The Psychic Observer 498 Posted December 9, 2023 Texas attorney general asks state supreme court to stop woman from getting abortion Kate Cox’s baby was diagnosed with full trisomy 18 and her baby may not survive until birth Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has asked the state’s supreme court to stop a Dallas woman from getting an abortion. Mr Paxton’s office petitioned the court just before midnight on Thursday, after a judge in Travis County granted a temporary restraining order allowing Kate Cox to terminate her nonviable pregnancy. Risking the health and future child bearing ability of a mother to make political points. Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,086 Posted December 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: Texas attorney general asks state supreme court to stop woman from getting abortion Kate Cox’s baby was diagnosed with full trisomy 18 and her baby may not survive until birth Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has asked the state’s supreme court to stop a Dallas woman from getting an abortion. Mr Paxton’s office petitioned the court just before midnight on Thursday, after a judge in Travis County granted a temporary restraining order allowing Kate Cox to terminate her nonviable pregnancy. Risking the health and future child bearing ability of a mother to make political points. Sad. Translation: My potentially disabled baby isn't dying fast enough. Please induce labor and delivery now so that baby can die on my preferred schedule instead of letting labor occur naturally a few weeks later and possibly result in a living, imperfect child. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 498 Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Translation: My potentially disabled baby isn't dying fast enough. Please induce labor and delivery now so that baby can die on my preferred schedule instead of letting labor occur naturally a few weeks later and possibly result in a living, imperfect child. Why would you want this woman to risk her life to deliver a baby that has zero chance of having any kind of meaningful life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,086 Posted December 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: Why would you want this woman to risk her life to deliver a baby that has zero chance of having any kind of meaningful life? She can go to California they will gladly murder the baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,475 Posted December 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Translation: My potentially disabled baby isn't dying fast enough. Please induce labor and delivery now so that baby can die on my preferred schedule instead of letting labor occur naturally a few weeks later and possibly result in a living, imperfect child. I find your position to be inhumane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,086 Posted December 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I find your position to be inhumane. Sure thing baby killer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,161 Posted December 9, 2023 I had no idea what full trisomy 18 was. I doubt many here did either so I provide a quick reference link. Edwards Syndrome (Trisomy 18): Genetic Condition, Symptoms & Outlook (clevelandclinic.org) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,086 Posted December 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I had no idea what full trisomy 18 was. I doubt many here did either so I provide a quick reference link. Edwards Syndrome (Trisomy 18): Genetic Condition, Symptoms & Outlook (clevelandclinic.org) I missed the part where they say the mother may die if carrying the child to term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,145 Posted December 9, 2023 As is known, i support abortion, and this woman should have the right to terminate this pregnancy, period, no nuance or context needed..... Maybe Hamas could help her, I hear they specialize in this stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 498 Posted December 9, 2023 54 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: I missed the part where they say the mother may die if carrying the child to term. Several doctors have advised Cox that there is "virtually no chance" her baby will survive and that carrying the pregnancy to term would make it less likely that she will be able to carry another child in the future, according to the complaint. Cox's pregnancy puts her health and fertility at risk for such problems as including gestational hypertension, gestational diabetes, uterine rupture from Caesarean section and post-operative infections Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted December 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: I missed the part where they say the mother may die if carrying the child to term. also may affect her ability to get pregnant in fyootcha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,399 Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: She can go to California they will gladly murder the baby. She can come to my house. I'll kick her in the stomach a few times for a hundo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,955 Posted December 9, 2023 Yeeesh. This will go well with voters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,158 Posted December 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: Translation: My potentially disabled baby isn't dying fast enough. Please induce labor and delivery now so that baby can die on my preferred schedule instead of letting labor occur naturally a few weeks later and possibly result in a living, imperfect child. Amen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted December 9, 2023 wow. Republicans really are sick, twisted focks when it comes to a woman potentially having serious issues delivering a baby. Common sense must prevail. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said: I missed the part where they say the mother may die if carrying the child to term. Dude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,233 Posted December 9, 2023 This is the problem with the Republican party. If they just came up with reasonable stances on these types of things they'd be in pretty good shape. Let's say 4 months abort for any reason, up to 6 months for certain medical conditions, and later in extreme situations like this. There is no way they should be dying on this hill. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Strike said: This is the problem with the Republican party. If they just came up with reasonable stances on these types of things they'd be in pretty good shape. Let's say 4 months abort for any reason, up to 6 months for certain medical conditions, and later in extreme situations like this. There is no way they should be dying on this hill. nailed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,399 Posted December 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, edjr said: wow. Republicans really are sick, twisted focks when it comes to a woman potentially having serious issues delivering a baby. Common sense must prevail. Yeah, if ever there was an instance where an abortion is the best solution, this would be it. Why force somebody to give birth to a life-long burden on the system? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, 5-Points said: Yeah, if ever there was an instance where an abortion is the best solution, this would be it. Why force somebody to give birth to a life-long burden on the system? I am sure someone tried to convince peefoam’s parents the same thing. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,086 Posted December 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Strike said: This is the problem with the Republican party. If they just came up with reasonable stances on these types of things they'd be in pretty good shape. Let's say 4 months abort for any reason, up to 6 months for certain medical conditions, and later in extreme situations like this. There is no way they should be dying on this hill. Sure but it’s still murder 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,475 Posted December 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Strike said: This is the problem with the Republican party. If they just came up with reasonable stances on these types of things they'd be in pretty good shape. Let's say 4 months abort for any reason, up to 6 months for certain medical conditions, and later in extreme situations like this. There is no way they should be dying on this hill. Here’s the problem: the reality is that something like 99.9% of all late term abortions are for stories like this one, or hydrocephalus, etc. But several years ago the pro-life folks realized that if they could convince the public that late term abortions were being performed for convenience purposes, it would be a wedge in which they could turn a larger percentage of people against abortion period and make them look like the reasonable folks, versus liberals who could be painted as the extremists, To some degree this worked. But conservatives became wedded to this argument and they’re still making it. And this is the result. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,475 Posted December 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, Strike said: This is the problem with the Republican party. If they just came up with reasonable stances on these types of things they'd be in pretty good shape. Let's say 4 months abort for any reason, up to 6 months for certain medical conditions, and later in extreme situations like this. There is no way they should be dying on this hill. And by the way, what you’re proposing here sure sounds a lot like the original Roe vs Wade decision. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 9, 2023 59 minutes ago, 5-Points said: She can come to my house. I'll kick her in the stomach a few times for a hundo. This must be some of that "humor" you were talking about in the other thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,868 Posted December 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, Strike said: This is the problem with the Republican party. If they just came up with reasonable stances on these types of things they'd be in pretty good shape. Let's say 4 months abort for any reason, up to 6 months for certain medical conditions, and later in extreme situations like this. There is no way they should be dying on this hill. Agreed. This is one of those exceptions. The only worry I have is that when do allow this then it gets abused by liberal doctors and suddenly EVERY woman who wants an abortion will have her pregnancy classified as some "exception". I know, sounds absurd, right? We should trust doctors, right? Normally I would but we now have doctors that will do or say anything to promote The Message over everything else (common sense, logic, facts, etc...). We literally have "doctors" that are recommending children be given drugs and cut things off to change their gender. It's this type of absurd lunacy that we now have to contend with and consider from supposed "professionals". So, yeah, if we do have exceptions then we'll need very strong gates to ensure that when a doctor that classifies one of these exceptions that we have air tight corroborating evidence. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, Strike said: This is the problem with the Republican party. If they just came up with reasonable stances on these types of things they'd be in pretty good shape. Let's say 4 months abort for any reason, up to 6 months for certain medical conditions, and later in extreme situations like this. There is no way they should be dying on this hill. It was completely predictable though. As a group, they don't seem to be interest in the bolded on this topic and showed their hands before even RvW was overturned. They couldn't wait to line up for bans or extreme positions like this. They are just like the left - they bend to the will of the extremes of the party, and this particular issue seems to really be costing them at the polls. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,246 Posted December 9, 2023 I am not for aborting kids because they have a disability but if youre going to, do it before 20 weeks also the title to this thread is an outright clickbait 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,399 Posted December 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: This must be some of that "humor" you were talking about in the other thread. See how easy it is to sense when it's there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted December 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: It was completely predictable though. As a group, they don't seem to be interest in the bolded on this topic and showed their hands before even RvW was overturned. They couldn't wait to line up for bans or extreme positions like this. They are just like the left - they bend to the will of the extremes of the party, and this particular issue seems to really be costing them at the polls. It makes sense, taken to its logical conclusion. They think abortion is murder, just like as if it was a person who had been born. Well you can’t kill a person just because they suffer from a severe medical defect. You can’t kill a person just because they were a child of rape or incest 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I am not for aborting kids because they have a disability but if youre going to, do it before 20 weeks also the title to this thread is an outright clickbait I think you are purposely leaving out key info on that first part - such as consequences to the mother (life, fertility, etc.) and the fact that he kid is not merely disabled, but very likely not going to live. Shocking, but sometimes the woman doesn't have all this info at 20 weeks either. Clickbait maybe, but "woman wants to abort baby because it has a disability" is probably even less accurate to the story, and that's what you are trying to sell us. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: It makes sense, taken to its logical conclusion. They think abortion is murder, just like as if it was a person who had been born. Well you can’t kill a person just because they suffer from a severe medical defect. You can’t kill a person just because they were a child of rape or incest Of course it makes sense. I'm just surprised that so many on the right fell for it, and now seem to be surprised the party seems to want to take it to the other extreme and it's backfiring on them in the polls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, 5-Points said: See how easy it is to sense when it's there? Again, backtrack to funny having nuggets of truth to them. Clowing on Biden for sniffing kids or Trump for having the hots for his daughter is funny because they are true. Explain to me now why you kicking pregnant women in the stomach is funny? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted December 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: Of course it makes sense. I'm just surprised that so many on the right fell for it, and now seem to be surprised the party seems to want to take it to the other extreme and it's backfiring on them in the polls. True. Personally I think this case just demonstrates how a fetus is NOT a person. The person could not survive on their own. The fetus can “survive” and come to term because it is essentially a parasite, not a person. It lives off the body of its host. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,399 Posted December 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: Again, backtrack to funny having nuggets of truth to them. Clowing on Biden for sniffing kids or Trump for having the hots for his daughter is funny because they are true. Explain to me now why you kicking pregnant women in the stomach is funny? Explain to me why it isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,158 Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, 5-Points said: She can come to my house. I'll kick her in the stomach a few times for a hundo. Then I’ll kick you n the face for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,158 Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, edjr said: wow. Republicans really are sick, twisted focks when it comes to a woman potentially having serious issues delivering a baby. Common sense must prevail. Murder isn’t common sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,158 Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Strike said: This is the problem with the Republican party. If they just came up with reasonable stances on these types of things they'd be in pretty good shape. Let's say 4 months abort for any reason, up to 6 months for certain medical conditions, and later in extreme situations like this. There is no way they should be dying on this hill. No time is a good time frame to murder someone, why do you think it’s okay to murder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,158 Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: Yeah, if ever there was an instance where an abortion is the best solution, this would be it. Why force somebody to give birth to a life-long burden on the system? Because murder is wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,158 Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I am not for aborting kids because they have a disability but if youre going to, do it before 20 weeks also the title to this thread is an outright clickbait Lol so you’re not for murder because of a disability, but you’re still okay with murder. Yea you’re dummer then you look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,158 Posted December 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: True. Personally I think this case just demonstrates how a fetus is NOT a person. The person could not survive on their own. The fetus can “survive” and come to term because it is essentially a parasite, not a person. It lives off the body of its host. 4th week we have a heart beat and it’s pumping blood, it’s murder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites