USC players fire indirect shots at Caleb Williams by shouting “We a team now!” after upsetting Louisville under Miller Moss’ leadership

[DonS 3,292]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

 

also, has USC ever produced a QB that lived up to the hype?

 

I was thinking about this the other day.  Was Leinart the last USC QB to be drafted in first round?  Am I forgetting anyone since him? 

Edit: duh.  Darnold, Palmer, Sanchez, to name a few. 

[seafoam1 3,025]

2 hours ago, DonS said:

I was thinking about this the other day.  Was Leinart the last USC QB to be drafted in first round?  Am I forgetting anyone since him? 

Edit: duh.  Darnold, Palmer, Sanchez, to name a few. 

Don't forget the great Rob Johnson, Rodney Peete, Matt Barkley, Vince Evans, and Sean Salisbury..

Ok. I looked them up....

So does that make Palmer the best of the lot? I guess so. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

7 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I find it concerning that Williams and Maye skipped their bowl games. Maybe I’m old fashioned but a true leader and competitor would not do such a thing

Jayden Daniels may go before Maye and he opted out.  

Good luck drafting your non opt out team.  Might as well just trade your 1st for a vet now. 

 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

USC may have many busts.  But so does Ohio State.  The Big 12 for decades produced hardly any even decent NFL QBs until Mahomes.  

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

7 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I find it concerning that Williams and Maye skipped their bowl games. Maybe I’m old fashioned but a true leader and competitor would not do such a thing

It's a business.  No one cares except old fashioned curmudgeons.

[Voltaire 5,316]

7 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

agree.  I would have rather played one last game with my college boys than the few games I got to play in spring training any day

also, has USC ever produced a QB that lived up to the hype?

 

Carson Palmer but point taken.

[nobody 2,673]

Has there been any school that churns out all-pro QBs?

[MDC 7,428]

It would be hilarious if duh Bears passed on a QB with the first pick again to build around Justin Fields.

It’s like Chicago doesn’t want a franchise QB.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

13 minutes ago, nobody said:

Has there been any school that churns out all-pro QBs?

Top of my head Miami back in the day. Kosar, Kelly, Testaverde. Notre Dame, Theismann, Montana. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Duke- Steve Spurier, Dave Brown, Daniel Jones. 
 

 

 

 

[Voltaire 5,316]

14 minutes ago, MDC said:

It would be hilarious if duh Bears passed on a QB with the first pick again to build around Justin Fields.

It’s like Chicago doesn’t want a franchise QB.  

I'd build around Fields. I'm not saying that as a division rival that wants Chicago to lose, I mean in all sincerity the guy has talent and can play. If they give up on Fields for door #2, it's both a wasted pick and likely a downgrade.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Stanford is a good one.  Plunkett Elway Luck

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Standford is a good one.  Plunkett Elway Luck

I think that’s the winner. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Just now, Voltaire said:

I'd build around Fields. I'm not saying that as a division rival that wants Chicago to lose, I mean in all sincerity the guy has talent and can play. If they give up on Fields for door #2, it's both a wasted pick and likely a downgrade.

Again, I am not saying he can't improve, especially somewhere else.  

But what part of his career leads you to believe he can play?  Why do no other faulty QBs get a pass for bad coaching?

In 37 games (10-27) he has 30 INTs and 38 fumbles.  All while taking sacks and at an insane rate.  He focking avg over 1 fumble per game.  

He has 54 total TDs in those 37 games. 

[MDC 7,428]

Just now, Voltaire said:

I'd build around Fields. I'm not saying that as a division rival that wants Chicago to lose, I mean in all sincerity the guy has talent and can play. If they give up on Fields for door #2, it's both a wasted pick and likely a downgrade.

What happens if Chicago passes on a QB and Fields has a typical season next year - 18 TDs vs. 10 INTs and a 85 QBR. Now you’re sort of stuck extending him without seeing enough to know if he’s a franchise QB and not knowing when you’ll be at the top of the draft again.

Duh Bears should learn from the Football Giants mistake with Danny Dimes and cut bait while they can.

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

56 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I'd build around Fields. I'm not saying that as a division rival that wants Chicago to lose, I mean in all sincerity the guy has talent and can play. If they give up on Fields for door #2, it's both a wasted pick and likely a downgrade.

He's dogsh!t.

[DonS 3,292]

6 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Don't forget the great Rob Johnson, Rodney Peete, Matt Barkley, Vince Evans, and Sean Salisbury..

Ok. I looked them up....

So does that make Palmer the best of the lot? I guess so. 

Focking Rob Johnson

I wish Buffalo had never ended up with that Loverboy headband wearing POS. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

The narrative right now is the Bears should roll with Fields.  He is playing better and they are winning.  Well the defense has turned it around, but lets look at Fields last 6 games and what playing well looks like for him.  

202 pass yds per game

5 TD passes 3 rushing TDs

3ints 6 fumbles

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

I’m nit saying I watch every bears game for 60 min, but I do think he has looked better since coming back from injury.  

[listen2me 23 1,873]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m nit saying I watch every bears game for 60 min, but I do think he has looked better since coming back from injury.  

Could be.  Point is....the bar is that low.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

18 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Could be.  Point is....the bar is that low.  

He isn’t exactly working with a stacked deck. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He isn’t exactly working with a stacked deck. 

Lol.  The ol pass he gets.  Explain.

[MDC 7,428]

Just now, listen2me 23 said:

Lol.  The ol pass he gets.  Explain.

Football Giants fans have made the same excuses for Danny Dimes for years. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Just now, listen2me 23 said:

Lol.  The ol pass he gets.  Explain.

DJ Moore and Kemet is about it. Again, he has a ways to go. Just saying I’ve seen improvement.  

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

DJ Moore and Kemet is about it. Again, he has a ways to go. Just saying I’ve seen improvement.  

Fields has crappy passing stats.  Yet Moore has 1300 yds.  Kmet is 7th in fantasy points fot a TE.  Kmet was picked at 43 overall.  

No they aren't stacked.  Not every team is going to be stacked to the gills. 

Leading WR in the Packers route of Minny was Bo Melton.  

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Fields has bad coaching.  He has Love's old QB coach/passing game coordinator.   

[seafoam1 3,025]

11 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Fields has crappy passing stats.  Yet Moore has 1300 yds.  Kmet is 7th in fantasy points fot a TE.  Kmet was picked at 43 overall.  

No they aren't stacked.  Not every team is going to be stacked to the gills. 

Leading WR in the Packers route of Minny was Bo Melton.  

Just picked up Melton in my dynasty. Dude looked good. Worth a shot. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

As a patriots fan, I sure hope the bears stick with fields, so there will be more QBs available at pick 3.

However, the bears would be focking stupid to do so. He is mediocre at best and really much closer to just bad 

[jerryskids 6,799]

On 1/3/2024 at 7:57 AM, listen2me 23 said:

Stanford is a good one.  Plunkett Elway Luck

May not even be the best in the bay area.

Cal:  Rodgers, Steve Bartkowski, Joe Kapp, Goff, Craig Morton

[listen2me 23 1,873]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

May not even be the best in the bay area.

Cal:  Rodgers, Steve Bartkowski, Joe Kapp, Goff, Craig Morton

I think its more on the basis of producing pro QBs.  At least thats how I responded

[GobbleDog 996]

On 1/2/2024 at 11:18 AM, jerryskids said:

 But as I watched him over the season, I was increasingly underwhelmed.

I only watched him in one game this year... can't remember which one. But me and my friends felt the same way - very underwhelmed.

[nobody 2,673]

3 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

As a patriots fan, I sure hope the bears stick with fields, so there will be more QBs available at pick 3.

However, the bears would be focking stupid to do so. He is mediocre at best and really much closer to just bad 

If the bears stick with fields, they'll trade the pick to a QB needy team.

[DonS 3,292]

I think University of Wyoming has a 100% success rate when it comes to producing QBs that get drafted in the first round. 

(every day I thank the Little Baby Jesus that Buffalo didn't take the "other" Josh) 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

1 minute ago, DonS said:

I think University of Wyoming has a 100% success rate when it comes to producing QBs that get drafted in the first round. 

(every day I thank the Little Baby Jesus that Buffalo didn't take the "other" Josh) 

Wild draft.   Lots of moving parts.  Darnold was my guy in that draft.  Was wrong.  Allen always stood out with his tools, I didn't know how to take his college career.  

[seafoam1 3,025]

6 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

As a patriots fan, I sure hope the bears stick with fields, so there will be more QBs available at pick 3.

However, the bears would be focking stupid to do so. He is mediocre at best and really much closer to just bad 

Yeah, you can have this blubbering tool mommy's boy who wants ownership in the team he's drafted by. 

 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Quay Walker on Justin Fields: "We know anytime we can take away his first read, whether we’re in man or zone, he’s pretty much going to take off. Whenever we can keep him in the pocket and allow him just to play QB, and not allow him to run, we have a real, real good chance.”

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

It’s impossible to truly predict how any QB will perform in the NFL. But personally I regard Caleb as the best prospect since Andrew Luck. He’s my number one pick regardless of who my team already has behind center, 

[RLLD 4,230]

I am on the fence with this guy, for the moment.  Going to be patient for now as I start to conduct some FF evaluations.

[nobody 2,673]

He's going to be a turnover machine in the NFL.  

[listen2me 23 1,873]

More evidence to keep Fields!  This time from a former Bear.  

Everyone has an opinion on what the Bears should do with the No. 1 pick this offseason. After the game, NBC Sports Chicago analyst Alex Brown expressed his thoughts after watching Love pass for 316 yards on 27 completions for the Packers' fifth straight season sweep of the Bears.

"I want a quarterback like that," Brown said. "That's what I want. We don't have that. I want a quarterback like Green Bay has. I want a quarterback that can make these passes and pinpoint the damn football. That's what I want. Why do we always have to not have that?

"And if we don't get it, let's keep looking for it. But when we get that, then I think we'll be at a point where we can compete year in and year out on a playoff team. Green Bay's down years are .500. Our down years, we got the first pick. Like, this is crazy. Let's go get a damn quarterback. Let's go get one that can help us win like [the Packers] have."