Trump's NY Election Interference Trial - Trump is found guilty on all 34 counts

[thegeneral 3,100]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

As did I.  We were correct.

He was never getting a fair trial in NY on cooked up charges.  Remember, the left has been promising to "Get Him" any way they can (legally or illegally) even before he was President.

Trump had two main pillars of his 2016 election.

Build the wall and Locking up his political opponent

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Trump had two main pillars of his 2016 election.

Build the wall and Locking up his political opponent

Huh?  What's that now?  I think you're revising history to fit into today's verdict.  Nice try, but major fail.

You should probably sit this one out.

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t believe this verdict will be thrown out. All appeals will fail, IMO. 

I believe otherwise.  The Court did not do a good job protecting the record of its rulings, rulings which go directly against established precedent.  The appeal will be, of course, a pyrrhic victory coming, as it will, long after the coming election.

[Maximum Overkill 1,898]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Trump had two main pillars of his 2016 election.

And Joe Biden? 

Destroying the economy, flooding the Country with illegal Immigrants and having us in 3 wars. 

WOW, WE'RE MUCH BETTER OFF NOW  

 

[5-Points 3,467]

9 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Reversible error is a legal concept.  The jury, in my opinion, fopllowed the law as instructed and evaluated the evidence as set before them.  The legal question is whether they were instructed properly and whether the evidence before them was as should have been admitted by the court.

I'm sure, given the evidence allowed and, more importantly, the evidence not allowed, to be presented, the jury probably had no alternative but to return a verdict of guilty. 

My point was, the prosecution and the judge knew what they were doing and that it will likely be reversed post election. 

In other words, this was election interference from start to finish. 

[5-Points 3,467]

5 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Now if you want to be cynical consider this.  The feds are able to profile every person in this country through going through the personal emails, private messages, financial records, and of course social media.   It would be quite easy to characterize each potential juror and feed that information to the prosecution.   It would not shock me one bit of that was done in this case.   What stops the feds from stacking every jury in their favor?   Absolutely nothing. 

How do you think they decided to whom to send the summons'?

[HellToupee 1,691]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

And Joe Biden? 

Destroying the economy, flooding the Country with illegal Immigrants and having us in 3 wars. 

WOW, WE'RE MUCH BETTER OFF NOW  

 

Yup

[thegeneral 3,100]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Huh?  What's that now?  I think you're revising history to fit into today's verdict.  Nice try, but major fail.

You should probably sit this one out.

These were his two chants at every rally. You probably have a “Lock Her Up” tank top.

I know you are grieving deeply today and are mired in hysterics about the corrupt justice system but let’s keep some perspective when you are whining about the left.

[Dozer FBG 325]

6 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Now if you want to be cynical consider this.  The feds are able to profile every person in this country through going through the personal emails, private messages, financial records, and of course social media.   It would be quite easy to characterize each potential juror and feed that information to the prosecution.   It would not shock me one bit of that was done in this case.   What stops the feds from stacking every jury in their favor?   Absolutely nothing. 

Name one foking time this has ever happened you koo-koo for co-co puffs looney tunes M’er F’er.

Making up stories to get your paranoid boot licking buddies their Trump boners.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

These were his two chants at every rally. You probably have a “Lock Her Up” tank top.

I know you are grieving deeply today and are mired in hysterics about the corrupt justice system but let’s keep some perspective when you are whining about the left.

I think you're assuming way too much.  Still waiting for a link where he said he wanted to lock up his political opponents as one of two pillars in his platform.

Oh, you don't have any proof?  I figured as much.  You're just as hysterical about Trump as your the other girls on your side of the aisle.  All drama, hysteria and rants but no truth. 

Run away now. Go project on to someone else.

[jonmx 2,425]

Just now, Dozer FBG said:

Name one foking time this has ever happened you koo-koo for co-co puffs looney tunes M’er F’er.

Making up stories to get your paranoid boot licking buddies their Trump boners.

The feds have committed hundreds of thousands of FISA violations of illegally spying on American citizens.  Only a focking  bootlicking idiot would trust the feds not to abuse the system.   Give a Sieg Heil to you buddies, you focking fascist badtard

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[listen2me 23 1,846]

20 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I believe and hope you're wrong. We'll see.

I know you do.  Thats what this whole trial was about for Libs.  For something to hopefully knock Trump down in the election.  

At least you are honest.  

[thegeneral 3,100]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I think you're assuming way too much.  Still waiting for a link where he said he wanted to lock up his political opponents as one of two pillars in his platform.

Oh, you don't have any proof?  I figured as much.  You're just as hysterical about Trump as your the other girls on your side of the aisle.  All drama, hysteria and rants but no truth. 

Run away now. Go project on to someone else.

You were serious about a link. Watch any pep rally in 2016. He specifically had very interesting commentary on candidates under indictment

 

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1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I think you're assuming way too much.  Still waiting for a link where he said he wanted to lock up his political opponents as one of two pillars in his platform.

Oh, you don't have any proof?  I figured as much.  You're just as hysterical about Trump as your the other girls on your side of the aisle.  All drama, hysteria and rants but no truth. 

Run away now. Go project on to someone else.

Trump said he would lock her up after he won. Which he didn't do.

Dems trying to lock Trump up so he can't run. 

Bored dummies: "It's the same thing!"

[Fnord 2,175]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I think you're assuming way too much.  Still waiting for a link where he said he wanted to lock up his political opponents as one of two pillars in his platform.

Oh, you don't have any proof?  I figured as much.  You're just as hysterical about Trump as your the other girls on your side of the aisle.  All drama, hysteria and rants but no truth. 

Run away now. Go project on to someone else.

Does your memory not work? Or just being obtuse?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

Just now, 5-Points said:

Trump said he would lock her up after he won. Which he didn't do.

Dems trying to lock Trump up so he can't run. 

Bored dummies: "It's the same thing!"

Can't think on their own - they get their glory-hole talking points and run with those.  No thinking necessary.

That's why they're the board dummies. 

[Bill E. 703]

57 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I’ll be contributing $100 as soon as it’s back up.

 

I just donated.  Trump is the first person running nationally that I ever gave money to.  I do not usually get worked up about politics but this just seems wrong.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Does your memory not work? Or just being obtuse?

I'm asking you to provide proof that one of two main pillars in Trumps platform was to lock up his political opponents.  "Lock Her Up" is not a pillar, it's a chant- and something he never did despite all of your hand-wringing.

Now, I ask again. link to his platform where it specifies that.  Can't provide any?  Didn't think so - you are all hysteria and drama.

[The Real timschochet 6,588]

9 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I believe otherwise.  The Court did not do a good job protecting the record of its rulings, rulings which go directly against established precedent.  The appeal will be, of course, a pyrrhic victory coming, as it will, long after the coming election.

If you listen to conservative attorneys on Fox (like Hugh Hewitt and Turley and Andrew McCarthy) they absolutely agree with your interpretation. Most other legal experts I’ve heard, like Andrew Weismann and Neal Katyal, take the opposite view. So I guess we’ll see. But I think a successful appeal will be unlikely. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Unanimously guilty on 34 counts but it’s rigged

[5-Points 3,467]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Can't think on their own - they get their glory-hole talking points and run with those.  No thinking necessary.

That's why they're the board dummies. 

You'd think at some point they'd take a step back and revisit their delusional ranting and realize they've been wrong at every turn. But they don't have time for that. On to the next manufactured threat to democracy. 

Quick! Look over here! 

[squistion 2,105]

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1796313893779746985

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg: "The only voice that matters is the voice of the jury and the jury has spoken."

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

Unanimously guilty on 34 counts but it’s rigged

"My Kangaroo Court was unanimous!"

You know how stupid you sound? 

[thegeneral 3,100]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Trump said he would lock her up after he won. Which he didn't do.

Dems trying to lock Trump up so he can't run. 

Bored dummies: "It's the same thing!"

Why didn’t he do this

He just cares too much about the country!

You guys are too much today.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Why didn’t he do this

He just cares too much about the country!

You guys are too much today.

Says the guy making things up. 

[Fnord 2,175]

2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I know you do.  Thats what this whole trial was about for Libs.  For something to hopefully knock Trump down in the election.  

At least you are honest.  

I'm not completely convinced that the impetus for this specific set of charges wasn't partisan. BUT, the fact is the jury found him guilty on all counts. Trump doesn't need to be knocked out of the election. His followers need to be shown how ridiculous their support is for a man that would happily demolish anything for his own personal aggrandizement.

They also need to be shown that the American justice system, while imperfect, is not nearly as corrupt as they want to believe it is. This is the true danger of Donald Trump: his followers trust him more than they trust anything, especially the institutions that prevent this country from becoming a banana republic. Think about that. A guy that can't win a court case with all of his built-in advantages has millions believing his lies and ready to burn down basically everything. 

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you listen to conservative attorneys on Fox (like Hugh Hewitt and Turley and Andrew McCarthy) they absolutely agree with your interpretation. Most other legal experts I’ve heard, like Andrew Weismann and Neal Katyal, take the opposite view. So I guess we’ll see. But I think a successful appeal will be unlikely. 

I merely go by my own experience.  That is not to say my experience has lead to perfect acumen on such matters  but I did spend the majority of my career in both  the state and federal criminal courts and I did work both sides of the aisle to regular success.  Of one thing I am certain, the final outcome will not depend on my opinon or my advocacy as I will in no manner be involved in the appeal or in ruling thereupon.

[thegeneral 3,100]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Says the guy making things up. 

This is such an odd thing for you to get hung up on. 

Did Trump ask his AG to get back into Hillary emails investigation? Hint: Yes

Why did they not do this? Hint: Because the case was already closed (you probably think it’s deep state )

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3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Why didn’t he do this

He just cares too much about the country!

You guys are too much today.

Uh, because he wasn't serious and the people attending his rallies had a good time with it. 

You guys need to stop taking everything he says literally. Seriously. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

This is such an odd thing for you to get hung up on. 

Did Trump ask his AG to get back into Hillary emails investigation? Hint: Yes

Why did they not do this? Hint: Because the case was already closed (you probably think it’s deep state )

You're desperately reaching for something to try and distract from the fact that it is YOUR side of the aisle that goes after political opponents.

Quite sad and pathetic, actually.  You're so desperate you have to make things up. 

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

I do note that this case and verdict seem to have us as a nation more polarized than before.  I think that will inure to our collective detriment.

[thegeneral 3,100]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Uh, because he wasn't serious and the people attending his rallies had a good time with it. 

You guys need to stop taking everything he says literally. Seriously. 

oh ok. When he asked Sessions to reopen the investigation he was just joking.

What a rascal!!

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

Just now, thegeneral said:

oh ok. When he asked Sessions reopen the investigation he was just joking.

What a rascal!!

Your post reeks of desperation. 

Keep reaching!!!!

[Dozer FBG 325]

17 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Trump said he would lock her up after he won. Which he didn't do.

Dems trying to lock Trump up so he can't run. 

Bored dummies: "It's the same thing!"

Reminder: Trump was indicted by a grand jury, and unanimously found guilty by another jury.

The amount of individuals in your conspiracy is staggering.

[Mark Davis 385]

13 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1796313893779746985

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg: "The only voice that matters is the voice of the jury and the jury has spoken."

My wife, who voted for Biden last time, got her vote flipped to Trump thanks to Bragg. The fact he doesn’t prosecute things he should and yet decided to go after a political opponent was all it took. So I do owe him that debt of gratitude. In all seriousness, that was just one part. The open border situation and security concerns are probably as large or greater. 

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

I do note that this case and verdict seem to have us as a nation more polarized than before.  I think that will inure to our collective detriment.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

1 minute ago, Mark Davis said:

My wife, who voted for Biden last time, got her vote flipped to Trump thanks to Bragg. The fact he doesn’t prosecute things he should and yet decided to go after a political opponent was all it took. So I do owe him that debt of gratitude. In all seriousness, that was just one part. The open border situation and security concerns are probably as large or greater. 

I don't think this verdict is going to go the way they think it's going to go for the election.  I think this galvanizes support for Trump.  Now he's a martyr.

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

My two favorite monikers now... Thelonious Monk and Felonious Trump.

[Mark Davis 385]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I don't think this verdict is going to go the way they think it's going to go for the election.  I think this galvanizes support for Trump.  Now he's a martyr.

Well at the very least it’s going to give him a huge fundraising night. It’s like I posted in the other thread. It’s possible this influences some of the few undecided or persuadables, not that there is many. It also might push some of those registered voters polling for Trump into actually showing up to vote who might not otherwise have been as intense. I’m not sure how it will all work its way through. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,009]

Just now, Mark Davis said:

Well at the very least it’s going to give him a huge fundraising night. It’s like I posted in the other thread. It’s possible this influences some of the few undecided or persuadables, not that there is many. It also might push some of those registered voters polling for Trump into actually showing up to vote who might not otherwise have been as intense. I’m not sure how it will all work its way through. 

Ultimately, no one knows how it will turn out but I watched that MSNBC clip where the black people identified with Trump being persecuted.  MSNBC did not like that at all.