squistion 1,990 Posted December 15, 2023 13 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Enough to open the inquiry. Nope and even some Republicans are saying there is no there there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,043 Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, squistion said: Nope and even some Republicans are saying there is no there there. Nope what? It’s been opened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted December 15, 2023 It's their only move, the protections afforded Biden are considerable, it should open up the tool box a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,990 Posted December 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Nope what? It’s been opened. It has been opened but some Republicans are saying they have seen any proof to justify it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted December 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, squistion said: It has been opened but some Republicans are saying they have seen any proof to justify it. Do in your mind....political affiliation is some measure of integrity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,851 Posted December 15, 2023 Did they get the big guy yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,043 Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, squistion said: It has been opened but some Republicans are saying they have seen any proof to justify it. Proof isn’t the requirement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Proof isn’t the requirement. Nope. Having 218 members of a party in the House seems to be it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted December 15, 2023 4 hours ago, League Champion said: But we have the ability to see through their false narratives and BS You won't hear them criticize one of theirs ever! Well they do. As soon as one of them takes on step off the plantation, they pounce on their own. A leftist only maintains complete immunity while they are firmly on the plantation of big government authoritarianism. It is much like any authoritarian organization from the mob to the Nazis, it demands complete loyalty to maintain a corrupt and evil power structure. I honestly do not know how seemingly intelligent people get sucked into modern leftist authoritarian ideology. I understand how idiots like squisy does, but there are a few who get sucked in who can actually put together a modestly intelligent point on rare occasions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,104 Posted December 15, 2023 4 hours ago, League Champion said: But we have the ability to see through their false narratives and BS You won't hear them criticize one of theirs ever! It's much more likely you'll hear a lib criticize one of their own than you will a Republican criticize Trump. Even those like you that claim not to like him. I think the impeachment inquiry is 98% cooked up BS retribution for two extremely deserved impeachments of your favorite idol. But now that it's open, have at it! If investigations come up with real, substantial evidence, impeach Biden and I'll support his removal from office. He's an average POTUS at best, and is only manning the oval office because his predecessor is a corrupt, ignorant, authoritarian narcissist that is clueless about what real leadership means. A Republican president is a near lock in 24 if you nominate someone else. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 Cormer afraid to go on Fox and Friends Because of Steve Doocey 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted December 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fnord said: It's much more likely you'll hear a lib criticize one of their own than you will a Republican criticize Trump. Even those like you that claim not to like him. I think the impeachment inquiry is 98% cooked up BS retribution for two extremely deserved impeachments of your favorite idol. But now that it's open, have at it! If investigations come up with real, substantial evidence, impeach Biden and I'll support his removal from office. He's an average POTUS at best, and is only manning the oval office because his predecessor is a corrupt, ignorant, authoritarian narcissist that is clueless about what real leadership means. A Republican president is a near lock in 24 if you nominate someone else. I think it could be true that you might have some lack of awareness due to perhaps a slight bias. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think it could be true that you might have some lack of awareness due to perhaps a slight bias. What do you think the chances would be of say Obama getting the nom in 2012 if he had lost and the Black Panthers rioted at the WH? I’m going negative 900 percent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,104 Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, jonmx said: Well they do. As soon as one of them takes on step off the plantation, they pounce on their own. A leftist only maintains complete immunity while they are firmly on the plantation of big government authoritarianism. It is much like any authoritarian organization from the mob to the Nazis, it demands complete loyalty to maintain a corrupt and evil power structure. I honestly do not know how seemingly intelligent people get sucked into modern leftist authoritarian ideology. I understand how idiots like squisy does, but there are a few who get sucked in who can actually put together a modestly intelligent point on rare occasions. Been a long damn time since I've seen anything modestly intelligent come from your keyboard. If you think you're a patriot but support the guy who wants to suspend Posse Comitatus and fill his next administration with fellow fascists whose entire aim is to hire loyalists to find ways to circumvent established laws and norms just to get his way., you're a fuking dangerous moron. I already know you're dumb. How dangerous are you? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,104 Posted December 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think it could be true that you might have some lack of awareness due to perhaps a slight bias. Try me. I'm not a Democrat. Biden can go to hell. I DGAF who the POTUS even is at this point. I only care that it's not Trump. I love freedom. Trump’s last administration was a complete shlt show. His next, if it happens, may destroy this nation, IMO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,043 Posted December 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Fnord said: Been a long damn time since I've seen anything modestly intelligent come from your keyboard. If you think you're a patriot but support the guy who wants to suspend Posse Comitatus and fill his next administration with fellow fascists whose entire aim is to hire loyalists to find ways to circumvent established laws and norms just to get his way., you're a fuking dangerous moron. I already know you're dumb. How dangerous are you? Who do you think Trump assassinates first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,043 Posted December 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fnord said: Try me. I'm not a Democrat. Biden can go to hell. I DGAF who the POTUS even is at this point. I only care that it's not Trump. I love freedom. Trump’s last administration was a complete shlt show. His next, if it happens, may destroy this nation, IMO. Where do you think he’ll put the camps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Who do you think Trump assassinates first? The dignity of the GOP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted December 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, thegeneral said: What do you think the chances would be of say Obama getting the nom in 2012 if he had lost and the Black Panthers rioted at the WH? I’m going negative 900 percent I am not following your logic here...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted December 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, Fnord said: Try me. I'm not a Democrat. Biden can go to hell. I DGAF who the POTUS even is at this point. I only care that it's not Trump. I love freedom. Trump’s last administration was a complete shlt show. His next, if it happens, may destroy this nation, IMO. That is fair. I was delighted with the Trump policies, even though I find him distasteful as a person. I think Biden is OK, but having met him in person he might not be that "good guy" he sells himself as being, just saying..... Now Biden is a better politician......well.....he used to be..... Trump is not a good politician. So let Biden win again, by all means, just please put the Trump policies back into effect so things can improve. I do not need Trump, just the better policies.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am not following your logic here...... This very sizable portion of the GOP who will not leave Trump is as close to a political cult as we have seen in our lifetime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,825 Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: This very sizable portion of the GOP who will not leave Trump is as close to a political cult as we have seen in our lifetime. So damaged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: So damaged. He’s got your vote. You are brain washed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,043 Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: This very sizable portion of the GOP who will not leave Trump is as close to a political cult as we have seen in our lifetime. At least 75 million and counting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: At least 75 million and counting. A sock puppet could get this after getting the nom. Yet you all select this lunatic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted December 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, thegeneral said: This very sizable portion of the GOP who will not leave Trump is as close to a political cult as we have seen in our lifetime. I think this is true, as is the case on the Democrat side. I think this is typically the case, though I think with the emergence of Trump we observed this really take hold. And so now the fight is for the middle in a much more emphatic sense than it ever has been. The numbers of zealots are more than they have ever been for each party, and now that middle area is much smaller, so there needs to be considerable energy thrown to sway them. IMHO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,825 Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: At least 75 million and counting. Now you're in a "cult" if you want good policy people voted into government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,043 Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: A sock puppet could get this after getting the nom. Yet you all select this lunatic Except no one else did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted December 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, Fnord said: Been a long damn time since I've seen anything modestly intelligent come from your keyboard. If you think you're a patriot but support the guy who wants to suspend Posse Comitatus and fill his next administration with fellow fascists whose entire aim is to hire loyalists to find ways to circumvent established laws and norms just to get his way., you're a fuking dangerous moron. I already know you're dumb. How dangerous are you? Lol, you are the dumbfuk. First you base your argument on some leftist lunatic's opinion and treat that as an absolute fact. Secondly, that act is obsolete. We already have numerous standing armies as part of the federal government such as the FBI, CIA, ATF, IRS who currently have their guns pointed at US citizens, many of them for just exercising their Constitutional rights. Our government has been drifting towards fascism for decades and the current regime has their foot on the peddle moving us faster than ever towards authoritarianism. And all you ever do is keep your mouth firmly planted on their fascist buttholes. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted December 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, thegeneral said: This very sizable portion of the GOP who will not leave Trump is as close to a political cult as we have seen in our lifetime. Not even close. If you ever want to hear the most incoherent angry ramblings in our nation's history, listen to the cult of anti-Trumpers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think this is true, as is the case on the Democrat side. I think this is typically the case, though I think with the emergence of Trump we observed this really take hold. And so now the fight is for the middle in a much more emphatic sense than it ever has been. The numbers of zealots are more than they have ever been for each party, and now that middle area is much smaller, so there needs to be considerable energy thrown to sway them. IMHO This isn’t the case which was my point. See the Obama question from before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Except no one else did. Biden got more votes. That Trump is your nom again is the crazy part. You all could pick anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: This isn’t the case which was my point. See the Obama question from before. Oh but it is the case. Its not great, I am not much of a fan of the zealotry. The current polling supports this notion of the middle being much more valuable than it ever has been. Recently, that middle has apparently grown just a little...but only because of the horrible economy. Now, there is something else, the policies around abortion are big....and if the Democrats weild that well enough, it can negate many things. The question is whether or not it can negate the economic factors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,825 Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Biden got more votes. Between the hours of 12 midnight to 4am after election day when they shut down, closed up and locked the doors. And then every vote counted at that time was for creepy joe, the world's most lovable child fondler. No, nothing suspicious there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Between the hours of 12 midnight to 4am after election day when they shut down, closed up and locked the doors. And then every vote counted at that time was for creepy joe, the world's most lovable child fondler. No, nothing suspicious there. Full tinhat I see. Shocker! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, RLLD said: Oh but it is the case. Its not great, I am not much of a fan of the zealotry. The current polling supports this notion of the middle being much more valuable than it ever has been. Recently, that middle has apparently grown just a little...but only because of the horrible economy. Now, there is something else, the policies around abortion are big....and if the Democrats weild that well enough, it can negate many things. The question is whether or not it can negate the economic factors. Once again. Obama has a bunch of Black Panthers riot at the US Capitol after months of crying. He continues this for 3 years. He wouldn’t be a prominent figure in the Dem Party. For whatever reason Trump is. It’s weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,825 Posted December 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Full tinhat I see. Shocker! Does that foil you wear cover up your acne? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, thegeneral said: Once again. Obama has a bunch of Black Panthers riot at the US Capitol after months of crying. He continues this for 3 years. He wouldn’t be a prominent figure in the Dem Party. For whatever reason Trump is. It’s weird. Obama had X. Bush had Y, CLinton had Z....on and on.....I leave it to you to care about things that are not relevant to today.....I find little value in that. Trump elicited strong feelings among people who felt they were not being listened to, who felt that the world was pressing on them.....he capitalized on it.....and seemingly he created a strong cadre of zealots who remain fiercly loyal. In response liberals crated their own, less so much out of loyalty to a person so much as the party, and perhaps mostly out of simple opposition to Trump. Its strange all around. Trumps policies produced good results, the kind of thing we all would welcome, but their allowance for personal feelings to ignore this is remarkable...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,020 Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Obama had X. Bush had Y, CLinton had Z....on and on.....I leave it to you to care about things that are not relevant to today.....I find little value in that. Trump elicited strong feelings among people who felt they were not being listened to, who felt that the world was pressing on them.....he capitalized on it.....and seemingly he created a strong cadre of zealots who remain fiercly loyal. In response liberals crated their own, less so much out of loyalty to a person so much as the party, and perhaps mostly out of simple opposition to Trump. Its strange all around. Trumps policies produced good results, the kind of thing we all would welcome, but their allowance for personal feelings to ignore this is remarkable...... You don’t care about Trump’s act to stay in power? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,156 Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: You don’t care about Trump’s act to stay in power? Trump's act to stay in power does not bother me. I think it is being overblown considerably. So rather than focus on that I prefer to focus on what impacts me, my community and the nation in general. These things are all justr distractions and are fed to us to manipulate us. I am disinclined to this, and in fact i find it more than just annoying....it implies that they think we are stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites