often the people of the "party of personal responsibility" trot out what amounts to "bbbbbbut the libs did it first!!".   FFS maybe be an adult and be better than the people you supposedly hate, not act like them?   

We're not talking about rocket surgeons on either side, Buck.  But along those lines, I'll try typing a little slower for you.  It's not "bbbbbut the libs did it first!!"  It's literally human nature of watching for months while violent actions were accepted if not lauded.  HTH

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump ordered the mostly peaceful protesters to disrupt the process at the Capitol?  Do you have any evidence of that? 

Yes.

[BuckSwope 654]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

We're not talking about rocket surgeons on either side, Buck.  But along those lines, I'll try typing a little slower for you.  It's not "bbbbbut the libs did it first!!"  It's literally human nature of watching for months while violent actions were accepted if not lauded.  HTH

But not by the right, correct?  That's the difference, and that's my point.   So after years of railing on them, like I said the tone of your post and many others I see comes off just as that - but the libs did it, how could you possibly expect us to react any differently?   Spare me.  I will stand by my statements earlier.    Feel free to continue to point one justifying the other, I will continue to call bs and point out the hypocrisy.  

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

18 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Yes.

No you don’t. Shut your stupid face for once.