Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[RLLD 4,143]

5 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

maybe, but the idea that anyone needed the msm for this info is laughable

Perhaps, and yet they did it and people consume it, people use it as their source of information.

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1 hour ago, squistion said:

No one had to tell me Trump is a bigot, a racist and a mean spirited bully, it was apparent from listening to him after the started speaking after he came down the escalator. 

Reminds me a lot of you

[RLLD 4,143]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I take it you didn’t realize how much of a joke he was before then. He sold Trump Steaks, Water, Monopoly, Ties. He did a reality show where Dennis Rodman was to manage a Kinkos versus Gary Busey

He was going on about Obama being from Kenya for like a decade.

You didn’t know any of this?

If any of that led to negative outcomes for me or the American people I might take the time to bother to think about it, since it is irrelevant to outcomes today, I wont waste time with such trite nonsense. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That lawsuit was settled in 1973 when DJT was 26 years old. Stop lying that he discriminated against anyone. The incidents occurred in the 60’s when he was in college. 

1.) I didn't say he actually discriminated against anyone- just that he was sued for it- it's a fact.

2.) The lawsuit came in 1973 against Trump management, Donald, and Fred Trump and was settled in 1975 when Trump said he would give certain concessions to promote black people renting his apartments- all facts

3.) The Trump Organization was sued again in 1978 when it was found Trump was living up to the terms of the 1975 agreement- again facts

3 strikes and you are out...

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Agreed.  And to be fair, CNN reaped some reward from lambasting him on the daily.

So if I have to balance some thing he did in the 70's against whether or not he helps me today.....I am taking benefit today....

That is a completely different argument than what I responded to

[MDC 7,127]

Trump is the candidate for people who want boilerplate Republican policies with a side of colossal ass hole. 

Romney with a Twitter handle.

[thegeneral 2,908]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If any of that led to negative outcomes for me or the American people I might take the time to bother to think about it, since it is irrelevant to outcomes today, I wont waste time with such trite nonsense. 

It’s directly to this crazy idea you have that the “MSM” told people that Trump was a weirdo, carnival barker.

He has shown us for years prior to entering the political arena. 

His “Obama wasn’t born here” shtick alone. He was pulling that out of his ass for years. 

He got made fun of at one of Obama’s WH Correspondents Dinners and laughed at years before he was running. Many have said this was why he decided to run. 

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Oh boy. I think we discovered the problem.

Were they correct about Russian Collusion being a hoax? Yep.

Were they correct about fake impeachments and being doomed to failure, yep.

Were they correct about the Hunter laptop? Yep.

Were they correct about the diminishing capacity of Biden? Yep

 

MSM lied about all these things.  As as has been noted, the ratings swung in their favor as a result.  If MSM stops parroting Democrat lies  I think they get ratings back

[RLLD 4,143]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

That is a completely different argument than what I responded to

Then make a better argument

[Fireballer 2,639]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is a far better analysis than that offered by @supermike80 or @Strike but I feel you still miss two key points: 

1. She really has become a great orator. I honestly don’t know when it happened because I agree she wasn’t one in 2020 or throughout most of her time as VP. But she is one now. 

2. The key to almost all of the great politicians is that you’re not supposed to know where they stand on too many issues. She is a liberal, Reagan was a (traditional) conservative, Clinton and Obama ran as centrists. Beyond these all-encompassing terms all of them were deliberately vague on details because the public doesn’t want to know them. Voters prefer to create their own image of the candidate. 
Later on Kamala will provide a specific platform list of issues and positions like all the rest. But for now she is deliberately working on creating FEELING. She wants you to feel she is good, she needs to have you like her. That’s how she will win. 

In a weird way, Tim may on to something here.  Given the fact that Dem voters are highly represented by overly emotional beings and identity politics, it’s very plausible that there’s unbridled excitement over literally nothing.  It’s very telling that you’re so excited about her speaking skills improving yet pay no attention to the same garbage message being espoused.   

[thegeneral 2,908]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Were they correct about Russian Collusion being a hoax? Yep.

Were they correct about fake impeachments and being doomed to failure, yep.

Were they correct about the Hunter laptop? Yep.

Were they correct about the diminishing capacity of Biden? Yep

 

MSM lied about all these things.  As as has been noted, the ratings swung in their favor as a result.  If MSM stops parroting Democrat lies  I think they get ratings back

Do we need to post all the shet they have been wrong about

They just paid like 800 million and had to shetcan their number one guy for lying out their asses about the election.

Again the point is FOX is MSM. They aren’t being silenced. They are MSNBC. There website is straight Republican talking points on the regular.

 

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

It’s directly to this crazy idea you have that the “MSM” told people that Trump was a weirdo, carnival barker.

He has shown us for years prior to entering the political arena. 

His “Obama wasn’t born here” shtick alone. He was pulling that out of his ass for years. 

He got made fun of at one of Obama’s WH Correspondents Dinners and laughed at years before he was running. Many have said this was why he decided to run. 

MSM absolutely went out and sought to make him look as bad as possible.  They did not like him. They like Democrats.  So they were manipulative liars and liberals happily allow themselves to be manipulated. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Do we need to post all the shet they have been wrong about

They just paid like 800 million and had to shetcan their number one guy for lying out their asses about the election.

Again the point is FOX is MSM. They aren’t being silenced. They are MSNBC. There website is straight Republican talking points on the regular.

 

Sure have at it.  And then explain how those lies led to people moving away from MSM and toward them.  Like I did. I posted the MSM lies, which they got caught for, and have asserted this is a major reason for the migration of viewers. 

[thegeneral 2,908]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

MSM absolutely went out and sought to make him look as bad as possible.  They did not like him. They like Democrats.  So they were manipulative liars and liberals happily allow themselves to be manipulated. 

People who paid attention knew all this for years. I can’t keep telling you this

YOU may not have known, that’s fine, but he has been a very public weirdo for years.

[Fnord 2,051]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Were they correct about Russian Collusion being a hoax? Yep.

Were they correct about fake impeachments and being doomed to failure, yep.

Were they correct about the Hunter laptop? Yep.

Were they correct about the diminishing capacity of Biden? Yep

 

MSM lied about all these things.  As as has been noted, the ratings swung in their favor as a result.  If MSM stops parroting Democrat lies  I think they get ratings back

When did you swallow the whole bottle of red pills?

Fox has been #1 in viewership for over 20 years. That's the easiest "fact" you mentioned above to refute. So, yaknow, since well before Trump was a part of the political scene.

Most of the rest above is also untrue, but you don't (and won't) believe it so I'll just rest my case. You used to be one of the good ones, now you're basically swimming with and gulping down crazy alongside the rest of MAGA. Sad.

 

[thegeneral 2,908]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Sure have at it.  And then explain how those lies led to people moving away from MSM and toward them.  Like I did. I posted the MSM lies, which they got caught for, and have asserted this is a major reason for the migration of viewers. 

People largely gravitate to these networks to just reaffirm their own beliefs. Is this really that hard?

[Herbivore 1,115]

16 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Perhaps, and yet they did it and people consume it, people use it as their source of information.

you consume stuff ray, and it leads you

[thegeneral 2,908]

Just now, Fnord said:

When did you swallow the whole bottle of red pills?

Fox has been #1 in viewership for over 20 years. That's the easiest "fact" you mentioned above to refute. So, yaknow, since we'll before Trump was a part of the political scene.

Most of the rest above is also untrue, but you don't (and won't) believe it so I'll just rest my case. You used to be one of the good ones, now you're basically swimming with and gulping down crazy alongside the rest of MAGA. Sad.

 

Despite his misplaced love for Ford this guy gets it!

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

People who paid attention knew all this for years. I can’t keep telling you this

YOU may not have known, that’s fine, but he has been a very public weirdo for years.

Right they knew for years, but said nothing....happily associated with him, make no pronouncements....until MSM started doing it....   but hey, they always knew

[supermike80 1,803]

25 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re correct of most voters. But in my response to @supermike80 I was specifically referring to Democrats. Most Democrats, IMO, are now voting FOR Kamala. 

Wrong.  Just like you, who was all in on Biden, now are all in on Kamala.  She has literally said almost nothing but youre behind her.  And why? Shes not Trump.  You know, the guy you say will ruin democracy.  

You dont understand politics, you have never understood politics, and this is why 99% of your "analysis" can be completely ignored.

[MDC 7,127]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

People who paid attention knew all this for years. I can’t keep telling you this

YOU may not have known, that’s fine, but he has been a very public weirdo for years.

Ray is the guy who thinks Trump’s problem is his honesty and he killed it at the NABJ. You’re wasting keystrokes.  

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, Fnord said:

When did you swallow the whole bottle of red pills?

Fox has been #1 in viewership for over 20 years. That's the easiest "fact" you mentioned above to refute. So, yaknow, since well before Trump was a part of the political scene.

Most of the rest above is also untrue, but you don't (and won't) believe it so I'll just rest my case. You used to be one of the good ones, now you're basically swimming with and gulping down crazy alongside the rest of MAGA. Sad.

 

We have to agree to disagree  

[thegeneral 2,908]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Right they knew for years, but said nothing....happily associated with him, make no pronouncements....until MSM started doing it....   but hey, they always knew

Because he was a Reality TV show host

Did you expect him to the the main discussion on “Meet The Press” in 2015 to talk about La Toya Jackson’s firing on Celebrity Apprentice.

What are you talking about, seriously?

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

People largely gravitate to these networks to just reaffirm their own beliefs. Is this really that hard?

Are you sure?  Because if that is true, it suggests that most people hold conservative beliefs, and I am not confident that is the case

[thegeneral 2,908]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Ray is the guy who thinks Trump’s problem is his honesty and he killed it at the NABJ. You’re wasting keystrokes.  

Probably but this is such a crazy take I can’t help it!

[RLLD 4,143]

7 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

you consume stuff ray, and it leads you

Absolutely agree,  The Federalist papers in particular, but many other sources of content as well.  

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

14 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Then make a better argument

As to what- squistion said: "No one had to tell me Trump is a bigot, a racist and a mean spirited bully, it was apparent from listening to him after the started speaking after he came down the escalator. "

You said: "Id those are your perceptions then you absolutely got that from the media, none of that was a thing until the media created propaganda toward it"

I responded to that with my post about Trump and the known issues about him.

You responded with: "So if I have to balance some thing he did in the 70's against whether or not he helps me today.....I am taking benefit today...."

Then you say I need a different argument. No- you are conflating two things into one. So let me clarify for you- I'm not speaking to why someone might or might not vote for Trump. I'm speaking to the idea that the things said about Trump are a media propaganda creation. The idea that they are propaganda is a pile of horsesh!t

[thegeneral 2,908]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

As to what- squistion said: "No one had to tell me Trump is a bigot, a racist and a mean spirited bully, it was apparent from listening to him after the started speaking after he came down the escalator. "

You said: "Id those are your perceptions then you absolutely got that from the media, none of that was a thing until the media created propaganda toward it"

I responded to that with my post about Trump and the known issues about him.

You responded with: "So if I have to balance some thing he did in the 70's against whether or not he helps me today.....I am taking benefit today...."

Then you say I need a different argument. No- you are conflating two things into one. So let me clarify for you- I'm not speaking to why someone might or might not vote for Trump. I'm speaking to the idea that the things said about Trump are a media propaganda creation. The idea that they are propaganda is a pile of horsesh!t

He did it before this as well. He went on for years about Obama being “not right” and that there’s something fishy about him and his origins. This was his entry into politics that I was aware of - racist tinged bullshet.

Before that he was just sort of an oddball like the MyPillow guy on steroids.

 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Can we please end this idea that FOX News- the most watched news channel in the country by more than 2 to 1 AND does more viewers than their two competitors combined in cable news is not MSM?

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

He did it before this as well. He went on for years about Obama being “not right” and that there’s something fishy about him and his origins. This was his entry into politics that I was aware of - racist tinged bullshet.

Before that he was just sort of an oddball like the MyPillow guy on steroids.

 

No that's just media propaganda

[purdygood 334]

20 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If any of that led to negative outcomes for me or the American people I might take the time to bother to think about it, since it is irrelevant to outcomes today, I wont waste time with such trite nonsense. 

you don't think part of the job of being the president is being a role model for the entire public?  (whether they voted for you or not)  or is at all about what's best for me in the short term and only the people who voted for me? (Trump think)

[Fnord 2,051]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

No that's just media propaganda

Thank God CNN told me to hate Trump in 2015. To think I could've gone all this time without realizing it for myself! THANKS MSM!!!!

[TBayXXXVII 2,483]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

False.

Back atcha: Same setup, but Trump as a Democrat, if the Reps held congress, would have been impeached and removed.

The answer was True.

Trump would not have been impeached, just like Biden, who openly admitted... on video, of quid pro quo.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Love Harris going after those stupid focking anti-Israel protesters. Fock em

[IGotWorms 4,057]

3 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

He is thinking back to the time he wrong holed her in the Mankato TGIF restroom while a Vikings preseason game was on in the bar, an understandably fond memory. 

She’s not bad looking at all. Insane, yes, but doable 

[Fnord 2,051]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The answer was True.

Trump would not have been impeached, just like Biden, who openly admitted... on video, of quid pro quo.

Sure. A Republican congress would totally have let the Russia allegations and gross violations of the emoluments clause slide for a Dem POTUS. Wouldn't have even talked about it, prolly...

[IGotWorms 4,057]

2 hours ago, JuneJuly said:

 

 

The guy fawkes mask is weird!

[IGotWorms 4,057]

2 hours ago, thegeneral said:

“Duh media tells you what to think”…then posts some tweet from a propagandist on Twitter

Probably from a pro Putin bot no less

[TBayXXXVII 2,483]

Just now, Fnord said:

Sure. A Republican congress would totally have let the Russia allegations and gross violations of the emoluments clause slide for a Dem POTUS. Wouldn't have even talked about it, prolly...

Well, the Republican presidential opponent would've had to have created a false document alluding to Trump being in collusion with Russia, then a conservative FBI lawyer would've had to falsify a legal document to obtain a FISA warrant and Obama would've had to sign off on it before any of that would've happened.  Your opinion on the odds of that happening are what?

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

Hold on, this dude drank a large amount of horse jizz and had to have his stomach pumped?  Is this real, or internet BS?

Jesus you are dumb