California grandfather fatally shot while trying to apologize for fender bender at Walmart

[seafoam1 3,049]

29 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

You new here?

Don’t get your panties in a twist. Just a joke. Nothing to wish death on another Geek over or anything.

Although, lets explore that you would not be so offended if grandpa were black.

Or if the shooter were white, while we’re at it.

The shooter, yet again, wasn't white.

[MDC 7,458]

On 2/15/2024 at 12:57 PM, TheNewGirl said:

That's not nice. 

Par for the course with him.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,467]

18 minutes ago, MDC said:

Par for the course with him.

Waaaaa. Soft. 

[zsasz 369]

Stand your ground?

As a 2nd Amendment supporter,  we shouldn't jump to conclusions on this one.  

[peenie 1,915]

On 2/14/2024 at 7:46 PM, cyclone24 said:

Same. I would love for someone to make the argument that in this country Black people are a net positive. I don’t seriously think you can.

They were a net positive for this entire hemisphere for centuries. Your people couldn’t stop shipping us here. Today, you certainly enjoy watching blacks play sports. 

[seafoam1 3,049]

43 minutes ago, peenie said:

They were a net positive for this entire hemisphere for centuries. Your people couldn’t stop shipping us here. Today, you certainly enjoy watching blacks play sports. 

If you want to play that game then, you people couldn't stop enslaving your own people and then selling them off to the world. 

[seafoam1 3,049]

6 minutes ago, peenie said:

They were a net positive for this entire hemisphere for centuries. Your people couldn’t stop shipping us here. Today, you certainly enjoy watching blacks play sports. 

Slavery in the Sahel region (and to a lesser extent the Horn of Africa) exists along the racial and cultural boundary of Arabized Berbers in the north and darker Africans in the south.^[8] Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude.^[9] Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.^[10] There are other, non-traditional forms of slavery in Africa today, mostly involving human trafficking and the enslavement of child soldiers and child labourers, e.g. human trafficking in Angola, and human trafficking of children from Togo, Benin and Nigeria to Gabon and Cameroon.^[11][12]

Modern day slavery in Africa according to the Anti-Slavery Society includes exploitation of subjugate populations even when their condition is not technically called "slavery":^[13][14][15]

Although this exploitation is often not called slavery, the conditions are the same. People are sold like objects, forced to work for little or no pay and are at the mercy of their "employers".

— Antislavery Society, What is Modern Slavery?

Forced labor in Sub-Saharan Africa^[16] is estimated at 660,000.^[17] This includes people involved in the illegal diamond mines of Sierra Leone and Liberia, which is also a direct result of the civil wars in these regions.^[18] In 2017, the International Labour Office estimated that 7 in every 1,000 people in Africa are victims of slavery.^[19]

[MLCKAA 575]

Must’ve scratched one of her rims.

[MLCKAA 575]

42 minutes ago, peenie said:

They were a net positive for this entire hemisphere for centuries. Your people couldn’t stop shipping us here. Today, you certainly enjoy watching blacks play sports. 

You should dig in a little bit about who was selling whom at the first link in the chain.  Americans weren’t going on slaving incursions into Africa and the Caribbean.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

17 minutes ago, MLCKAA said:

You should dig in a little bit about who was selling whom at the first link in the chain.  Americans weren’t going on slaving incursions into Africa and the Caribbean.

Excactly.  The slaves wee being rounded up by other black tribes trying to get rid of their rivals to steal their land and riches.   Y'know, the same sh#t they accuse "The White Man" of doing.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

1 hour ago, peenie said:

They were a net positive for this entire hemisphere for centuries. Your people couldn’t stop shipping us here. Today, you certainly enjoy watching blacks play sports. 

Serious question:  Do you actually know any history at all?  Or do you just parrot what you're told?  Seriously, you need to look into the whole slave trade and who was "enslaving" whom.  Note: It wasn't just "The White Man" and it certainly didn't start with them either.  Slavery has been around for more than 5000 years - long before "The White Man" was even a thing.  And the only reason we don't know if it was happening before that is because written history didn't start until about 3000 BCE.

[seafoam1 3,049]

10 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Serious question:  Do you actually know any history at all?  Or do you just parrot what you're told?  Seriously, you need to look into the whole slave trade and who was "enslaving" whom.  Note: It wasn't just "The White Man" and it certainly didn't start with them either.  Slavery has been around for more than 5000 years - long before "The White Man" was even a thing.  And the only reason we don't know if it was happening before that is because written history didn't start until about 3000 BCE.

It's actually amazing how the whities took control and abolished slavery in this country. And until obama focked up with his 8.year push for identity politics people in this country were actualizing the 1980s "dream" of not seeing color in everyday life circumstances. Thanks obama for focking that up and reinstigating racial hatred. We will never recover from that cacksucker. So race hate is here to stay. And it's fine with me.

peenie is clueless and a victim of the democrat party. 

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14 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Excactly.  The slaves wee being rounded up by other black tribes trying to get rid of their rivals to steal their land and riches.   Y'know, the same sh#t they accuse "The White Man" of doing.

As Public Enemy put it in “Can’t Truss It”

King and chief probably had a big beef 
Because of dat now I grit my teeth 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,467]

I think of all the young union soldiers that died in the civil war, many of horrible reasons like gang green, to free their fellow man, and how ungrateful people are for it. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I think of all the young union soldiers that died in the civil war, many of horrible reasons like gang green, to free their fellow man, and how ungrateful people are for it. 

I'm guessing if all of those who died trying to abolish the slave trade were to magically come back today and see how ungrateful, disingenuous and totally revising history the American Left is, they'd probably say (in 1860), "Y'know, everything's just fine" and we'd never would have had a Civil War to begin with.

[seafoam1 3,049]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I'm guessing if all of those who died trying to abolish the slave trade were to magically come back today and see how ungrateful, disingenuous and totally revising history the American Left is, they'd probably say, "Y'know, everything's just fine" and we'd never would have had a Civil War to begin with.

Careful. If you keep telling the truth you'll be outed as a racist. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

 

[peenie 1,915]

Europeans purchased Africans in Africa from Africans and shipped them over to the Americas and the Caribbean as slaves. There were some Arabs who were involved on a  smaller scale as well. 
I don’t need an education about it. 
They were very useful and profitable for all involved. Stop complaining. If blacks were treated better historically and even today, they’re wouldn’t be such disparities. 

Even with this story, if the colors were reversed you’d be siding with the white woman who shot the scary black man who hit her car and was walking toward her because she thought she was about to be killed or robbed.

I guess black women aren’t allowed to be afraid.

I’m against using deadly force and all that stand your ground BS. I just find it hypocritical that you all seem to see nothing wrong with it until people of color use it as a defense.

Once again, not defending her, just noting that you made no attempt to see her point of view. 

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58 minutes ago, peenie said:

 

Even with this story, if the colors were reversed you’d be siding with the white woman who shot the scary black man who hit her car and was walking toward her because she thought she was about to be killed or robbed.

 

No, we wouldn't.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Imagine if the colors were reversed.  We’d be gettin ready for another Summer of Love.

[seafoam1 3,049]

2 hours ago, peenie said:

Europeans purchased Africans in Africa from Africans and shipped them over to the Americas and the Caribbean as slaves. There were some Arabs who were involved on a  smaller scale as well. 
I don’t need an education about it. 

This is the problem with stupid people...

[peenie 1,915]

11 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

This is the problem with stupid people...

You’re the only stupid person around here. Others have made entire threads about you and much they dislike you. Worry about that. You can’t educate ME about slavery. I’m the product of slavery all sides. 
Come up with some facts instead of insults. I’ll be waiting. 

[seafoam1 3,049]

7 minutes ago, peenie said:

You’re the only stupid person around here. Others have made entire threads about you and much they dislike you. Worry about that. You can’t educate ME about slavery. I’m the product of slavery all sides. 
Come up with some facts instead of insults. I’ll be waiting. 

Oh no. Whatever will I do? 

And you are flat out ignorant. You know nothing about history. You are a fool who deserves what she gets. Anger and hatred. 

[peenie 1,915]

2 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Oh no. Whatever will I do? 

And you are flat out ignorant. You know nothing about history. You are a fool who deserves what she gets. Anger and hatred. 

Clearly, I’m not the one who is angry around here. Go buy your gold sneakers. 

[seafoam1 3,049]

1 minute ago, peenie said:

Clearly, I’m not the one who is angry around here. Go buy your gold sneakers. 

I'm very content in life. You were the one bltching. 

Why would I want ghetto shoes?

[peenie 1,915]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

I'm very content in life. You were the one bltching. 

Why would I want ghetto shoes?

Because your father is selling them.

[seafoam1 3,049]

Just now, peenie said:

Because your father is selling them.

How is my dad selling them?

[seafoam1 3,049]

6 minutes ago, peenie said:

Because your father is selling them.

My dad hated the ghetto. He was smart. Put us kids in all white schools.

[HellToupee 1,786]

She’s angry looking 

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2024/02/shawntece-marie-norton-shoots-dead-jonathan-mauk-highland-walmart-parking-lot/

[HellToupee 1,786]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

My dad hated the ghetto. He was smart. Put us kids in all white schools.

my parents kept me out of public schools and my wife and I did the same with our kids

[seafoam1 3,049]

Just now, HellToupee said:

She’s angry looking 

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2024/02/shawntece-marie-norton-shoots-dead-jonathan-mauk-highland-walmart-parking-lot/

Why she's not capital punished already is a crime in itself. 

[seafoam1 3,049]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

my parents kept me out of public schools and my wife and I did the same with our kids

The best route to happiness and wellness for the kids. 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

16 hours ago, peenie said:

Europeans purchased Africans in Africa from Africans and shipped them over to the Americas and the Caribbean as slaves. There were some Arabs who were involved on a  smaller scale as well. 
I don’t need an education about it. 
They were very useful and profitable for all involved. Stop complaining. If blacks were treated better historically and even today, they’re wouldn’t be such disparities. 

Even with this story, if the colors were reversed you’d be siding with the white woman who shot the scary black man who hit her car and was walking toward her because she thought she was about to be killed or robbed.

I guess black women aren’t allowed to be afraid.

I’m against using deadly force and all that stand your ground BS. I just find it hypocritical that you all seem to see nothing wrong with it until people of color use it as a defense.

Once again, not defending her, just noting that you made no attempt to see her point of view. 

i have a hard time seeing the point of view of someone who shot a person over a scratched bumper.  I can't get to issues such as race when the action is beyond the pale of reasons or rationalizations.  I am going to take the position that regardless of race or gender of the participatants including regardless of fault, apologies should be made and accepted, physical health should be checked on, insurance infomation should be exchanged, and everybody should go home to their families, not some to the morgue and some to jail.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,467]

Sounds like it happened pretty quick. The violence. 

[seafoam1 3,049]

3 hours ago, peenie said:

You’re the only stupid person around here. Others have made entire threads about you and much they dislike you. Worry about that. You can’t educate ME about slavery. I’m the product of slavery all sides. 
Come up with some facts instead of insults. I’ll be waiting. 

[Nomad99 748]

3 hours ago, peenie said:

You’re the only stupid person around here. Others have made entire threads about you and much they dislike you. Worry about that. You can’t educate ME about slavery. I’m the product of slavery all sides. 
Come up with some facts instead of insults. I’ll be waiting. 

It's obvious that WE can't educate YOU on slavery. If we could, you would be forced to apologize for a practice YOUR ancestors freely took part in.

[peenie 1,915]

1 hour ago, Nomad99 said:

It's obvious that WE can't educate YOU on slavery. If we could, you would be forced to apologize for a practice YOUR ancestors freely took part in.

Here’s the thing. Someone, not me, complained that all black people, not just black criminals, but all black people have had no purpose and why were we here. A poster earlier made this comment. I RESPONDED that your ancestors purchased us and brought us here. We worked for free for centuries and made the Americas, the Caribbean and Europe rich. Sadly, we were mistreated and many of us (but not most) live lives of struggle and inequality. 
Not sure where you misunderstood my reply but Africans and Arabs sold slaves and some still do in this day sell slaves. 
I’m waiting for any of you to educate ME, please, I’m waiting still……

[HellToupee 1,786]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sounds like it happened pretty quick. The violence. 

That broad started blasting like she was in the wire

[HellToupee 1,786]

4 minutes ago, peenie said:

RESPONDED that your ancestors purchased us and brought us here

You’re talking ragtime.My ancestors arrived in indentured servitude 

[seafoam1 3,049]

24 minutes ago, peenie said:

Here’s the thing. Someone, not me, complained that all black people, not just black criminals, but all black people have had no purpose and why were we here. A poster earlier made this comment. I RESPONDED that your ancestors purchased us and brought us here. We worked for free for centuries and made the Americas, the Caribbean and Europe rich. Sadly, we were mistreated and many of us (but not most) live lives of struggle and inequality. 
Not sure where you misunderstood my reply but Africans and Arabs sold slaves and some still do in this day sell slaves. 
I’m waiting for any of you to educate ME, please, I’m waiting still……

Who purchased you?