Rachel Maddow defends MSNBC's refusal to air Trump's Iowa victory speech

[Baker Boy 1,694]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

From the link:

She explained that MSNBC and other news outlets are interested in telling the truth. 

"The reason I’m saying this is, of course, there is a reason that we and other news organizations have generally stopped giving an unfiltered, live platform to remarks by former President Trump," Maddow said. "It is not out of spite, it is not a decision that we relish, it is a decision that we regularly revisit. And, honestly, earnestly, it is not an easy decision." 

She went on to claim that airing Trump's "untrue" statements live on television hurts MSNBC's brand. "But there is a cost to us, as a news organization," Maddow said, "of knowingly broadcasting untrue things. That is a fundamental truth of our business and who we are. And so, his remarks, tonight, will not air here live. We will monitor them and let you know about any news that he makes."

I like to make up my own mind on what is truth and I sure don’t want Rachel Meadows, deciding for me.

This is nothing More Than censorship under the guise of righteousness.

[supermike80 1,887]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I like to make up my own mind on what is truth and I sure don’t want Rachel Meadows, deciding for me.

This is nothing More Than censorship under the guys of righteousness.

This.   100% this

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

4 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I like to make up my own mind on what is truth and I sure don’t want Rachel Meadows, deciding for me.

This is nothing More Than censorship under the guys of righteousness.

Censorship is a regular function of news broadcasts and in itself not troubling. Only when government gets involved does it become a bad thing. 
 

And nobody is stopping you from making up your own mind. Nobody is forcing you to watch Rachel Maddow which goes to my earlier point about boycotting MSNBC. There were numerous ways you could have watched Trump last night if you wanted to. There is no suppression of speech going on here. 

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

Incidentally, I disagree with Maddow’s argument. I would have shown Trump’s speech and then dissected it, pointing out the obvious untruths. But what they chose to do instead is hardly worth the condemnation or wrongful analysis it’s receiving here. 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Censorship is a regular function of news broadcasts and in itself not troubling. Only when government gets involved does it become a bad thing. 
 

And nobody is stopping you from making up your own mind. Nobody is forcing you to watch Rachel Maddow which goes to my earlier point about boycotting MSNBC. There were numerous ways you could have watched Trump last night if you wanted to. There is no suppression of speech going on here. 

censorship:

1. It’s not happening 

2. It’s not widespread 

3. It’s is needed.

 

[RLLD 4,199]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

1. It’s not happening 

2. It’s not widespread 

3. It’s is needed.

 

First deny  <------- WE ARE HERE

then when caught.....minimize by saying "its just that one store" or "its isolated"

as it spreads declare it to be a "right wing conspiracy theory"

as it surges....blame Republicans....rinse.....repeat....

Finally throw out the "what does it matter now" to pretend we should just drop it.

Source

[edjr 6,580]

The least fuckable famous woman alive right now?

Maddow hands down? 

[supermike80 1,887]

15 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

censorship:

1. It’s not happening 

2. It’s not widespread 

3. It’s is needed.

 

Remember kids..Timmy is the guy who has said countless times, that MSNBC< CNN, etc are not biased.   He really believes that. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

No right wing media refuses to show Biden speaking. Because it’s so pathetic. Why would they? 

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

12 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Remember kids..Timmy is the guy who has said countless times, that MSNBC< CNN, etc are not biased.   He really believes that. 

I’ve said that their news reporting is accurate. Same for Fox News. 

[jonmx 2,425]

25 minutes ago, RLLD said:

First deny  <------- WE ARE HERE

then when caught.....minimize by saying "its just that one store" or "its isolated"

as it spreads declare it to be a "right wing conspiracy theory"

as it surges....blame Republicans....rinse.....repeat....

Finally throw out the "what does it matter now" to pretend we should just drop it.

Source

 

Yep.   The left sincerely believes thoughts critical of their corrupt authority should be outlawed. 

[supermike80 1,887]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve said that their news reporting is accurate. Same for Fox News. 

The news they care to share of course.   

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

People want to listen hear the Iowa Caucus winner speech? 

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No right wing media refuses to show Biden speaking. Because it’s so pathetic. Why would they? 

This isn’t true at all. On several occasions I was watching a press conference or speech by Biden that was showing on CNN and MSNBC and out of curiosity switched to Fox News- they didn’t show it. Which BTW is their prerogative. I’ve got no problem with it. 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve said that their news reporting is accurate. Same for Fox News. 

I guess you forgot about their push on Russian collusion to name just one lie they push for years.

how about when they villainized the 17-year-old boy for wearing a mega hat in Washington DC diagnosed

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

3 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

The news they care to share of course.   

Of course. All newscasts have to decide what to report. Their main goal is ratings. 

[zsasz 368]

Meh.  FOX has done the same in the past. It's like you clowns have never seen these news channels before Trump. 

[BuckSwope 654]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think all of you should probably boycott MSNBC. 

Ok, this got a laugh.

[Baker Boy 1,694]

1 minute ago, zsasz said:

Meh.  FOX has done the same in the past. It's like you clowns have never seen these news channels before Trump. 

When and how did they do this?

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

I guess you forgot about their push on Russian collusion to name just one lie they push for years.

I haven’t forgotten anything. The Mueller investigation was a huge news story and was reported heavily as a result. Was it reported fairly? I think so. 

[RLLD 4,199]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course. All newscasts have to decide what to report. Their main goal is ratings. 

This.  

There goal is not to inform.....not to hold power to account.....not to be a hedge against power....no sir....their goal is to get ratings......

[seafoam1 2,923]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I haven’t forgotten anything. The Mueller investigation was a huge news story and was reported heavily as a result. Was it reported fairly? I think so. 

It was a huge liberal lie of a story. That's why they "reported" heavily on it. You liberals are simply broken. 

 

[seafoam1 2,923]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

This.  

There goal is not to inform.....not to hold power to account.....not to be a hedge against power....no sir....their goal is to get ratings......

...and to push their agenda secondly.

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

This.  

There goal is not to inform.....not to hold power to account.....not to be a hedge against power....no sir....their goal is to get ratings......

Well of course. 
But, as it happens, they do inform. 

[supermike80 1,887]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course. All newscasts have to decide what to report. Their main goal is ratings. 

Oh timmy.   

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

...and to push their agenda secondly.

Which is what exactly? 
 

If I owned MSNBC, and my goal was ONLY to make money, I would do everything in my power to try and help Trump win the election. You know why? Because Trump as President generates far more ratings than Biden does. Biden is dull. 
 

Thats why all is this “MSNBC wants to help Democrats win” is such nonsense. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

Spoken by someone who is truly concerned about the integrity of their product

 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I haven’t forgotten anything. The Mueller investigation was a huge news story and was reported heavily as a result. Was it reported fairly? I think so. 

For two years it was a known fact that this was based on a lie. And not once did they question the truth behind the story but pushed it to make it even bigger than it was

[RLLD 4,199]

6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

...and to push their agenda secondly.

This is also correct.  And it is not unique to any single outlet, they are all doing it. 

[RLLD 4,199]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well of course. 
But, as it happens, they do inform. 

To some extent, yes, they do inform.  In order to avoid the trappings of their bias one must now spend additional time consuming from a variety of sources and they will lie through omission and through colorization.

[seafoam1 2,923]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

This is also correct.  And it is not unique to any single outlet, they are all doing it. 

That doesn't change the fact that one side has got the better message than the other.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

For two years it was a known fact that this was based on a lie. And not once did they question the truth behind the story but pushed it to make it even bigger than it was

People seem to, or want to, forget that this garbage that was taken seriously by all of them contained the pee tape allegations. They wanted it so bad they couldn’t or wouldn’t see it for what it was. Despite knowing who paid for it. And they got John McCain who was riddled with brain cancer to give it legitimacy. They are unscrupulous zealots that just don’t GAF. 

[The Real timschochet 6,640]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

For two years it was a known fact that this was based on a lie. And not once did they question the truth behind the story but pushed it to make it even bigger than it was

This is a misrepresentation of what actually happened. I don’t want to derail the current discussion by going back into this but you’re completely off base here. 

[RLLD 4,199]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

That doesn't change the fact that one side has got the better message than the other.

Wellll....

The ratings at Fox have been better than the rest since it was discovered that the rest of media lied relentlessly about Russian Collusion, and clearly was carrying the water for government...and NOT holding it to account...

I might also submit that much of the propaganda emerging from Democrats that is being megaphoned by their media propogandists is clearly not working all that well.  

BUT.....you can only lie to people for so long, before reality overtakes your lies....and THAT is where these people are now....the lies no longer work.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

This is a misrepresentation of what actually happened. I don’t want to derail the current discussion by going back into this but you’re completely off base here. 

Pee tape. Riddled with  Easily verifiable complete fabrications. People meeting in countries that had never been to those countries, ever. And the list goes on. Why didn’t they at least separate the fact from fiction within? Nope. The whole thing was taken as some sort of legit piece of vetted intel. It wasn’t.  Wouldn’t cast doubt on it. 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is a misrepresentation of what actually happened. I don’t want to derail the current discussion by going back into this but you’re completely off base here. 

Baker for the win. 
 

when Timmy wants to stay on topic, you know he’s been defeated

[edjr 6,580]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

I like to make up my own mind on what is truth and I sure don’t want Rachel Meadows, deciding for me.

This is nothing More Than censorship under the GAYZ of righteousness.

 

[seafoam1 2,923]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Wellll....

The ratings at Fox have been better than the rest since it was discovered that the rest of media lied relentlessly about Russian Collusion, and clearly was carrying the water for government...and NOT holding it to account...

I might also submit that much of the propaganda emerging from Democrats that is being megaphoned by their media propogandists is clearly not working all that well.  

BUT.....you can only lie to people for so long, before reality overtakes your lies....and THAT is where these people are now....the lies no longer work.

Hence this thread. They are getting away from showing us Trump in his element and lying about what is right in front of our eyes, and now they are steering towards simply suppressing Trump's communications to the public, and are funneling and focusing ALL of their efforts solely into their feeble relentless attacks on him in the courtrooms across America. It's almost 9 years running now with the legal attacks, but now is the time they step it up in public eye since the public has grown numb to their sloppy efforts over the past years. They all gotta put some juice behind their efforts to get the public attacks rolling again. They may need a good white on black crime, blaming it on Trump, to restart their public outrage and pointed group anger at Trump.

[MDC 7,287]

Nobody who watches MSNBC was going to vote for Trump anyway.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,266]

I’m willing to bet that I have logged more hours watching MSNBC in the last twenty years than anyone here. Not CNN though. Never cared for them unless it was a breaking natural disaster or something like that. I would even stick around to watch that clown Lawrence O’Donnell. I liked Ed Shultz the most.