Trump's NY Election Interference Trial - Trump is found guilty on all 34 counts

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So let’s take some predictions on how long the jury is out: 

A. Less than 24 hours 

B. 24-72 hours (by the end of this week) 

C. Next week or longer 

 

I’ll go with B. We’ll have a verdict by Friday night; it won’t go past the weekend. 

I think it will be more like this...
 

 

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

The jurors only get 40 bucks a day, man-that's got to be a big pay cut for some of them.  

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2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The jurors only get 40 bucks a day, man-that's got to be a big pay cut for some of them.  

My last job paid me for my time on jury duty. 

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50 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The folks here and elsewhere calling Judge Merchan, a highly respected justice with decades of experience, a “hack” and corrupt are the same folks who called Dr. Fauci a hack and corrupt. 
 

There is a connection here and it’s more than simply trying to take down an expert in a given field who might say or do things they don’t like- it’s the populist urge to take down ALL experts in our society. The word the populists love to use is “elites”; they are scorned as “know-it-alls” and thought to be the main enemy. 

Yeah, that's what it is. 

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50 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Your fault. You chose to nominate him again. I guarantee you most of us on the other side would have loved to forget about him. 

ahh..no.  You chose to "GET 'EEM" for the last decade.  Your fault.

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

My last job paid me for my time on jury duty. 

I looked it up for New York, they "encourage" employers to pay for it, but it's not required. The two times I've been called(and 2 times other employees were called), we got full pay, but none of us even got selected for the voir dire. So it was pretty much like a paid holiday. I'm guessing it probably varies company to company.

You would think though that the 'pay' would be at least minimum wage.  

[Strike 5,427]

Just now, Mike Honcho said:

I looked it up for New York, they "encourage" employers to pay for it, but it's not required. The two times I've been called(and 2 times other employees were called), we got full pay, but none of us even got selected for the voir dire. So it was pretty much like a paid holiday. I'm guessing it probably varies company to company.

You would think though that the 'pay' would be at least minimum wage.  

My point is that you have no clue how many, if any, of those jurors this will be a "pay cut" for.  In the jurisdictions I've lived in financial hardship is a valid reason to be excused from jury duty.  I would suspect given the length and scope of this trial that the court would be very sympathetic to that issue.

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795515798754132282

The lawyers are back in court. No jury yet. The lawyers are discussing Blanche's statement about prison to the jury before the lunch break, as well as the prosecution's claim that Blanche misstated the law (again) as it pertains to the need for retainer agreements in the state of NY.

Judge Merchan rules that he is NOT going to give a curative instruction to the jury about Blanche's prison statement as it would bring more attention to it than is worth.

The jury is being brought into the courtroom now.

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795517351947026453

Merchan: Jurors, before we hear from the Govt, you heard Mr. Blanche asked do not send the defendant to prison, that is improper and you must disregard it. If there is a verdict of guilty it will be up to me to impose a sentence.

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795517572923953267

Joshua Steinglass is up for the Prosecution to do Closing:

"In his opening Mr. Colangelo told you this case is a conspiracy to corrupt the 2016 election and to hide that conspiracy by hiding records to pay off Ms. Daniels for her silence…"

Steinglass: You should focus on the facts and the logical inferences and the hard evidence, the notes, the voice recordings, we asked you to remember to tune out the noise and if you did that you will see the People have presented powerful evidence.

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795518369480777881

Steinglass: The defense is questioning our integrity and is suggesting call summaries were trimmed down but the phone records themselves are all evidence

STEINGLASS: “Don’t fall for the suggestion that these call summaries were trimmed down to mislead you.”

STEINGLASS: The defense can point to any call they want you to look at. They were given all of the records and in fact, what they did was double count half the calls on the summary of phone calls [during Costello's examination].

STEINGLASS: the absence of a phone record doesn’t prove a call never happened.

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

If I were the prosecutor my entire closing statement would be: If you think Trump banged her filthy, you must find him guilty or If you think he busted a nut, you have to lock up his butt. 

Go full Johnnie Cochran!!!

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795518018727883108

STEINGLASS: Another false notion is that Stormy Daniels was trying to extort Trump and trying to go public but that is not reality.

[Gina] Rodriguez reached out to Dylan Howard first; she did not reach out to Michael Cohen….Howard tells Davidson that Gina is trying to hawk the Stormy Daniels story.

STEINGLASS: In the end it doesn't really matter because you don't get to commit election fraud or falsify your business records because you think you’ve been victimized. "Extortion is not a defense to falsifying business records."

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795519831263125542

Steinglass: You've got to use your common sense, here. Consider the utterly damning testimony of David Pecker, the defendant's friend for four decades.

Keep in mind Mr. Pecker has no reason to lie, no bias towards the defendant and thinks Mr. Trump is still a friend and a mentor.

"Hope Hicks, Graff, Westerhout, McConney, and Tarasoff: these people like the defendant, but each one provides critical pieces of the puzzle, building blocks…"

STEINGLASS: “To be sure, other witnesses want to see the defendant held accountable. They’re angry with the defendant and want to see him convicted.”

STEINGLASS: they have been attacked on social media

STEINGLASS: It certainly is true you don't have to prove that the sex took place as that is not an element of the crime, but the defendant knew what happened and that just reinforces the incentive to buy her silence.

STEINGLASS: If her testimony were so irrelevant, why did they work so hard to discredit her?

STEINGLASS: Michael Cohen has baggage, he is a convicted felon. Cohen is interested in this and that’s a factor you should consider, but you’re not required to reject the testimony of an interested witness. Michael Cohen is understandably angry because he’s the only one who has paid a price.

Steinglass: The defendant has escaped justice. Cohen was his right hand man, HIS CONSIGLIERE AND HE CUT HIM LOOSE LIKE A HOT POTATO.

STEINGLASS: “Pecker got a non-prosecution agreement, [Dylan] Howard’s in Australia, and the defendant, up until now, has escaped justice.”

STEINGLASS: All the while, the election law violations to which Cohen plead guilty were committed at the defendant’s direction. Anyone in Cohen's shoes would want the defendant held accountable.

The defense urges you to reject Cohen’s testimony because he was seeking a benefit but he never got his sentence reduced and he's still here providing information about what went down.

 

 

 

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https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795520947228995840

 

STEINGLASS: “In the simplest of terms, Stormy Daniels is the motive.”

 

 

 

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795522758941774324

Re. the Redfinch money:

STEINGLASS: They say Cohen stole from the Trump Org when he and AW were working out the reimbursement.

Redfinch was being used to rig a CNBC online poll to make the defendant seem more popular. Then CNBC pulled that poll, and Trump decided not to pay the bill, like he often does.

STEINGLASS: That’s stealing and that was wrong, we agree. That didn’t come out in cross, though, Cohen admitted it readily. He’s also the one who brought it to everyone’s attention - he volunteered it.

[ME: I LOVE this here:]

STEINGLASS: In any event, none of this matters because Blanche said Cohen stole $60,000, but they are trying to have it both ways…

They’re denying $420,000 was a reimbursement at all, but if that’s true, then there was no theft because Cohen was getting paid for legal services…..

So "they can call him a thief, or claim this is not really a reimbursement, but not both.”

“I am not asking you to feel bad for Michael Cohen. He made his bed. But you can hardly blame him for making a living off of the one thing he has left: his knowledge of Donald Trump and the Trump phenomenon."

STEINGLASS: Defense also tells you should reject his testimony because he lied and took pleas in federal court. He has had some trouble accepting responsibility. For bank fraud conviction and his tax law violation, he said he admitted to you that he did the things. He plead guilty. He acknowledged info missing from tax and HELOC app.

STEINGLASS: He feels like he was treated unfairly and as a first offender he should have been able to pay a fine and back taxes and he believes the Trump justice department did him dirty, whether that is true or not he accepted responsibility and went to prison for it…..

 

 

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795524438361813097

STEINGLASS: The lies Cohen told to Congress had to do with the Mueller Investigation and the Russia Probe and what he lied about was the number of dealings Trump had with Russia and the only benefit was Cohen stayed in Trump's good graces and now those lies that Cohen told are being used by the same defendant to undermine his credibility and “that is what some people might call chutzpah”.

STEINGLASS: That’s the “big lie,” echoing Trump's election denying conspiracies.

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

 

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Prosecutor acts out fake conversation between Cohen, Trump and his bodyguard

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass has turned to the October 24 call and is acting out a fake conversation between Michael Cohen, Trump and his former bodyguard Keith Schiller.

Steinglass says the defense has tried to claim it is the "big lie."

"Hey Keith, how’s it going? It seems like this prankster might be a 14-year-old kid," Steinglass starts the fake conversation.

Steinglass uses his hand with his thumb and pinky finger extended as a fake phone as he does this

 

 

And they said those improv classes would never pay off.  

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https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795525882326454385

Katie's Sidebar:

What Joshua Steinglass (the prosecutor) does here in Closing Arguments was impeccable (and something I've done before in jury trials when the timing of an event/incident has been at issue)

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Regarding that 10/24/16 call from Cohen to Keith Schiller's cellphone: Steinglass, at a measured pace, "reenacts" how that conversation might have gone down. First: Cohen speaks to Schiller about the 14-year old teenager who was blowing up Cohen's phone and then, Cohen speaks to Trump about the Stormy Daniels' payment.

In that non-rushed reenactment, the entire conversation with both Schiller and Trump only took 49 seconds, well within the time allotted per the cellphone records.

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795526303631692032

Steinglass: Here the defense is trying to have it both ways: Cohen will say anything to get the defendant convicted and so if Cohen’s purpose was to come in here and lie, how easy would it have been for him to go further?

If Mr. Cohen wanted to lie, he could have just said the defendant said “Yeah, I slept with her, it was the greatest night of his life, whatever.”

STEINGLASS: We didn't choose Michael Cohen as a witness… “We didn't pick him up at the witness store…” “The defendant chose Michael Cohen. He was his fixer.”

STEINGLASS: Trump chose Cohen for the same qualities that they want you to reject him for…

[SHOWING PASSAGE FROM TRUMP’S THINK BIG BOOK]: “As a matter of fact, I value loyalty above everything else - more than brains, more than drive, and more than energy.”

[Hardcore troubadour 15,268]

So funny (and pathetic). Libtards acting like the outcome is in doubt and then will celebrate as if justice has happened here. 

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795526908106493952

STEINGLASS: The judge will tell you that Cohen was an accomplice because of the crimes in this case.

STEINGLASS: In this case there is literally a mountain of evidence, of corroborating testimony that tends to connect the defendant in this crime.

STEINGLASS: From Pecker to Hicks, from his own tweets, and rallies….

STEINGLASS: “It’s difficult to conceive of a case with more corroboration.”

STEINGLASS: Costello was actually a double agent...to discourage Cohen from cooperating and to keep the defendant informed and it became clear to Cohen they were setting him up to be the fall guy.

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11 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795522758941774324

Re. the Redfinch money:

STEINGLASS: They say Cohen stole from the Trump Org when he and AW were working out the reimbursement.

Redfinch was being used to rig a CNBC online poll to make the defendant seem more popular. Then CNBC pulled that poll, and Trump decided not to pay the bill, like he often does.

STEINGLASS: That’s stealing and that was wrong, we agree. That didn’t come out in cross, though, Cohen admitted it readily. He’s also the one who brought it to everyone’s attention - he volunteered it.

[ME: I LOVE this here:]

STEINGLASS: In any event, none of this matters because Blanche said Cohen stole $60,000, but they are trying to have it both ways…

They’re denying $420,000 was a reimbursement at all, but if that’s true, then there was no theft because Cohen was getting paid for legal services…..

So "they can call him a thief, or claim this is not really a reimbursement, but not both.”

“I am not asking you to feel bad for Michael Cohen. He made his bed. But you can hardly blame him for making a living off of the one thing he has left: his knowledge of Donald Trump and the Trump phenomenon."

STEINGLASS: Defense also tells you should reject his testimony because he lied and took pleas in federal court. He has had some trouble accepting responsibility. For bank fraud conviction and his tax law violation, he said he admitted to you that he did the things. He plead guilty. He acknowledged info missing from tax and HELOC app.

STEINGLASS: He feels like he was treated unfairly and as a first offender he should have been able to pay a fine and back taxes and he believes the Trump justice department did him dirty, whether that is true or not he accepted responsibility and went to prison for it…..

 

 

Your unbiased X reporter may love it, but it seems dangerous to me.  He is in some ways painting Cohen out to be a vindictive pr1ck.

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795527562988515374

STEINGLASS: “As we discussed in jury selection, he question is not whether you like Cohen, or whether you want to go into business with him. The truth is, he was in the best position to know….” “He was in the best position to know because he was the defendant’s right hand”

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Sounds like Blanche did a pretty good job. Really with the whole case, except that one witness the defense called (which probably won’t matter much)

[thegeneral 3,121]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

Sounds like Blanche did a pretty good job. Really with the whole case, except that one witness the defense called (which probably won’t matter much)

Hopefully he got paid upfront.

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795527902722953660

STEINGLASS: It is obvious they want to make this case about Michael Cohen, they had him on cross for three days and asked him only an hours' worth of questions that had anything to do with this case.

“This case is not about Michael Cohen. This case is about Donald Trump.”

STEINGLASS: Whether they falsified business records to cover up an election law violation, Michael Cohen provides context and color to the documents; he is a tour guide thru the physical evidence.

“You don’t need Michael Cohen to connect these dots, but as the ultimate insider, he can help you do just that.”

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795529368309321988

STEINGLAS: At that Aug 2015 meeting at TT, the prism you should analyze the evidence in this case: three rich powerful men high up in TT trying to become even more powerful trying to control the flow of information to voters.

The key components of that August 2015 agreement: to accentuate the positive. To promote campaign without endorsing Trump - by colluding with the campaign to manufacture favorable content - outside of its normal press function. They even gave advance copies to Trump. To publish stories attacking the defendant’s political opponents.

Real game changer of this meeting was the catch and kill component.

Prior to the August 2015 meeting and Mr. Pecker was very clear about this, he never agreed to publish hit pieces and he never ever paid for a Trump story for the purpose of killing it. No matter how many times the def says otherwise, this was not business as usual.

STEINGLASS: You may say: Who cares if Trump slept with a porn star 10 years before the election?! Plenty of people feel that way. “But it's harder to say the American people don’t get the right to decide for themselves.”

[IGotWorms 4,057]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So funny (and pathetic). Libtards acting like the outcome is in doubt and then will celebrate as if justice has happened here. 

So you think the evidence against Trump is overwhelming?

[Tree of Knowledge 1,804]

The fix is in.  Now it’s just a matter of what We The People do about it 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/report-secret-service-has-met-local-jail-officials/

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The fix is in.  Now it’s just a matter of what We The People do about it 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/report-secret-service-has-met-local-jail-officials/

 

Stupid

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795530754119655524

STEINGLASS: Once AMI purchased stories on a candidate's behalf and in coordination with the campaign, those purchases became unlawful campaign contributions.

I suggest to you that the value of this corrupt bargain at the Trump Tower meeting cannot be overstated. It turned out to be one of the most valuable contributions ever made….

“This scheme, cooked up by these men…could very well be what got President Trump elected…”

[squistion 2,126]

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795531293129871461

Re. the Dino the Doorman catch and kill:

STEINGLASS: Pecker testified he was willing to pay “far more” for this story than they’d normally pay because of potential embarrassment to the Trump Campaign. Story turned out to not be true.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The fix is in.  Now it’s just a matter of what We The People do about it 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/report-secret-service-has-met-local-jail-officials/

 

Are you going to riot?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,268]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Are you going to riot?

Saving that for November id there’s more bullshitt like 2020. This time no playing around. Selfies prohibited. 

[squistion 2,126]

Just now, squistion said:

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795531293129871461

Re. the Dino the Doorman catch and kill:

STEINGLASS: Pecker testified he was willing to pay “far more” for this story than they’d normally pay because of potential embarrassment to the Trump Campaign. Story turned out to not be true.

https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1795531997458190844

What is interesting: even though the story was not true they still shelled out $30,000….they knew the story wasn't true and when asked why are you paying for an untrue story Pecker testified that if the story got out to another publication it would have been very embarrassing to the Trump Campaign……

STEINGLASS: “This was really catch and kill.”

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5 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The fix is in.  Now it’s just a matter of what We The People do about it 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/report-secret-service-has-met-local-jail-officials/

 

If you can't do the time....don't do the crime. 

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Are you going to riot?

I will riot, but it will be a very quiet riot, you will not be able to feel the noise. 

[thegeneral 3,121]

4 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The fix is in.  Now it’s just a matter of what We The People do about it 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/report-secret-service-has-met-local-jail-officials/

 

Due diligence. Princess will need his makeup and probably has special diet requests. Maybe a hypoallergenic pillow. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Saving that for November id there’s more bullshitt like 2020. This time no playing around. Selfies prohibited. 

So another trump loss in Nov and you're planning on a civil war?