Jan 6, 2021

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

5 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I am not betting $1000.  Maybe a lower amount, but the terms need to be laid out and include appeals.  

 

What? You wrote “Jack’s cases aren’t going nowhere”. Grammatically inept but we all get your meaning. Apparently you don’t have the courage of your convictions. 

[squistion 2,051]

7 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I am not betting $1000.  Maybe a lower amount, but the terms need to be laid out and include appeals.  

Including appeals?  

That could drag out Tim being paid for 5+ years if you lose (which is why you included that)

[Raven Fan 362]

15 minutes ago, jonmx said:

A prosecutor has all kinds of methods to compel testimony.   Basically all Jack did was provide immunity, but dressed it up like he got a conviction to fool you clueless morons. 

You legit got owned boyo. Trumps confidants will now testify against him when before they wouldn’t have.  Damn Smith is just putting up goose eggs…I mean massive wins.

Love this for you. 

[jonmx 2,425]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What? You wrote “Jack’s cases aren’t going nowhere”. Grammatically inept but we all get your meaning. Apparently you don’t have the courage of your convictions. 

It is not something I woukd better $1000 on, especially on the internet.  We saw people ghost on FBG on large amounts. 

[jonmx 2,425]

2 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

You legit got owned boyo. Trumps confidants will now testify against him when before they wouldn’t have.  Damn Smith is just putting up goose eggs…I mean massive wins.

Love this for you. 

They have no choice.  A federal prosecutor has no problems issuing and serving supeonas.  

[Raven Fan 362]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

They have no choice.  A federal prosecutor has no problems issuing and serving supeonas.  

They could have pled the 5th. What about this is so challenging for you to understand? Smith flipped them, they’ll now not plead the 5th.  The master who’s boots you slurp is cooked boyo. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

1 hour ago, BeachGuy23 said:

You think the SCOTUS doesn't overturn cases often?

And don't you refer to another man, not your father, as father?

hahahahahahaha

Come on group home dinner!

 No, they don’t 9-0. Does TDS Rob you of your ability to read too? And I don’t refer to Trump as father. You like just making things up. 

[jonmx 2,425]

1 minute ago, Raven Fan said:

They could have pled the 5th. What about this is so challenging for you to understand? Smith flipped them, they’ll now not plead the 5th.  The master who’s boots you slurp is cooked boyo. 

 The prosecutor can still compel testimony by offering immunity.  What Jack accomplished was to get headlines for all the dumbass TDSers. 

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, jonmx said:

 The prosecutor can still compel testimony by offering immunity.  What Jack accomplished was to get headlines for all the dumbass TDSers. 

Lolololololololol

They didn’t get immunity.  They flipped.  Why’d they flip if Smith has no case?  

Slurp slurp those Orange moron’s boots boyo.

Love this for you. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

1 minute ago, Raven Fan said:

Lolololololololol

They didn’t get immunity.  They flipped.  Why’d they flip if Smith has no case?  

Slurp slurp those Orange moron’s boots boyo.

Love this for you. 

Another pathetic creature flipping between aliases. Why is it always the libtards doing that? 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Jack got overturned 9-0 by scotus last time he attempted his overtly political prosecution.  Why would you ever sign this guy on after that? He should be doing whatever lawerly things Worms does. This is out of his league. 

I doubt Jack is interested in name changes and sh1tty wills lifted off of legalzoom  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

17 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I doubt Jack is interested in name changes and sh1tty wills lifted off of legalzoom  

Atta boy Worms. You’re a witty guy when you’re not raging. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

It is not something I woukd better $1000 on, especially on the internet.  We saw people ghost on FBG on large amounts. 

Yeah but I never have and you know it. 

[squistion 2,051]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah but I never have and you know it. 

I only recall one person reneging on bets at FBGs and that was that guy from our neck of the woods, Southern California, that suckered people by offering odds that Trump would lose (can't remember his handle or the terms he offered). Anyway, he got like $1200 in bets and then disappeared forever after the election when he was asked to pay up. I felt no sympathy for those who didn't collect their winnings (and were actually out of pocket nothing).

It got ugly as people got his name and his wife's name (and where she worked) and wanted someone local to visit him (in Sherman Oaks I think) and request in person that he "repay" the funds. Someone asked if I would do it and I said "Hell, no, I got no dog in this fight."

[jonmx 2,425]

4 hours ago, squistion said:

I only recall one person reneging on bets at FBGs and that was that guy from our neck of the woods, Southern California, that suckered people by offering odds that Trump would lose (can't remember his handle or the terms he offered). Anyway, he got like $1200 in bets and then disappeared forever after the election when he was asked to pay up. I felt no sympathy for those who didn't collect their winnings (and were actually out of pocket nothing).

It got ugly as people got his name and his wife's name (and where she worked) and wanted someone local to visit him (in Sherman Oaks I think) and request in person that he "repay" the funds. Someone asked if I would do it and I said "Hell, no, I got no dog in this fight."

There was that guy who backed out of over $2100 over the Hillary loss.  Shocker a leftist would welch.  And there was the guy who ran Tim' League who spent over hundred thousand on software upgrades and then did not have any money left to payout the winners.  And there was at least one more, bit was nor that much.  

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

46 minutes ago, jonmx said:

There was that guy who backed out of over $2100 over the Hillary loss.  Shocker a leftist would welch.  And there was the guy who ran Tim' League who spent over hundred thousand on software upgrades and then did not have any money left to payout the winners.  And there was at least one more, bit was nor that much.  

Yes but not me. And you know this because I have paid you in the past. If you don’t want to make the bet because you’re afraid you might be wrong, fine. But don’t offer whiny excuses like you think I might not pay you. 

[squistion 2,051]

8 hours ago, jonmx said:

There was that guy who backed out of over $2100 over the Hillary loss.  Shocker a leftist would welch.  And there was the guy who ran Tim' League who spent over hundred thousand on software upgrades and then did not have any money left to payout the winners.  And there was at least one more, bit was nor that much.  

That was the same guy I'm talking about (from Sherman Oaks) so that just makes one "leftist" to my count.

The guy who was the FF league commissioner in Tim's league and who absconded with the league funds had nothing to do with his political ideology and I don't remember him being identified as liberal or conservative (but it is irrelevant in any event to the discussion). 

[thegeneral 3,065]

8 hours ago, jonmx said:

There was that guy who backed out of over $2100 over the Hillary loss.  Shocker a leftist would welch.  And there was the guy who ran Tim' League who spent over hundred thousand on software upgrades and then did not have any money left to payout the winners.  And there was at least one more, bit was nor that much.  

If you don’t want to lose any money you can just say so.

[jonmx 2,425]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

If you don’t want to lose any money you can just say so.

The one case the anti-Trump judge declared Trump guilty without a trial.  Once all the evidence was presented for determining the amount, it became crystal clear the entire case is a fraud.  Tim will demand payment immediately eventhough the case will eventually get thrown out.   I am not putting $1000 down on anything that is not well scoped out, especially with the games that are being played.  I really would not put $1000 down on it anyways, there are better bets in the crypto market.  

[Fnord 2,135]

16 hours ago, jonmx said:

The illegimate J6 committee?   Everyone on the panel was a rabid Trumo hater with their heads up their butt.  You guys are SOL if you are hoping to stop Trump with these crappy legal cases.   Just making Trump stronger and Democrats look like the pathetic bastards they are. 

The only folks crying about that committee are the MAGAMOOKS like you that need to find any way possible to refute the truth of that day: that useful idiots stormed the Capitol at the behest of their fraudulent leader because he couldn't deal with the reality of losing. MAGAMOOKS have distinct difficulties distinguishing fiction from reality 

[jonmx 2,425]

11 minutes ago, Fnord said:

The only folks crying about that committee are the MAGAMOOKS like you that need to find any way possible to refute the truth of that day: that useful idiots stormed the Capitol at the behest of their fraudulent leader because he couldn't deal with the reality of losing. MAGAMOOKS have distinct difficulties distinguishing fiction from reality 

I will layout Cassidy Hutchinson's actual transcript of her testimony before Congress versus what the J6 report claims she said.   I wouldnhope you would be ahocked as everything she 'said' that made headlines is a total fabrication. 

[thegeneral 3,065]

19 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The one case the anti-Trump judge declared Trump guilty without a trial.  Once all the evidence was presented for determining the amount, it became crystal clear the entire case is a fraud.  Tim will demand payment immediately eventhough the case will eventually get thrown out.   I am not putting $1000 down on anything that is not well scoped out, especially with the games that are being played.  I really would not put $1000 down on it anyways, there are better bets in the crypto market.  

These sound like poor excuses. It’s fine. 

Maybe a gentleman’s bet is more your style.

[jonmx 2,425]

22 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

These sound like poor excuses. It’s fine. 

Maybe a gentleman’s bet is more your style.

Lol...poor excuses?  A loosely defined bet for $1000.  Sorry, i ran into this exact same issue with Tim before. 

[squistion 2,051]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

The one case the anti-Trump judge declared Trump guilty without a trial.  Once all the evidence was presented for determining the amount, it became crystal clear the entire case is a fraud.  Tim will demand payment immediately eventhough the case will eventually get thrown out.   I am not putting $1000 down on anything that is not well scoped out, especially with the games that are being played.  I really would not put $1000 down on it anyways, there are better bets in the crypto market.  

Trump agreed not to have a jury trial.

There is a box he neglected to check in the court papers (you can find it online) where he could have asked for a jury trial. He chose not to.

If he really was innocent as you claim he should have gone before a jury. But he opted not to. 

[jonmx 2,425]

Just now, squistion said:

Trump agreed not to have a jury trial.

 

No he did not.

[Horseman 2,433]

15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Another pathetic creature flipping between aliases. Why is it always the libtards doing that? 

Foking guy sounds like someone in an India call center and he can't figure out why everyone knows his aliases.  Highly educated.  

https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/search/?q="aware me"

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Foking guy sounds like someone in an India call center and he can't figure out why everyone knows his aliases.  Highly educated.  

https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/search/?q="aware me"

What a stupid saying. He probably hears his niece wit the blue hair say it so he took his cue from that kid. 

[squistion 2,051]

28 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No he did not.

Here we go jonny, wrong again:

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/04/trump-fraud-trial-new-york-jury

Why Trump's fraud trial in New York doesn't have a jury

Former President Trump has repeatedly complained about the lack of a jury in his New York civil fraud trial, but his own legal team appears to have failed to request one.

Why it matters: Trump has claimed it's "unfair" that the judge in the case opted for a bench trial, without a jury. But the court docket shows that while Attorney General Letitia James filed a document requesting a bench trial, Trump's lawyers never filed any corresponding document requesting a jury.

[Reality 3,121]

15 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Foking guy sounds like someone in an India call center and he can't figure out why everyone knows his aliases.  Highly educated.  

https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/search/?q="aware me"

Awesome.

[seafoam1 2,867]

5 hours ago, Fnord said:

The only folks crying about that committee are the MAGAMOOKS like you that need to find any way possible to refute the truth of that day: that useful idiots stormed the Capitol at the behest of their fraudulent leader because he couldn't deal with the reality of losing. MAGAMOOKS have distinct difficulties distinguishing fiction from reality 

TDS must really hurt. 

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

6 hours ago, Horseman said:

Foking guy sounds like someone in an India call center and he can't figure out why everyone knows his aliases.  Highly educated.  

https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/search/?q="aware me"

Wow what a loser

[jonmx 2,425]

20 hours ago, squistion said:

Here we go jonny, wrong again:

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/04/trump-fraud-trial-new-york-jury

Why Trump's fraud trial in New York doesn't have a jury

Former President Trump has repeatedly complained about the lack of a jury in his New York civil fraud trial, but his own legal team appears to have failed to request one.

Why it matters: Trump has claimed it's "unfair" that the judge in the case opted for a bench trial, without a jury. But the court docket shows that while Attorney General Letitia James filed a document requesting a bench trial, Trump's lawyers never filed any corresponding document requesting a jury.

As usual, the the media you blindly trust is lying.  None of the media is independent, it is all orchestrated lies as they all tell the same BS story.  According to the judge in the case....

Judge Arthur Engoron:  “It would have not helped to make a motion. Nobody forgot to check off a box.”

Your government-controlled media lies to you every day, but yet you trust them and only them for the truth.  This country is full of brainwashed leftist bootlicking morons who are incapable of thinking for themselves.  

 

[BeachGuy23 642]

20 minutes ago, jonmx said:

As usual, the the media you blindly trust is lying.  None of the media is independent, it is all orchestrated lies as they all tell the same BS story.  According to the judge in the case....

Judge Arthur Engoron:  “It would have not helped to make a motion. Nobody forgot to check off a box.”

Your government-controlled media lies to you every day, but yet you trust them and only them for the truth.  This country is full of brainwashed leftist bootlicking morons who are incapable of thinking for themselves.  

 

What are you arguing friend?  Trump's lawyers didn't do what they needed to do to get a jury trial.

This is accurate and what's been reported.

Who's the brainwashed moron again?

[jonmx 2,425]

34 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

What are you arguing friend?  Trump's lawyers didn't do what they needed to do to get a jury trial.

This is accurate and what's been reported.

Who's the brainwashed moron again?

Ok, so the judge in the case clearly states everything you just said is completely wrong, but you are too dumb to understand that.  The way the case was filed and accepted by the court, there was no option for a jury trial no matter what motion was filed by the defense.   And even if there was, the same judge said he would not have allowed it.  This judge hates Trump more than Satan and wants to control the entire process and throw Trump in jail, even if it has to make a 100 outrageously wrong rulings, which he already has. 

[squistion 2,051]

41 minutes ago, jonmx said:

As usual, the the media you blindly trust is lying.  None of the media is independent, it is all orchestrated lies as they all tell the same BS story.  According to the judge in the case....

Judge Arthur Engoron:  “It would have not helped to make a motion. Nobody forgot to check off a box.”

Your government-controlled media lies to you every day, but yet you trust them and only them for the truth.  This country is full of brainwashed leftist bootlicking morons who are incapable of thinking for themselves.  

From the link:

"New York Attorney General Letitia James, who is prosecuting the lawsuit, brought the case seeking “equitable” relief, which does not allow for a jury trial"

A jury trial was not allowed (apparently by statute when asking for equitable relief) so Trump is in no position to blame or complain about the judge (or even the DA) for this.  The DA had the right to seek equitable relief and the judge had no discretion in the matter.

Trump's lawyers should explain to him that a jury trial is not allowed when "equitable relief" is sought, so he doesn't continue to look foolish with his ignorant rants about how unfair Engoron is.

 

[jonmx 2,425]

Just now, squistion said:

From the link:

"New York Attorney General Letitia James, who is prosecuting the lawsuit, brought the case seeking “equitable” relief, which does not allow for a jury trial"

A jury trial was not allowed (apparently by statute when asking for equitable relief) so Trump is in no position to blame or complain about the judge (or even the DA) for this.  The DA had the right to seek equitable relief and the judge had no discretion in the matter.

Trump's lawyers should explain to him that a jury trial is not allowed when "equitable relief" is sought, so he doesn't continue to look foolish with his ignorant rants about how unfair Engoron is.

 

So you are going to gloss over the fact that 100 mainstream media sources lied to you, and you were wrong and now you backtrack to a completely different spin?

[squistion 2,051]

Just now, jonmx said:

So you are going to gloss over the fact that 100 mainstream media sources lied to you, and you were wrong and now you backtrack to a completely different spin?

They didn't lie. Like Trump and his lawyers they apparently didn't know the laws in NY Courts of Equity either. 

The spin is the truth, Trump could not have had a jury trial even if he asked for one, so he should stop lying about Engoron being "unfair"

[jonmx 2,425]

14 minutes ago, squistion said:

They didn't lie. Like Trump and his lawyers they apparently didn't know the laws in NY Courts of Equity either. 

The spin is the truth, Trump could not have had a jury trial even if he asked for one, so he should stop lying about Engoron being "unfair"

 

When the news makes Trump look bad, the media automatically runs with the story.

When the news helps Trump, they need 10 levels of verification and only reports the story when it is too late to help. 

If you had a brain capable of independant thought, you would realize you are being manipulated. 

[squistion 2,051]

15 minutes ago, jonmx said:

When the news makes Trump look bad, the media automatically runs with the story.

When the news helps Trump, they need 10 levels of verification and only reports the story when it is too late to help. 

If you had a brain capable of independant thought, you would realize you are being manipulated. 

If you believed what Trump was saying (which you did) then you are the one being manipulated by him. 

[jonmx 2,425]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

If you believed what Trump was saying (which you did) then you are the one being manipulated by him. 

I don't believe a lot if things which Trump says as he usually speaks off the cuff with limited knowledge.  In this case he mostly got it correct, but needed more nuance.  It was the judge discretion to accept the case as filed, which he should have rejected the premise since many facts in the case are disputed, and in fact most of the facts assumed to be true by the court proved to be false.