Joe Biden - Diminished Faculties—👀

[The Psychic Observer 498]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well Biden did. So I’m right there, and I think Trump had a right to the documents in his case. Is that so far fetched? It’s not a plausible defense? 

No, trump had no right to those documents.

[seafoam1 2,856]

3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

No, trump had no right to those documents.

You go girl. 

[Horseman 2,430]

He didnt cooperate!  That's the only difference!    

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

The Boyo boys don't understand that the President has different rules than the Vice Pres. or Senators.  In particular, Biden had classified docs from his time as a Senator which is about as big a violation as a government official can commit.  The reasoning for not prosecuting Biden is very reminiscent of the reasoning used for not prosecuting Hitlery. 

He’s on tape saying to his autobiographer, 'the classified documents are in the basement.' 

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

8 hours ago, Horseman said:

He didnt cooperate!  That's the only difference!    

Biden gave the documents back when asked, consented to a search and interview, and Hur concluded that he didn't have a case to make against him.

In Trumps case, he denied he had the files, wouldn't allow a search, he lied and obstructed and there is evidence he was showing Iran attack plans to people.  He lied about declassifying files, had files in his bathroom, all very bad.

So no the cooperation isn't the only difference.

[Maximum Overkill 1,840]

10 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

no right

 

 

[lickin_starfish 1,908]

I think that even though Potato is a decrepit old fukk, he should still be tried and hanged for his crimes.

[Maximum Overkill 1,840]

10 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

trump

 

It didn't just start recently, this is an older clip. 

 

 

[Reality 3,121]

But Trump, of course.

[Maximum Overkill 1,840]

9 minutes ago, Reality said:

But Trump, of course.

ORANGEMAN BAD! 

[Engorgeous George 2,231]

2 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Biden gave the documents back when asked, consented to a search and interview, and Hur concluded that he didn't have a case to make against him.

In Trumps case, he denied he had the files, wouldn't allow a search, he lied and obstructed and there is evidence he was showing Iran attack plans to people.  He lied about declassifying files, had files in his bathroom, all very bad.

So no the cooperation isn't the only difference.

Incorrect.

 

Biden's matter arose after Trump had been charged and so his response was a calculated one in light of that national story.  Biden had documents he had mishandled for fourty years.  He had documents in at least three unsecured locations for fourty years.  He had those documents moved around by staff and he shared them with at least his biographer.  When he was found out he made excuses such as they were secure because after all they were stored next to his corvette (the most disgusting color corvette available).  He then had his lawyers cull through the boxes and return the documents.We lawyers, being what we are, represent our client's versions of truth and maybe should not be trusted unless under oath, in court.  Three days later a search was done by the President's own Justice Department.  He then cooperated.  The Special Council examined the facts.  The Special Council found all of the elements of the crime well established, all of them.  the Special Counci lthen did something highly unusual.  He made a call that the criminal lacked the capacity to be put on trial and was so diminished a jury would have sympathy and do jury nullification.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Incorrect.

 

Biden's matter arose after Trump had been charged and so his response was a calculated one in light of that national story.  Biden had documents he had mishandled for fourty years.  He had documents in at least three unsecured locations for fourty years.  He had those documents moved around by staff and he shared them with at least his biographer.  When he was found out he made excuses such as they were secure because after all they were stored next to his corvette (the most disgusting color corvette available).  He then had his lawyers cull through the boxes and return the documents.We lawyers, being what we are, represent our client's versions of truth and maybe should not be trusted unless under oath, in court.  Three days later a search was done by the President's own Justice Department.  He then cooperated.  The Special Council examined the facts.  The Special Council found all of the elements of the crime well established, all of them.  the Special Counci lthen did something highly unusual.  He made a call that the criminal lacked the capacity to be put on trial and was so diminished a jury would have sympathy and do jury nullification.

You're a lawyer but can't spell forty?

[Engorgeous George 2,231]

13 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

You're a lawyer but can't spell forty?

So it would seem.  Do you feel you have scored some victory in pointing this out?  Perhaps some refutation of my summary?  I recall a typo by you just yesterday and I nearly pointed it out as it was funny.  I refrained, thinking to myself only bitchhes go that route.  Now here is proof of my assessment.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

6 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

So it would seem.  Do you feel you have scored some victory in pointing this out?  Perhaps some refutation of my summary?  I recall a typo by you just yesterday and I nearly pointed it out as it was funny.  I refrained, thinking to myself only bitchhes go that route.  Now here is proof of my assessment.

Was just making a funny, didn't think you would get butthurt.  Sorry.  But it's not a typo.  You typed it out twice.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,112]

28 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

You're a lawyer but can't spell forty?

Typical. 

[thegeneral 3,058]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Incorrect.

 

Biden's matter arose after Trump had been charged and so his response was a calculated one in light of that national story.  Biden had documents he had mishandled for fourty years.  He had documents in at least three unsecured locations for fourty years.  He had those documents moved around by staff and he shared them with at least his biographer.  When he was found out he made excuses such as they were secure because after all they were stored next to his corvette (the most disgusting color corvette available).  He then had his lawyers cull through the boxes and return the documents.We lawyers, being what we are, represent our client's versions of truth and maybe should not be trusted unless under oath, in court.  Three days later a search was done by the President's own Justice Department.  He then cooperated.  The Special Council examined the facts.  The Special Council found all of the elements of the crime well established, all of them.  the Special Counci lthen did something highly unusual.  He made a call that the criminal lacked the capacity to be put on trial and was so diminished a jury would have sympathy and do jury nullification.

Hur said that Biden’s handling of these docs and his actions did not warrant charges - even if he weren’t a sitting Prez. He states that point blank. Unless you are some deep state conspiracy guy that is the bottom line. The specifics of how Biden spoke about classified information is pretty dense and some lawyering is at play there but again Hur concluded that there isn’t enough there. 

Hur added commentary as to how a jury might find Biden. Very political damaging language was chosen. The deep state isn’t doing Biden favors with this. 

Hur also spoke as to why Trump was charged. Trump did this to himself despite not being “an elderly man” like Hur called Biden and Don being a super stable genius and all. 

Don did this to himself because he’s a dope who can’t help himself from talking nonstop. But I guess why not - he’s rarely held accountable by his super fanboys so he’s developed bad, sloppy habits. 

[Engorgeous George 2,231]

33 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Was just making a funny, didn't think you would get butthurt.  Sorry.  But it's not a typo.  You typed it out twice.

I did not say mine was a typo, I said yours was.  I equated two different types of mistakes.  As for butthurt, no, I was just returning a comment since you invited that return.

[Engorgeous George 2,231]

14 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Hur said that Biden’s handling of these docs and his actions did not warrant charges - even if he weren’t a sitting Prez. He states that point blank. Unless you are some deep state conspiracy guy that is the bottom line. The specifics of how Biden spoke about classified information is pretty dense and some lawyering is at play there but again Hur concluded that there isn’t enough there. 

Hur added commentary as to how a jury might find Biden. Very political damaging language was chosen. The deep state isn’t doing Biden favors with this. 

Hur also spoke as to why Trump was charged. Trump did this to himself despite not being “an elderly man” like Hur called Biden and Don being a super stable genius and all. 

Don did this to himself because he’s a dope who can’t help himself from talking nonstop. But I guess why not - he’s rarely held accountable by his super fanboys so he’s developed bad, sloppy habits. 

I never defended Trump.  You can try to deflect to that, but I never went there.  Trump's narcisistic ego, his absolute inability to conform or to appreciate the viewpoints of others got him in trouble.  The documents case is not the first time nor will it be the last.  I believe his narcisism is so pathelogical he is not merely neurotic, but psychotic and he should be nowhere near the Oval Office, not even as janitorial staff.

 

That said, you are grasping at sentence fragments taken out of context.  All of the elements of the crime are easily provable and it extended over decades according to the report.  Hur was not looking at that in his final recommendation, rather he was looking at the concepts, which he intertwined, of criminal culpablity, the ability to participate meaningfully in one's own defense, and jury nullification.  His report will be the subject of numerous papers once we get past the political moment and into analyzing it for what it is.  Not political analysis by blind partisans, but legall analysis by first blind partisan legal scholars, but eventually just by interested legal scholars. 

[thegeneral 3,058]

5 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I never defended Trump.  You can try to deflect to that, but I never went there.  Trump's narcisistic ego, his absolute inability to conform or to appreciate the viewpoints of others got him in trouble.  The documents case is not the first time nor will it be the last.  I believe his narcisism is so pathelogical he is not merely neurotic, but psychotic and he should be nowhere near the Oval Office, not even as janitorial staff.

 

That said, you are grasping at sentence fragments taken out of context.  All of the elements of the crime are easily provable and it extended over decades according to the report.  Hur was not looking at that in his final recommendation, rather he was looking at the concepts, which he intertwined, of criminal culpablity, the ability to participate meaningfully in one's own defense, and jury nullification.  His report will be the subject of numerous papers once we get past the political moment and into analyzing it for what it is.  Not political analysis by blind partisans, but legall analysis by first blind partisan legal scholars, but eventually just by interested legal scholars. 

Is your point that Biden should have been charged and is not?

[Engorgeous George 2,231]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Is your point that Biden should have been charged and is not?

Nope.  my point is that the contents of the report are being lied about with the hope that the lie, if repeated often enough, will rewrite the report in the minds of the people.

 

The report should have simply stated the elements of the crime are established by the following facts and then summarized or listed those facts in detail.  The report should have noted that we do not charge sitting Presidents, historically and he therefore recommended against doing so at this time.  Once President Biden is no longer a sitting President the assigned prosecutor would have been asked, at that time, to make a call on filing.  That call, at that time, could have taken into consideration Biden's mentation, at that time.  More appropriately the prosecutor should have charged, at that time, once biden is out of Office, the defense should have raised the issue of his competency with the court, and the court should have ordered a psychological evaluation to determine the outcome after a hearing on the matter.  Hur took matters into his hands which properly are the province of others.

[thegeneral 3,058]

19 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Nope.  my point is that the contents of the report are being lied about with the hope that the lie, if repeated often enough, will rewrite the report in the minds of the people.

 

The report should have simply stated the elements of the crime are established by the following facts and then summarized or listed those facts in detail.  The report should have noted that we do not charge sitting Presidents, historically and he therefore recommended against doing so at this time.  Once President Biden is no longer a sitting President the assigned prosecutor would have been asked, at that time, to make a call on filing.  That call, at that time, could have taken into consideration Biden's mentation, at that time.  More appropriately the prosecutor should have charged, at that time, once biden is out of Office, the defense should have raised the issue of his competency with the court, and the court should have ordered a psychological evaluation to determine the outcome after a hearing on the matter.  Hur took matters into his hands which properly are the province of others.

It did mention that sitting Prez’s cannot be charged.

Hur laid out to why there was not enough there to warrant charges. In particular he got very into the weeds on why the communication with the ghost writer and the moving of the documents Biden and how there was plausible deniability or some such lawyer language I don’t recall at the moment.

Of course there were political statements made in the report, by nature will be political no matter how it is written. Observations put into this report are very damaging to Biden - ad well as drawing distinction to Trump’s case which was helpful to Biden.

I don’t know if there is some playbook here but “sentence fragments” would be taken regardless of how the findings were presented. The explanations I have heard from various talking heads is essentially that editing is hard and more is not less so put it all in when in doubt. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,112]

Crimes were clearly laid out. He’s just too feeble to be made to answer for them.  

[The Psychic Observer 498]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Crimes were clearly laid out. He’s just too feeble to be made to answer for them.  

That was hur's opinion, not a legal finding.  Hur being a trump appointed maga Republican.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,112]

4 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

That was hur's opinion, not a legal finding.  Hur being a trump appointed maga Republican.

Garland has final say. He approved it. Suck it. 

[Engorgeous George 2,231]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

It did mention that sitting Prez’s cannot be charged.

Hur laid out to why there was not enough there to warrant charges. In particular he got very into the weeds on why the communication with the ghost writer and the moving of the documents Biden and how there was plausible deniability or some such lawyer language I don’t recall at the moment.

Of course there were political statements made in the report, by nature will be political no matter how it is written. Observations put into this report are very damaging to Biden - ad well as drawing distinction to Trump’s case which was helpful to Biden.

I don’t know if there is some playbook here but “sentence fragments” would be taken regardless of how the findings were presented. The explanations I have heard from various talking heads is essentially that editing is hard and more is not less so put it all in when in doubt. 

Donny, you're out of your element (youtube.com)

[thegeneral 3,058]

5 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Donny, you're out of your element (youtube.com)

The dude

[seafoam1 2,856]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The dude

the pedo

 

[thegeneral 3,058]

Peefoam, the reigning champ of biggest dope on Geek Club for 2023, well into his 2024 campaign I see

[seafoam1 2,856]

16 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

No, trump had no right to those documents.

 Stupid liberal says what?

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[Strike 5,327]

Just a reminder that Hamas still has a number of American hostages, unless they're already dead.  Ever hear Biden or his administration mention them?  Nope.  Is he doing anything to save them?  Nope.  If they played in the WNBA he sure as hell would though.  All while chastising Israel for protecting itself.  

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

33 minutes ago, Strike said:

Just a reminder that Hamas still has a number of American hostages, unless they're already dead.  Ever hear Biden or his administration mention them?  Nope.  Is he doing anything to save them?  Nope.  If they played in the WNBA he sure as hell would though.  All while chastising Israel for protecting itself.  

This is almost 100% wrong, as usual. Biden and the USA was trying to work out a deal with Hamas through Qatar which would have involved the release of all the remaining hostages, but it would have involved Israel having to free many imprisoned terrorists. Israel refused. Biden is criticizing Israel for expanding the war without significant results and for not having any kind of plan for what happens after all of Gaza’s infrastructure has been destroyed, without effectively destroying Hamas. These are legitimate criticisms; Netanyahu is doing nothing to make Israel safer long term; in fact he is making things worse. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,112]

The IDF just rescued two hostages. After the Biden admin told them to slow down. Good job out of Israel for putting Israel first. Must be nice.  

[Strike 5,327]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is almost 100% wrong, as usual. Biden and the USA was trying to work out a deal with Hamas through Qatar which would have involved the release of all the remaining hostages, but it would have involved Israel having to free many imprisoned terrorists. Israel refused. Biden is criticizing Israel for expanding the war without significant results and for not having any kind of plan for what happens after all of Gaza’s infrastructure has been destroyed, without effectively destroying Hamas. These are legitimate criticisms; Netanyahu is doing nothing to make Israel safer long term; in fact he is making things worse. 

Links?  I haven't heard him or anyone from his administration mention our hostages since last year.  Regardless, he doesn't need Israel to go get our hostages.  He's just horrible on this, just like he is with the Houthis.  He's as much of a foreign policy poosey as Carter was, and the world knows it. 

[Strike 5,327]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The IDF just rescued two hostages. After the Biden admin told them to slow down. Good job out of Israel for putting Israel first. Must be nice.  

Yep.  Meanwhile, Biden is bending over to Muslim terrorist supporters in MIchigan because he's afraid of losing that state to Trump.

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

33 minutes ago, Strike said:

Links?  I haven't heard him or anyone from his administration mention our hostages since last year.  Regardless, he doesn't need Israel to go get our hostages.  He's just horrible on this, just like he is with the Houthis.  He's as much of a foreign policy poosey as Carter was, and the world knows it. 

Bullsh!t. He’s a thousand times tougher, and wiser, than Trump would ever be. Get some reality into your world for once. Your view on this is warped with no bearing on what’s actually happening. 

[Strike 5,327]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Bullsh!t. He’s a thousand times tougher, and wiser, than Trump would ever be. Get some reality into your world for once. Your view on this is warped with no bearing on what’s actually happening. 

How many Americans have to die before you put the slightest amount of blame on Biden?

[Maximum Overkill 1,840]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Bullsh!t. He’s a thousand times tougher, and wiser, than Trump

Tim, how do you even write this stuff with a straight face? Being a Liberal you've obviously mastered the art of deflection, but even for you this is a stretch. Be honest with yourself. 

Biden is the laughing stock of the World. He can't complete a thought, walk in a straight line, climb steps or eat solid foods. Is anything I said untrue? 

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

Trump just told the world he would encourage Russia to attack NATO and this is better foreign policy than Biden?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,112]

Trump made NATO stronger than ever. He also gave Ukraine missiles, Biden and Obama gave them blankets.