The Psychic Observer 495 Posted September 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: When you reclassify felonies as misdemeanors and you stop prosecuting criminal activity, the violent crime rate will go down. Who is doing that? Who is reclassifying murder as jaywalking? Please stop lying to us. We're not stupid enough to believe you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 23, 2024 9 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: When you reclassify felonies as misdemeanors and you stop prosecuting criminal activity, the violent crime rate will go down. Yep. When it's not on the books, it doesn't happen. Liberals are so stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted September 23, 2024 10 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: Who is doing that? Who is reclassifying murder as jaywalking? Please stop lying to us. We're not stupid enough to believe you? https://porac.org/wp-content/uploads/CA-Decriminalization-Timeline.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted September 23, 2024 Imagine people actually defending the soft-on-crime policies of Liberal Prosecutors. They actually exist - as evidenced by this discussion. Amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 23, 2024 1 minute ago, Patented Phil said: Imagine people actually defending the soft-on-crime policies of Liberal Prosecutors. They actually exist - as evidenced by this discussion. Amazing. Liberals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 495 Posted September 23, 2024 15 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: https://porac.org/wp-content/uploads/CA-Decriminalization-Timeline.pdf 1) There is nothing in here about murder 2) The decriminalization started in 1992 and has been ongoing ever since, so why did crime go up during Trump and then back down after Trump? CA decided to start getting tough on crime during the Trump years but then stopped after? 3) You're telling us the "soft on crime policies" were halted during the Trump years? Stop lying to us. We're not this dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: 1) There is nothing in here about murder 2) The decriminalization started in 1992 and has been ongoing ever since, so why did crime go up during Trump and then back down after Trump? CA decided to start getting tough on crime during the Trump years but then stopped after? 3) You're telling us the "soft on crime policies" were halted during the Trump years? Stop lying to us. We're not this dumb. No. You're dumber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted September 23, 2024 32 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: 1) There is nothing in here about murder 2) The decriminalization started in 1992 and has been ongoing ever since, so why did crime go up during Trump and then back down after Trump? CA decided to start getting tough on crime during the Trump years but then stopped after? 3) You're telling us the "soft on crime policies" were halted during the Trump years? Stop lying to us. We're not this dumb. Let’s get one thing straight - you are this dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 248 Posted September 24, 2024 7 hours ago, TimHauck said: lol I didn’t realize this thread was started by @jonnyutah. Dude loves citing misleading stats apparently. Although at least when he’s done it more recently he’s cited his source, which he did not do here. One of two things has happened here. 1. You have no idea where this data is from, even though i have told you, and you are pretending as if I made it up because it makes your feelings of inadequacy temporarily go away. Some other people like squab boy might also not know and then they may even like your post or trade PMs with you. I know having a father that hates you has been tough so hopefully that makes you feel better. 2. You know where the data comes from and you just lie so you can feel affirmed. Being such a feminine guy has also been hard on you and so I understand. I mean it is your fault chief, but I dont want you to always feel inadequate in life so I will play along. Oh man you sure got me! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted September 24, 2024 11 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said: 1) There is nothing in here about murder 2) The decriminalization started in 1992 and has been ongoing ever since, so why did crime go up during Trump and then back down after Trump? CA decided to start getting tough on crime during the Trump years but then stopped after? 3) You're telling us the "soft on crime policies" were halted during the Trump years? Stop lying to us. We're not this dumb. Stop trying to confuse him with the facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 24, 2024 12 hours ago, Patented Phil said: Let’s get one thing straight - you are this dumb. But at least he has Squidtard on his side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,889 Posted September 24, 2024 SHOCK: Man in a blonde wig, makeup, and pearls is accused of trying to abduct an 11-year-old boy outside his home in Ohio. Joshua ‘Vicky’ Freyermuth, 39, is accused of trying to lure him off his property by saying, "I need to talk to you." When the child refused, Freyermuth attempted to grab him. : r/Wild_Politics (reddit.com) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,602 Posted September 24, 2024 8 hours ago, jonnyutah said: One of two things has happened here. 1. You have no idea where this data is from, even though i have told you, and you are pretending as if I made it up because it makes your feelings of inadequacy temporarily go away. Some other people like squab boy might also not know and then they may even like your post or trade PMs with you. I know having a father that hates you has been tough so hopefully that makes you feel better. 2. You know where the data comes from and you just lie so you can feel affirmed. Being such a feminine guy has also been hard on you and so I understand. I mean it is your fault chief, but I dont want you to always feel inadequate in life so I will play along. Oh man you sure got me! Wrong on both counts. I was the one that cited your source for you because you’re a coward, and I also pointed out how you were trying to mislead with it. For one, the metric you cited declined in 2021 vs 2020. You also focused on one specific metric when really most of them were comparable to 2018. Oh and by the way the new report is out. I’ll be eagerly awaiting your next thread talking about how violent crime (as you defined it) is down 11%, and just about flat to 2018. https://bjs.ojp.gov/document/cv23.pdf Better luck next time. Maybe you should go falsely accuse some more mayors of taking advantage of Haitians. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Wrong on both counts. I was the one that cited your source for you because you’re a coward, and I also pointed out how you were trying to mislead with it. For one, the metric you cited declined in 2021 vs 2020. You also focused on one specific metric when really most of them were comparable to 2018. Oh and by the way the new report is out. I’ll be eagerly awaiting your next thread talking about how violent crime (as you defined it) is down 11%, and just about flat to 2018. https://bjs.ojp.gov/document/cv23.pdf Better luck next time. Maybe you should go falsely accuse some more mayors of taking advantage of Haitians. You are such a fool. You never get anything right. The idiot left just plays you dopes and you lap it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted September 24, 2024 https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs not sure if anyone has posted this. But when lapd and nypd aren’t reporting of course crime is down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 333 Posted September 24, 2024 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs not sure if anyone has posted this. But when lapd and nypd aren’t reporting of course crime is down Have you been a victim of a violent crime in LA or NY? Report it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 495 Posted September 24, 2024 12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs not sure if anyone has posted this. But when lapd and nypd aren’t reporting of course crime is down LAPD and NYPD reportedly lower crime individually, so yes crime is down even with those numbers. https://mayor.lacity.gov/news/lapd-releases-end-year-crime-statistics-city-los-angeles-2023 https://abc7ny.com/nypd-crime-shootings-murders/14259597/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted September 24, 2024 18 minutes ago, purdygood said: Have you been a victim of a violent crime in LA or NY? Report it. bro, all I am saying is that they changed the reporting to the DOJ according to this new system also please show me where to get the number so everyone can individually report a crime to the FBI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 333 Posted September 24, 2024 13 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: bro, all I am saying is that they changed the reporting to the DOJ according to this new system also please show me where to get the number so everyone can individually report a crime to the FBI Fair enough. Government on both sides at it's finest. (weak AF) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,602 Posted September 24, 2024 57 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs not sure if anyone has posted this. But when lapd and nypd aren’t reporting of course crime is down This is irrelevant to the crime victimization survey which I linked the update for (and was the basis for the data in the OP, even though the OP did not cite his source) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,121 Posted September 24, 2024 But how has crime affected minimum wage earners? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted September 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This is irrelevant to the crime victimization survey which I linked the update for (and was the basis for the data in the OP, even though the OP did not cite his source) wait, we think crime is determined by surveys now? FYI I saw a piece on crime reporting this morning, and I hadn't read any of this thread, I read this page only and posted what I learned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 24, 2024 34 minutes ago, MDC said: But how has crime affected minimum wage earners? Maybe some day if you get a raise you can tell us. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted September 24, 2024 1 hour ago, MDC said: MDCDS Fishtown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,687 Posted September 24, 2024 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/violent-crimes-have-increased-under-biden-harris-admin-despite-dems-denials-expert Violent crimes have increased under Biden-Harris admin despite Dems' denials: expert 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,602 Posted September 25, 2024 19 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: wait, we think crime is determined by surveys now? FYI I saw a piece on crime reporting this morning, and I hadn't read any of this thread, I read this page only and posted what I learned Well here’s you citing the same survey. It does actually seem to have a decent methodology though. On 3/28/2017 at 12:42 AM, RaiderHaters Revenge said: and just to prove more Rape And Sexual Assault Among College-Age Females, 1995-2013 Sofi Sinozich, Lynn Langton, Ph.D., Bureau of Justice Statistics December 11, 2014 NCJ 248471 Compares the characteristics of rape and sexual assault victimization against females ages 18 to 24 who are enrolled and not enrolled in college. This report examines the relationship between the victim and offender, the involvement of a weapon, location of the victimization, reporting to police, perceived offender characteristics, and victim demographics. Data are from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), which collects information on nonfatal crimes, reported and not reported to the police, against persons from a nationally representative sample of U.S. households. The report also discusses methodological differences between the NCVS and other surveys that measure rape and sexual assault victimization and the impact of these difference on rape and sexual assault estimates. Highlights: The rate of rape and sexual assault was 1.2 times higher for nonstudents (7.6 per 1,000) than for students (6.1 per 1,000). For both college students and nonstudents, the offender was known to the victim in about 80% of rape and sexual assault victimizations. Most (51%) student rape and sexual assault victimizations occurred while the victim was pursuing leisure activities away from home, compared to nonstudents who were engaged in other activities at home (50%) when the victimization occurred. The offender had a weapon in about 1 in 10 rape and sexual assault victimizations against both students and nonstudents. Rape and sexual assault victimizations of students (80%) were more likely than nonstudent victimizations (67%) to go unreported to police. https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5176 no fricking opinion here and just to help you out, that is less than 1% of all women no matter how you look at it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted September 25, 2024 16 hours ago, Baker Boy said: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/violent-crimes-have-increased-under-biden-harris-admin-despite-dems-denials-expert Violent crimes have increased under Biden-Harris admin despite Dems' denials: expert This is really nothing to do with "Biden/Harris" and far more to do with Liberalism. The inclination of Liberals to elevate the position of the criminal above that of the victim as an ideological centerpiece is the real problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,602 Posted September 25, 2024 On 9/24/2024 at 8:09 AM, TimHauck said: Oh and by the way the new report is out. I’ll be eagerly awaiting your next thread talking about how violent crime (as you defined it) is down 11%, and just about flat to 2018. https://bjs.ojp.gov/document/cv23.pdf I take that as a no, you won’t be starting another thread on this, @jonnyutah? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,114 Posted September 25, 2024 What is happening to our country is hard to believe. That so many Americans can't see what's going on. The total perversion of our country, which is run by sex trafficking pedophiles. This Diddy case has a lot of people's attention. They see how Justin Beiber was treated as a kid, and they are now realizing wtf happened to him. Not reporting crimes or decriminalized things like theft is just another part of the plan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,505 Posted September 25, 2024 15 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Not reporting crimes or decriminalized things like theft is just another part of the plan. Don't forget that the theft now has to be above $999 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,687 Posted September 26, 2024 https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbis-flawed-crime-data-highlighted-chicagos-116-missing-murders- FBI's 'flawed' crime data highlighted by Chicago's 118 'missing murders': expert Sean Kennedy says the FBI figures are not accurate because law enforcement agencies are submitting data differently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,602 Posted September 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Baker Boy said: https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbis-flawed-crime-data-highlighted-chicagos-116-missing-murders- FBI's 'flawed' crime data highlighted by Chicago's 118 'missing murders': expert Sean Kennedy says the FBI figures are not accurate because law enforcement agencies are submitting data differently That’s not the data this thread was based on, fyi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted September 26, 2024 23 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: What is happening to our country is hard to believe. That so many Americans can't see what's going on. The total perversion of our country, which is run by sex trafficking pedophiles. This Diddy case has a lot of people's attention. They see how Justin Beiber was treated as a kid, and they are now realizing wtf happened to him. Not reporting crimes or decriminalized things like theft is just another part of the plan. Correct. The criminal has been redesignated by liberals to be the actual victim, and those being victimized are those who "have" and thus are the real evil. This aligns rather well with their Marxist philosophy and the farcical notion that all people are good, some behave less well because they are just victims of this system that subjugates them. When in fact the system simply elevates those who deserve and does not help those who do not deserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,919 Posted November 9, 2024 Gun arrests up for the sixth year in a row in NYC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,602 Posted November 10, 2024 Still waiting on the update from @jonnyutah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites