jonmx 1,594 Posted March 5 11 minutes ago, Fnord said: This guy will vote for Donald Trump. Anyone else see the disconnect? Are you serious too stupid to see all the rich authoritarian bastards lined up to do everything in their power and utilizing the puppet strings of federal agencies and local DA's to try to take down Trump? Being rich does does not make you an authoritarian bastard. Authoritarian bastards are the ones beating the drum for wars, wanting to control energy, food supplies, information access, medical treatments, education, and media. The leftist authoritarians has systematically gotten theor tentacles into all of those and are eliminating every freedom we have. Trump is trying to cut those tentacles so we can return to being a free society. But bootlickers like you are too f-ing stupid to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,141 Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, jonmx said: Trump is trying to cut those tentacles so we can return to being a free society. But bootlickers like you are too f-ing stupid to see it. You think this but call me stupid. Good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,594 Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, Fnord said: You think this but call me stupid. Good one. I am not calling you stupid. You are stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,141 Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, jonmx said: I am not calling you stupid. You are stupid. Ok, Mr. Terrorist-in-waiting. I know some people that could arrange administration and comparison of IQ test results. Wanna put your money where you're slack jawed mouth is, Clarence? I'd be willing to go at least a grand that I score higher than you; likely at least one standard deviation. I'll even give you odds, MAGAMOOK. Better yet, these same folks could arrange for some personality tests for you which would show the specific mental areas in which you need clinical help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 Steve Garvey appears to be doing very well early. And that is good for Schiff. Schiff didn’t want to face Katie Porter. Facing Garvey guarantees Schiff the senate seat, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 The votes for Haley are still around 25-30% in each state Trump is winning, even in the closed primary states where Dems can’t vote. The obvious question is how many of these folks will vote for Trump in November. If at least half of them vote for Biden or stay home in the swing states, Trump is in deep trouble. But there’s no way to predict this right now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Steve Garvey appears to be doing very well early. And that is good for Schiff. Schiff didn’t want to face Katie Porter. Facing Garvey guarantees Schiff the senate seat, Update- and it is Steve Garvey! So Adam Schiff will be our next Senator. Not bad. I will miss Katie Porter in the House. Hopefully she returns in 2026. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 57 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: Lol@ missing porter. She’s a good woman. I met her at a pro-abortion rally last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 113 Posted March 6 Imagine being happy that Adam Schiff will likely be your next Senator and imagine going to an abortion rally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 12 minutes ago, Beaker15 said: Imagine being happy that Adam Schiff will likely be your next Senator and imagine going to an abortion rally. You can say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one. (Which you will discover, to your regret, this November.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 So Haley’s out, Hopefully for those who haven’t been paying attention, this will crystallize the stark choice we have before us: it’s Biden or Trump. That’s it; there are no other options. The sooner the American people fully realize and accept this, the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You can say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one. (Which you will discover, to your regret, this November.) Schiff is god awful no wonder you like him. Biggest pos in congress. You probably like swalwell too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,895 Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: So Haley’s out, Hopefully for those who haven’t been paying attention, this will crystallize the stark choice we have before us: it’s Biden or Trump. That’s it; there are no other options. The sooner the American people fully realize and accept this, the better. There are several 3rd party candidates and the option to not vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Schiff is god awful no wonder you like him. Biggest pos in congress. You probably like swalwell too He’s alright. I don’t mind him. He’s got integrity for sure. But Schiff is in a different league. Smart, eloquent, incisive, far seeing, and generally right on the important stuff. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, MDC said: There are several 3rd party candidates and the option to not vote. Right. People now need to realize that voting for any 3rd party candidate is meaningless unless it’s in a swing state, and then it’s a vote for Trump. And not voting is meaningless unless it’s in a swing state and then it’s a vote for Trump with a few exceptions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,895 Posted March 6 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Right. People now need to realize that voting for any 3rd party candidate is meaningless unless it’s in a swing state, and then it’s a vote for Trump. And not voting is meaningless unless it’s in a swing state and then it’s a vote for Trump. You’ve been trained well by the Democratic Party to reflexively vote for whoever they put forward no matter how bad. This is exactly how candidates as bad as Trump and Biden can count on 40-45% of the electorate to back them no matter what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: He’s alright. I don’t mind him. He’s got integrity for sure. But Schiff is in a different league. Smart, eloquent, incisive, far seeing, and generally right on the important stuff. You think the dude who was banging a Chinese spy has integrity man’s off course you think that about schiff he has the same level of tds as you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, MDC said: You’ve been trained well by the Democratic Party to reflexively vote for whoever they put forward no matter how bad. This is exactly how candidates as bad as Trump and Biden can count on 40-45% of the electorate to back them no matter what. This isn’t a good description of me as in the past I’ve rarely voted for the Democratic Party, or any party consistently. Honestly I’ve been pretty middle of the road. But Donald Trump has taken the Republican Party and turned it into something I don’t recognize and detest. Perhaps it was always that way, I don’t know. But I can’t support a party that is xenophobic, isolationist, anti-immigrant and anti-trade. I won’t do it, their beliefs go against everything that I fundamentally believe in. So for the foreseeable future I will be voting Democratic all up and down the ticket. When and if the GOP becomes the party of Reagan again, I’ll reconsider. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,895 Posted March 6 Just now, The Real timschochet said: This isn’t a good description of me as in the past I’ve rarely voted for the Democratic Party, or any party consistently. Honestly I’ve been pretty middle of the road. But Donald Trump has taken the Republican Party and turned it into something I don’t recognize and detest. Perhaps it was always that way, I don’t know. But I can’t support a party that is xenophobic, isolationist, anti-immigrant and anti-trade. I won’t do it, their beliefs go against everything that I fundamentally believe in. So for the foreseeable future I will be voting Democratic all up and down the ticket. When and if the GOP becomes the party of Reagan again, I’ll reconsider. The part I object to is that a vote for a 3rd party candidate is a vote for Trump. That’s only true if the Democratic Party owns your vote in the first place. I haven’t been a registered Dem for a long time. If I were invested in the future of that party I’d probably hope for a Trump win. He’ll have the worst 2nd term you’ve ever seen and wreck the GOP brand for a decade like W did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 9 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: You think the dude who was banging a Chinese spy has integrity man’s off course you think that about schiff he has the same level of tds as you 1. Yes I think Swalwell has integrity. 2. Donald Trump is now the de facto Republican nominee for President. He represents an existential threat IMO to the future of this country as a free democratic republic. Therefore I don’t think any amount of attention paid to him right now is excessive. When Trump is out of politics and in prison where he belongs, rest assured I’ll stop thinking about him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, MDC said: The part I object to is that a vote for a 3rd party candidate is a vote for Trump. That’s only true if the Democratic Party owns your vote in the first place. I haven’t been a registered Dem for a long time. If I were invested in the future of that party I’d probably hope for a Trump win. He’ll have the worst 2nd term you’ve ever seen and wreck the GOP brand for a decade like W did. Your first point is only true in a swing state. But I do believe that in a swing state it IS true. In most elections it wouldn’t matter. In 2000, for example, votes for Ralph Nader in Florida helped George W Bush defeat Al Gore. So what? i didn’t care. If folks want to vote for Nader that’s their right. But this election is different because IMO Trump represents an existential threat. So I think it should be all hands on deck. I completely reject your second point. Fock the Democratic Party. I never hope for bad things to happen so that the guys I like better might win later on. That’s Trumpian thinking and I frigging hate it. There were liberals during Trump’s last time as President who wanted the economy to fail so that Trump would lose in 2020. There were liberals who were happy that Covid was such a disaster and Trump was so inept because they hoped it meant that Biden would defeat him. Fock all of them, if Trump wins this time around, I agree with you that it will likely be a catastrophe. But I won’t be rooting for it. If he wins I will wish him well and honestly hope, as I did last time, that his actions bring us prosperity and good things. Because to me that’s what being an American is all about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,895 Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Your first point is only true in a swing state. But I do believe that in a swing state it IS true. In most elections it wouldn’t matter. In 2000, for example, votes for Ralph Nader in Florida helped George W Bush defeat Al Gore. So what? i didn’t care. If folks want to vote for Nader that’s their right. But this election is different because IMO Trump represents an existential threat. So I think it should be all hands on deck. I completely reject your second point. Fock the Democratic Party. I never hope for bad things to happen so that the guys I like better might win later on. That’s Trumpian thinking and I frigging hate it. There were liberals during Trump’s last time as President who wanted the economy to fail so that Trump would lose in 2020. There were liberals who were happy that Covid was such a disaster and Trump was so inept because they hoped it meant that Biden would defeat him. Fock all of them, if Trump wins this time around, I agree with you that it will likely be a catastrophe. But I won’t be rooting for it. If he wins I will wish him well and honestly hope, as I did last time, that his actions bring us prosperity and good things. Because to me that’s what being an American is all about. You should read this article on the 2000 election in Florida. https://www.salon.com/2000/11/28/hightower/ 24,000 registered Dems in Florida voted for Nader. 308,000 registered Dems in FL voted for BUSH! Yeah it’s his fault. I’m not rooting for bad things to happen if Trump wins. Bad things almost certainly will happen no matter what I’m hoping for because these candidates SUCK. I’m just saying, the party that does win this election is going to “enjoy” a terrible next term. If you were purely rooting for a side here (I’m not) you’d be better off building a bench roster of non elderly leadership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted March 6 31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: 1. Yes I think Swalwell has integrity. 2. Donald Trump is now the de facto Republican nominee for President. He represents an existential threat IMO to the future of this country as a free democratic republic. Therefore I don’t think any amount of attention paid to him right now is excessive. When Trump is out of politics and in prison where he belongs, rest assured I’ll stop thinking about him. you are seriously delusional you never will, even if Trump died you'd still be like this, it would just change to the maga party, I mean you probably are like Bill Maher and think that the call for ending democracy at CPAC was real Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 1,141 Posted March 6 31 minutes ago, MDC said: The part I object to is that a vote for a 3rd party candidate is a vote for Trump. That’s only true if the Democratic Party owns your vote in the first place. I haven’t been a registered Dem for a long time. If I were invested in the future of that party I’d probably hope for a Trump win. He’ll have the worst 2nd term you’ve ever seen and wreck the GOP brand for a decade like W did. Unfortunately, the damage he will cause will go far beyond the Gathering Of Pantywaists. Scorched earth constitutional crises will proliferate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 As I wrote last night Adam Schiff will win easily. But his opponent Steve Garvey is a boyhood hero of mine, so now I have the excuse to post some fond memories: Steve, you could lose a thousand elections, you could pose with Donald Trump (that will likely happen), you could be MAGA all day and I will always love you. Why aren’t you in the Hall of Fame? Thats a travesty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,594 Posted March 6 26 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you are seriously delusional you never will, even if Trump died you'd still be like this, it would just change to the maga party, I mean you probably are like Bill Maher and think that the call for ending democracy at CPAC was real Our Democracy was destroyed in 2020 when numerous federal agencies used their power to put their weight on the scales and tipped the election to Biden. Their power in getting legitimate news stories censored, impacting internet search results, and feeding false stories to their media allies was worth more than what $1 billion in advertising could buy. This without questioned changed the outcome of a very close election as corrupt federal agencies in violation of law bought the election for Biden. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,594 Posted March 6 The lefties love their censorship. Seriously, do any of you leftist dumfuks give a crap about any of the freedoms and rights enermarated in our Constitution. Free Speech, Property rights, Due Process, Self-Defense, privacy, limits to government power, equal protection....anything??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 898 Posted March 6 Just now, jonmx said: The lefties love their censorship. Seriously, do any of you leftist dumfuks give a crap about any of the freedoms and rights enermarated in our Constitution. Free Speech, Property rights, Due Process, Self-Defense, privacy, limits to government power, equal protection....anything??? Yeah, they keep getting all those books banned in schools...oh, wait... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,594 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, squistion said: Yeah, they keep getting all those books banned in schools...oh, wait... Elementary schools are not platforms for free speech. Banning or restricting the sales and distribution of books would be censorship. A librarian who wants to peddle porn to young children is not protected speech. It is government indoctrination. Public employees, whether teachers or librarians are public servants and do not have free speech while on the clock. They have free speech when they are not working. The first Amendment protects speech in the press, public platforms, private individuals, and churches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Fnord said: Unfortunately, the damage he will cause will go far beyond the Gathering Of Pantywaists. Scorched earth constitutional crises will proliferate. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 898 Posted March 6 Just now, jonmx said: Elementary schools are not platforms for free speech. Banning or restricting the sales and distribution of books would be censorship. A librarian who wants to peddle porn to young children is not protected speech. It is government indoctrination. Public employees, whether teachers or librarians are public servants and do not have free speech while on the clock. They have free speech when they are not working. The first Amendment protects speech in the press, public platforms, private individuals, and churches. We are not just talking elementary schools. In fact, very few of the books that have been banned were even available to elementary school kids in the first place (and those that were, were rather innocuous like the one about two male penguins who raise an orphan baby penguin). They want the books banned at the High School level, so that kids can't access or read the books at all if they want to (which were not even part of any required classroom curriculum, from what I've seen). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,594 Posted March 6 7 minutes ago, squistion said: We are not just talking elementary schools. In fact, very few of the books that have been banned were even available to elementary school kids in the first place (and those that were, were rather innocuous like the one about two male penguins who raise an orphan baby penguin). They want the books banned at the High School level, so that kids can't access or read the books at all if they want to (which were not even part of any required classroom curriculum, from what I've seen). It applies just as much to middle and high schools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 898 Posted March 6 19 minutes ago, jonmx said: It applies just as much to middle and high schools. And it is censorship and not by liberals no matter how you try to spin it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 1 hour ago, jonmx said: Seriously, do any of you leftist dumfuks give a crap about any of the freedoms and rights enermarated in our Constitution. Free Speech, Property rights, Due Process, Self-Defense, privacy, limits to government power, equal protection....anything??? No none of it. I hate all of it. I’m for a totalitarian regime along the lines of Chairman Mao’s PRC. I can’t wait for the Great Leap Forward. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,951 Posted March 6 So over the next few days I plan on using this thread to examine Donald Trump’s campaign promises in detail. I will look at what he has said on a variety of issues, and offer my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted March 6 3 hours ago, squistion said: We are not just talking elementary schools. In fact, very few of the books that have been banned were even available to elementary school kids in the first place (and those that were, were rather innocuous like the one about two male penguins who raise an orphan baby penguin). They want the books banned at the High School level, so that kids can't access or read the books at all if they want to (which were not even part of any required classroom curriculum, from what I've seen). porn should be banned in High School as well. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 898 Posted March 6 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: porn should be banned in High School as well. HTH No one has been calling for porn to be available to High School kids (they can probably find it anyway on the internet). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, squistion said: No one has been calling for porn to be available to High School kids (they can probably find it anyway on the internet). the books you cited show images giving BJ's recommend gay dating sites and talk about hardcore anal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
