MDC 7,131 Posted January 19, 2024 2023 was the world’s warmest year on record, by far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,098 Posted January 19, 2024 No, it's focking cold in the winter and hot in the summer. Like always. Hottest year in recorded history! Lol, that 1 cracks me up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,567 Posted January 19, 2024 1 hour ago, RLLD said: I do have an unhealthy pleasure when it comes to highlighting the stupidity, and arrogance, of the climate nazi church. Here is but one, of a host of focking morons who think the climate never changes, and when it does they arrogantly assume its "us" and we can further control it..... How frightening to see the climate change before our eyes – is this the last New York snow I’ll see? Because, well, there have never been undulations of snow fall in the past.....or have there... That didn't age well; I just texted my daughter (lives in Manhattan) and it is snowing again today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,131 Posted January 19, 2024 Snowing heavily in Philly this week for the first time in 3 years. ️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,804 Posted January 19, 2024 If it snows...It's climate change. If it doesn't snow, it's climate change. Hard to keep up with it all 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 19, 2024 Anyone notice a trend? Yeah, it's all over the place. Up and down for kver 100 years. Snowiest winters in Illinois: 1979 with 44.5 inches 1978 with 44.4 inches 1912 with 39.5 inches 2014 with 39.4 inches 1960 with 38.6 inches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 19, 2024 10 minutes ago, supermike80 said: If it snows...It's climate change. If it doesn't snow, it's climate change. Hard to keep up with it all Of course it's climate change, because that's what the climate has been doing since the beginning of the Earth. They tried the scary terms "Global Cooling" in the 70s, then "Global Warming" in the 2010s, then since both of those failed they went generic fear tactic with "Climate Change ". If the climate didn't change for 10 years or so, that would be worrisome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,567 Posted January 19, 2024 On the one hand I believe in being good stewards of the earth, and we do what we can to conserve in ways that matter (mostly conserve water in the desert). On the other hand, it's pretty clear to me that anthropogenic climate change (ACC) is a religion as much if not more so than science. I've heard it said that people who don't believe in God will find some laic thing to believe in; that humans need to believe in some higher cause. Interestingly, I googled and found data which strongly shows a (negative) correlation between importance of God and belief in ACC. Quote As importance of religion wanes, belief that climate change is caused by humans increases. Among Americans who say that religion is the most important thing in their lives, 39% say that climate change is caused by humans, compared with 56% of those who say religion is one among many important things, 65% who say religion is not as important, and 78% who say religion is not important. In contrast, 40% of Americans who say that religion is the most important thing in their lives say that climate change is mostly caused by natural patterns in the earth’s environment, compared with 33% of Americans who say religion is one among many important things, 26% who say religion is not as important, and 16% who say religion is not important. Finally, 20% of Americans who say that religion is the most important thing in their lives are more likely than those who say religion is one among many important things (10%), who say religion is not as important (8%), and who say religion is not important (5%) to say that there is no solid evidence that climate change is happening. https://www.prri.org/research/the-faith-factor-in-climate-change-how-religion-impacts-american-attitudes-on-climate-and-environmental-policy/ When the ACC church leaders show an interest in actually solving the problem on a significant scale (e.g., through nuclear, and natural gas as a stopgap) vs. punishing mankind, it will move more into the realm of science. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 19, 2024 Climate Change made Algore a very rich man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,567 Posted January 19, 2024 Sticking with the religion comparison, the eagerness of the ACC cult to say "the weather is [hot/cold/dry/wet/windy/calm] so therefore, climate change" reminds me of a religious zealot finding a bible quote to justify every action. That being said, the strategy of the cult leaders to change their message to "extreme weather" was brilliant; it channels that part of humans that wants to believe in the occult, things like horoscopes, palm reading, etc. Because it is very easy to believe that the weather has been a little more [insert above word] lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,051 Posted January 19, 2024 I will say that I sure hope you guys telling us that climate change isn't real, isn't a big deal, is just a new religion, etc. are proven correct. This is one of those things I'll be happy to be shown the error of my ways about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,238 Posted January 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, Fnord said: I will say that I sure hope you guys telling us that climate change isn't real, isn't a big deal, is just a new religion, etc. are proven correct. This is one of those things I'll be happy to be shown the error of my ways about. Nobody has said it isn’t real. But it’s headed by a bunch of tards who need the fear in order to cash a paycheck. Man adapts. Less people every year die of climate related issues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,688 Posted January 19, 2024 57 minutes ago, Fnord said: I will say that I sure hope you guys telling us that climate change isn't real, isn't a big deal, is just a new religion, etc. are proven correct. This is one of those things I'll be happy to be shown the error of my ways about. I am talking about man-made climate change. The earths climate has been changing for 5 billion years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,238 Posted January 19, 2024 43 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: I am talking about man-made climate change. The earths climate has been changing for 5 billion years. I knew it was a scam when they made co2 the target. Our planet is greener that it has been in recorded history and ppms are only 400 ish. You wanna solve world hunger pump more carbon into the atmosphere and plants will produce like crazy. Optimal plant carbon intake during flowering and fruiting is 900-1200 ppm. now we can do that clean preferably. No coal. But ng is amazing and so is fracking technology. Also graphene is a solution nobody discusses calling resident energy expert @MTSkiBum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Fnord said: I will say that I sure hope you guys telling us that climate change isn't real, isn't a big deal, is just a new religion, etc. are proven correct. This is one of those things I'll be happy to be shown the error of my ways about. Good. Let me help you. Show me that climate change is not the norm since the beginning of the planet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,202 Posted January 20, 2024 Yes and yes. We left Michigan on December 27th and winter hadn't arrived yet. Autumn kept holding on and holding on. I was thinking, "this is really mild for a Michigan December." I'd been in China for the 21 before that so it was quite a stark difference. Then the drive down to Florida the weather remained the same the whole time, it never got warmer. Our first three weeks in Florida has felt exactly the same as out last three weeks Michigan did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 20, 2024 17 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Yes and yes. We left Michigan on December 27th and winter hadn't arrived yet. Autumn kept holding on and holding on. I was thinking, "this is really mild for a Michigan December." I'd been in China for the 21 before that so it was quite a stark difference. Then the drive down to Florida the weather remained the same the whole time, it never got warmer. Our first three weeks in Florida has felt exactly the same as out last three weeks Michigan did. Yeah, weather changes. Can't believe you have never lived through that. Currently it's 12 degrees in Michigan and 70 in Florida. Everything gets back to the norm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,688 Posted January 20, 2024 18 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I knew it was a scam when they made co2 the target. Our planet is greener that it has been in recorded history and ppms are only 400 ish. You wanna solve world hunger pump more carbon into the atmosphere and plants will produce like crazy. Optimal plant carbon intake during flowering and fruiting is 900-1200 ppm. now we can do that clean preferably. No coal. But ng is amazing and so is fracking technology. Also graphene is a solution nobody discusses calling resident energy expert @MTSkiBum Carbon dioxide makes up 0.04% of the world’s atmosphere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,238 Posted January 20, 2024 14 hours ago, seafoam1 said: Yeah, weather changes. Can't believe you have never lived through that. Currently it's 12 degrees in Michigan and 70 in Florida. Everything gets back to the norm. another thing to factor is to polar shift that is currently ongoing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 20, 2024 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: another thing to factor is to polar shift that is currently ongoing Right. And that isn't to be related to the "climate change" hysteria that has spread across the globe by the likes of John Kerry. When solar radiation and cosmic rays threaten to penetrate Earth’s surface, a vast magnetic field generated within Earth’s outer core safeguards the planet by deflecting harmful space energy. This is known as the magnetosphere. Scientists know that the internal forces that generate Earth’s magnetic field can change and that the strength of the field oscillates over time. This can lead to gradual shifts in the intensity and location of Earth’s magnetic north and south poles and even reversals where Earth’s magnetic poles trade places. But are these geomagnetic events responsible for extreme weather, extinction, and even disasters? Claims that Earth’s magnetic field is responsible for climate change are rampant online, but scientists say the theory has no merit. “At this time there aren't any credible mechanisms that could make it a possibility,” says Gavin Schmidt, a climatologist and director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. “It's not that we're ruling out magnetic effects on climate without thinking about it, we collectively have thought about it, and it's been found wanting.” https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/earths-shifting-magnetic-fields-arent-causing-climate-change Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,238 Posted January 20, 2024 19 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Right. And that isn't to be related to the "climate change" hysteria that has spread across the globe by the likes of John Kerry. When solar radiation and cosmic rays threaten to penetrate Earth’s surface, a vast magnetic field generated within Earth’s outer core safeguards the planet by deflecting harmful space energy. This is known as the magnetosphere. Scientists know that the internal forces that generate Earth’s magnetic field can change and that the strength of the field oscillates over time. This can lead to gradual shifts in the intensity and location of Earth’s magnetic north and south poles and even reversals where Earth’s magnetic poles trade places. But are these geomagnetic events responsible for extreme weather, extinction, and even disasters? Claims that Earth’s magnetic field is responsible for climate change are rampant online, but scientists say the theory has no merit. “At this time there aren't any credible mechanisms that could make it a possibility,” says Gavin Schmidt, a climatologist and director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. “It's not that we're ruling out magnetic effects on climate without thinking about it, we collectively have thought about it, and it's been found wanting.” https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/earths-shifting-magnetic-fields-arent-causing-climate-change no way to monetize the shifting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted January 20, 2024 23 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: no way to monetize the shifting Well, that's what lies are for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites