Lions 2pt attempt

[Fireballer 2,639]

*Not a Lions fan*
 

I’m just picking through Twitter trying to make heads or tales of the 2pt conversion that was flagged.  Video shows Goff sending Decker (68) over to the refs before the play. And then 70 runs up after.  If 68 reported, there’s no penalty, he was basically a TE.  From Campbells presser, it sounded like a play that was reviewed before the game for compliance, and refs fuked it up. Sounds like 70 was there to confuse Dallas, and refs got 68 and 70 confused.  You can clearly see 70 saying “I didn’t say a thing” after the flag was thrown.  
 

 

 

[cyclone24 1,912]

Yeah, I don’t understand the point of trying to get cute and trick Dallas. A lot of times don’t the refs announce who is eligible over the loudspeaker? But you see the refs go over and tell Dallas anyway, but he says the wrong number. But then again, if you don’t get cute Trying that little miss direction maybe the official doesn’t get confused 

[5-Points 3,387]

If he reported, the ref didn't hear him. If he did, he would've declared him eligible to the D. He didn't. 

What's the problem?

 

[cyclone24 1,912]

I think they tried to get cute and have Decker just rub his belly like he’s reporting and like he says he didn’t say anything but then the other guy is sprinting in, so yeah your attention is going to go to him because you assume he’s doing it to report

[Fireballer 2,639]

13 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

If he reported, the ref didn't hear him. If he did, he would've declared him eligible to the D. He didn't. 

What's the problem?

 

I think 68 reported, and his attention was fixated on 70 running onto the field.  Also, 70 had reported several other times during game.  Ref was too worried about what strip club he was headed to post-game.

[Fireballer 2,639]

 

[Fireballer 2,639]

 

[DonS 3,292]

And yet Cowgirl fans will b1tch about refs next time they get their asses kicked.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

Once Detroit got penalized they should have kicked and gone to OT. Campbell often takes his bravado too far.  

[Fireballer 2,639]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Once Detroit got penalized they should have kicked and gone to OT. Campbell often takes his bravado too far.  

I felt like I was watching Tin Cup during the repeated 2pt attempts

[5-Points 3,387]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Once Detroit got penalized they should have kicked and gone to OT. Campbell often takes his bravado too far.  

This

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49 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I felt like I was watching Tin Cup during the repeated 2pt attempts

And this

Take the PAT and go to OT

 

Or don't   

 

 

[Reality 3,092]

The ref clearly blew it, it's a bummer for Detroit. There will be a useless apology from the NFL later this week.

That said, you have to kick the xp after the bad call and tie it. That's on Detroit.

[seafoam1 2,799]

What was Detroit doing that whole game? Of course, I turned it off after I saw Detroit, down 7-3, with a 4th and goal at like the 6 or 7 yard line and they went for it instead of taking the 3 points in the first half of the game. Was their kicker injured or something?

[edjr 6,578]

This would never happen to Belichick. Campbell is .  going for 2 after the penalty is fireable. 

[cyclone24 1,912]

Again, if 70 wasn’t reporting, why was he sprinting towards the ref? 
 

The whole thing is weird. When 68 goes over to the ref initially he’s there with another lineman. Why? It doesn’t sound like he says anything that grabs the official attention because he doesn’t look at him. 
 

And what was Campbell having to explain before the game? He hit his hand on the podium like there was three or four things that were going to happen, which again makes me think they were going to try to get cute, fake reporting 70 and try to sneak 68 and by just rubbing his belly to report. 

[Reality 3,092]

Oh boy.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

15 minutes ago, edjr said:

This would never happen to Belichick. Campbell is .  going for 2 after the penalty is fireable. 

Exactly. Some real dumb coaches out there. Two were on display last night. If you ask me, McCarthy not running the ball and killing the clock was the dumbest thing I saw last night. 

[edjr 6,578]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Exactly. Some real dumb coaches out there. Two were on display last night. If you ask me, McCarthy not running the ball and killing the clock was the dumbest thing I saw last night. 

and calling a Timeout on the 2 pt conversion with 23 seconds on the clock, with that kicker? What a doorknob.

23 seconds and 2 TOs, Dallas easily gets into FG range. 

[supermike80 1,799]

It was pretty bad football from both sides.   Not what i expected 

[edjr 6,578]

25 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Again, if 70 wasn’t reporting, why was he sprinting towards the ref? 
 

 

To try and trick Dallas, herb. 

Remember this? When Baltimore cried and begged for a rule change?  One big Difference, Campbell is a blockhead. 

[Ron_Artest 1,044]

The 2 pt conversion worked, the refs stole it.

The second try was there but Goff missed the throw.

If he makes the throw then Campbell is a genius.  He missed the throw so Campbell is an idiot.

Fans are dumb.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

The 2 pt conversion worked, the refs stole it.

The second try was there but Goff missed the throw.

If he makes the throw then Campbell is a genius.  He missed the throw so Campbell is an idiot.

Fans are dumb.

Yeah.  You can say that about every play.  Great analysis. Glad you’re here. 

[edjr 6,578]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

If he makes the throw then Campbell is a genius.  He missed the throw so Campbell is an idiot.

 

23 seconds on the clock with the best kicker in the league and 1 timeout. Game was not over if they get the 2 pt conversion. Stop. 

[Ron_Artest 1,044]

4 minutes ago, edjr said:

23 seconds on the clock with the best kicker in the league and 1 timeout. Game was not over if they get the 2 pt conversion. Stop. 

I never said the game was over and if it's your contention that the cowgirls would have kicked a FG to win anyway then Campbell decision is meaningless 

[edjr 6,578]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I never said the game was over and if it's your contention that the cowgirls would have kicked a FG to win anyway then Campbell decision is meaningless 

Maybe you didn't, but plenty people believe the Lions win with that 2 pt. conversion.  We all know Dallas could easily have kicked a FG. Another reason McCarthy is a boob, he wasted a TO during the 2 pt. conversion. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

Mike Tomlin spent half a season always going for two. I guess if it worked he would be a genius. Until it didn’t. 

[kilroy69 1,215]

The fact that the ref is sticking with his story when you can clearly see it is a lie is absurd. There is literally video proof that what they are saying is a lie. 

[5-Points 3,387]

42 minutes ago, edjr said:

23 seconds on the clock with the best kicker in the league and 1 timeout. Game was not over if they get the 2 pt conversion. Stop. 

Aubrey is $ from anywhere within 70 yards. 

[Ron_Artest 1,044]

2 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

The fact that the ref is sticking with his story when you can clearly see it is a lie is absurd. There is literally video proof that what they are saying is a lie. 

If the spread wasn't 4.5 then this would be a huge scandal 

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7 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

The fact that the ref is sticking with his story when you can clearly see it is a lie is absurd. There is literally video proof that what they are saying is a lie. 

Where's the audio of Decker reporting? 

[BuckSwope 654]

10 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

Yeah, I don’t understand the point of trying to get cute and trick Dallas. A lot of times don’t the refs announce who is eligible over the loudspeaker? But you see the refs go over and tell Dallas anyway, but he says the wrong number. But then again, if you don’t get cute Trying that little miss direction maybe the official doesn’t get confused 

Lol. So the answer is not trying new plays and formations? 

[kilroy69 1,215]

7 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Where's the audio of Decker reporting? 

In no world would Aikman defend the lions unless something was off

[jonmx 2,424]

11 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

Yeah, I don’t understand the point of trying to get cute and trick Dallas. A lot of times don’t the refs announce who is eligible over the loudspeaker? But you see the refs go over and tell Dallas anyway, but he says the wrong number. But then again, if you don’t get cute Trying that little miss direction maybe the official doesn’t get confused 

There was no misdirection.  I really don't understand this arguement at all.   The ref has to tell the defense what number is eligible.  That is all that matters to them.  The defense is not watching the ref trying to decipher which player reported.   It seems like a nonsensical point. 

[Reality 3,092]

The right move, this ref and his crew can't be let anywhere near a playoff game. 

 

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10 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

In no world would Aikman defend the lions unless something was off

Aikman is a commentator. He was speculating. I want audio of Decker saying "reporting" to the ref. Otherwise this is all just speculation. 

Look, I'm a Cowboys fan. If Decker reported and the ref missed it, that sucks and I'd be pissed if it was the other way around. 

Some of you seem to be suggesting that Decker reported, the ref heard him, acknowledged it, reported his eligibility to the defense, then threw a flag on him. 

Does that make sense to you? 

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3 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Aikman is a commentator. He was speculating. I want audio of Decker saying "reporting" to the ref. Otherwise this is all just speculation. 

Look, I'm a Cowboys fan. If Decker reported and the ref missed it, that sucks and I'd be pissed if it was the other way around. 

Some of you seem to be suggesting that Decker reported, the ref heard him, acknowledged it, reported his eligibility to the defense, then threw a flag on him. 

Does that make sense to you? 

You don't need audio, there's only one reason those lineman were talking to the ref. Decker clearly reported and Allen even nodded at him.

Allen screwed up and the video proves he's lying. 

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Oh boy.

 

 

[5-Points 3,387]

16 minutes ago, Reality said:

You don't need audio, there's only one reason those lineman were talking to the ref. Decker clearly reported and Allen even nodded at him.

Allen screwed up and the video proves he's lying. 

 

Is it possible that the Lions sent two players over to the ref and had a third player run in at the last second to try to confuse the Cowboys, somebody reported, the ref thought it was one player when it was, in fact, another player, the ref heard who he thought reported and declared THAT player as eligible to the defense? 

You can't have three OL declared eligible on a play. The Lions got cute trying to confuse the Cowboys and instead, they confused the ref. 

Or the ref heard Decker declare his eligibility, acknowledged it, reported it to the defense then flagged him for it afterwards. 

Which makes more sense? 

 

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

11 hours ago, Fireballer said:

*Not a Lions fan*
 

I’m just picking through Twitter trying to make heads or tales of the 2pt conversion that was flagged.  Video shows Goff sending Decker (68) over to the refs before the play. And then 70 runs up after.  If 68 reported, there’s no penalty, he was basically a TE.  From Campbells presser, it sounded like a play that was reviewed before the game for compliance, and refs fuked it up. Sounds like 70 was there to confuse Dallas, and refs got 68 and 70 confused.  You can clearly see 70 saying “I didn’t say a thing” after the flag was thrown.  
 

 

 

Refs might have focked up but that doesn’t make them “pure trash.” People are way too incendiary these days  

[Reality 3,092]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

Is it possible that the Lions sent two players over to the ref and had a third player run in at the last second to try to confuse the Cowboys, somebody reported, the ref thought it was one player when it was, in fact, another player, the ref heard who he thought reported and declared THAT player as eligible to the defense? 

You can't have three OL declared eligible on a play. The Lions got cute trying to confuse the Cowboys and instead, they confused the ref. 

Or the ref heard Decker declare his eligibility, acknowledged it, reported it to the defense then flagged him for it afterwards. 

Which makes more sense? 

Watch the video bud, Allen is looking directly at Decker and nods. Maybe Allen didn't realize it was 68 but, it's very obvious that he's nodding at Decker. There's literally video evidence, we don't have to speculate.

Allen screwed this up horribly and the video makes it blatantly obvious.

Alright, I've spent too much time on this, I don't give a shlt about either team.