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31 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

You wanna try and prove that Venezuelan gangs have taken over apartment buildings in Aurora?

Sure that's easy.  Just look at what the mayor posted on his facebook page:

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Mike Coffman 

August 30th

Aurora to Seek Emergency Court Order to Clear Apartments

The Aurora City Attorney's Office is preparing court documents to request an emergency court order to clear the apartment buildings where Venezuelan gang activity has been occurring by declaring the properties a "Criminal Nuisance."

This will require a municipal judge to issue the order with the goal of getting these properties back under the control of the property owners.

In the meantime, the law enforcement task force set up to disrupt and arrest Venezuelan gang members in these buildings will continue its operations.

The problems associated with Venezuelan gang activity has been isolated to properties that are all under the same out-of-state ownership whose problems with code violations and criminal activity preceded the migrant crisis.

I strongly believe that the best course of action is to shut these building down and make sure that this never happens again.

In the photo taken from video of Venezuelan gang members in an apartment taken on August 18th.

 

It's so neat you have some links to an ABC local news affiliate trying to say that the illegals living there now with the roaches and rats aren't gang members.  A for effort.  But, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  The fact that there has been double digit arrests of gang members kind of laughs in your face.  Like it or not, you let these third world illegals in you get third world problems that come alone with them.  

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8 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Sure that's easy.  Just look at what the mayor posted on his facebook page:

It's so neat you have some links to an ABC local news affiliate trying to say that the illegals living there now with the roaches and rats aren't gang members.  A for effort.  But, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  The fact that there has been double digit arrests of gang members kind of laughs in your face.  Like it or not, you let these third world illegals in you get third world problems that come alone with them.  

If you have out of state slumlords that don't do necessary upgrades to their properties, what problems might arise?

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8 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Sure that's easy.  Just look at what the mayor posted on his facebook page:

It's so neat you have some links to an ABC local news affiliate trying to say that the illegals living there now with the roaches and rats aren't gang members.  A for effort.  But, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  The fact that there has been double digit arrests of gang members kind of laughs in your face.  Like it or not, you let these third world illegals in you get third world problems that come alone with them.  

Look what else is on his facebook page:

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Following yesterday's press conference by the residents of both the troubled Dallas and Helena Street apartment complexes, I agreed to meet with the residents, from both properties, to better understand their concerns and to what extent gang activity is present in the properties as alleged by the owner, CBZ Managment.  The meeting is being organized by the East Colfax Community Collective and it is expected to be scheduled soon. 
The owner, CBZ Management, has reported that control of the apartment buildings was lost to a Venezuelan gang and that the property managers, for both properties, were forced out via threats and intimidation giving Venezuelan gang members control over both apartment complexes. 
When I went through all five buildings of the 12th and Dallas Street apartment complex on Monday, a group of tenants approached me and wanted to talk.  They informed me that they had not been paying rent because there was no longer an onsite property manager who had always collected the rent.  They expressed concerns about the condition of the property and the fact that trash service had been suspended and the garbage was piling up creating foul odors and a rodent infestation.  
None of the tenants, who talked to me yesterday, expressed concern for their safety, nor did they say that they were being forced to pay rent to a third party (i.e. Venezuelan gang members) as alleged by CBZ Management. 
Not sure where the truth is in all of this, but I'll continue to work on it to find out. 

 

And then of course 2 weeks later

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I certainly believe that there were Venezuelan gang related problems, as previously reported, that caused the property managers to flee, and I appreciate the work of the Aurora Police Department (APD) in making multiple arrests related to Venezuelan gang activities.
In my visits to both apartment complexes this week and my subsequent offsite meeting with the tenants, I learned that the tenants, after the property managers left and routine maintenance and services were no longer provided, simply stopped paying rent to the owner and are not paying it to anyone else.  
They want to stay in their apartments and are worried that the apartment complexes will be shut down and they will be forced to leave.  
At this time, I agree with Interim Chief Heather Morris' current assessment that a Venezuelan gang is not in control of either of these two apartment complexes.

 

And then this

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Yesterday afternoon, I walked, unaccompanied, through the six apartment buildings at 12th and Dallas and the three apartment buildings on 13th and Helena.  
In walking through the apartment buildings at both complexes, I went through every floor of every building without incident.

 

More?

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We would like to clear the record about the widely reported presence of Tren de Aragua (TdA) in Aurora and across the metro area. We want to provide an update about the facts of the situation and the Aurora Police Department’s collaborative, ongoing efforts to investigate and aggressively pursue criminal activity linked to TdA members and associates.

As for the perception and reality of public safety in Aurora, please understand that issues experienced at a select few properties do not apply to the city as a whole or large portions of it. TdA has not “taken over” the city. The overstated claims fueled by social media and through select news organizations are simply not true. Again, TdA’s presence in Aurora is limited to specific properties, all of which the city has been addressing in various ways for months.

 

And his latest statement

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“Former President Trump’s visit to Aurora is an opportunity to show him and the nation that Aurora is a considerably safe city – not a city overrun by Venezuelan gangs. My public offer to show him our community and meet with our police chief for a briefing still stands.
The reality is that the concerns about Venezuelan gang activity have been grossly exaggerated. The incidents were limited to several apartment complexes in this city of more than 400,000 residents.”

So now that you know the truth are you man enough to admit you were wrong?

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15 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Look what else is on his facebook page:

 

And then of course 2 weeks later

 

And then this

 

More?

And his latest statement

So now that you know the truth are you man enough to admit you were wrong?

  That's several weeks after the police sweeps. You can't just point to how it is today and say it's always been like that.  There is a nice little timeline and everything.  Here let me help Tiny Brain.  Since this highly politicized these are the questions you should be asking:

Are the people living in these roach motels illegal?  YES

Are the people living in these roach motels victims of crime?  YES

Were there crimes and gang related activities attributed to the roach motels?  YES

Were there members of the gang found and arrested?  YES

Do third world illegals bring their third world trash with them?  YES

HTH!

[TrailGuy 552]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

  That's several weeks after the police sweeps. You can't just point to how it is today and say it's always been like that.  There is a nice little timeline and everything.  Here let me help Tiny Brain.  Since this highly politicized these are the questions you should be asking:

Are the people living in these roach motels illegal?  YES

Are the people living in these roach motels victims of crime?  YES

Were there crimes and gang related activities attributed to the roach motels?  YES

Were there members of the gang found and arrested?  YES

Do third world illegals bring their third world trash with them?  YES

HTH!

So you're not many enough to admit it.  Good to know.

At no point were the apartment buildings taken over by gangs.  The residents, the mayor, the police all agree on this.  You believe Trump.  Cuck.

Aware me any statement other than Trump that the apartment buildings were controlled by gangs.

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1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

So you're not many enough to admit it.  Good to know.

At no point were the apartment buildings taken over by gangs.  The residents, the mayor, the police all agree on this.  You believe Trump.  Cuck.

Aware me any statement other than Trump that the apartment buildings were controlled by gangs.

You like third world trash in your neighborhood.  I don't.  It's really that simple.

What is it you like, the drugs?  Ghey sex?  

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[TrailGuy 552]

Just now, Horseman said:

You like third world trash in you neighborhood.  I don't.  It's really that simple.

What is it you like, the drugs?  Ghey sex?  

 Not a man

[Horseman 2,369]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

 Not a man

Strikes a nerve.  

Let's move on.  Next is our secret word of the day.  

Word of the day: colostomy  

[TrailGuy 552]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Strikes a nerve.  

Let's move on.  Next is our secret word of the day.  

Word of the day: colostomy  

Stick to your love of gay porn and not being able to afford $7 streams.

 

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Gutter boy trounced once again. 

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4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Stick to your love of gay porn and not being able to afford $7 streams.

 

Slow day at the shirtless bodybuilding site?  

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14 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

So you're not many enough to admit it.  Good to know.

At no point were the apartment buildings taken over by gangs.  The residents, the mayor, the police all agree on this.  You believe Trump.  Cuck.

Aware me any statement other than Trump that the apartment buildings were controlled by gangs.

Just thought I'd point out that you bolded the wrong part here earlier:

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As for the perception and reality of public safety in Aurora, please understand that issues experienced at a select few properties do not apply to the city as a whole or large portions of it. TdA has not “taken over” the city. The overstated claims fueled by social media and through select news organizations are simply not true. Again, TdA’s presence in Aurora is limited to specific properties, all of which the city has been addressing in various ways for months.

I left your bolded, and used red to point out the relevant part.  The part Vance biotch-slapped the ABC reporter with.  Harris knows it, the DNC knows it, that's why they're flanking hard on being tough on illegal immigration.  

But, they're leaving pseuds like you, the Gammas and Deltas of their Brave New World, to fight the ground war with the straw man of "they haven't taken over the entire city ARGGGHHHH!"

Sad for you, boyo.

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hello Lorne? Yeah this is Deep State Charlie. You guys have the green light to go after Biden now! OK thanks!!

If you think SNL attacks Biden and/or Harris like they have Trump for the past 8 years, you are Squissy-level blue-pilled.

[TrailGuy 552]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Just thought I'd point out that you bolded the wrong part here earlier:

I left your bolded, and used red to point out the relevant part.  The part Vance biotch-slapped the ABC reporter with.  Harris knows it, the DNC knows it, that's why they're flanking hard on being tough on illegal immigration.  

But, they're leaving pseuds like you, the Gammas and Deltas of their Brave New World, to fight the ground war with the straw man of "they haven't taken over the entire city ARGGGHHHH!"

Sad for you, boyo.

Nothing wrong here.  Did they take over any apartment buildings?  Did they take over the city?

Trump has claimed yes they did.  The answer to both is no.  Proven.

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1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

Nothing wrong here.  Did they take over any apartment buildings?  Did they take over the city?

Trump has claimed yes they did.  The answer to both is no.  Proven.

Nothing is proven.  You are being a good pseud Gamma (giving you the benefit of the higher rank here), trying to engage on the nitpick of the definition of "take over."  The question is:  Is there significant presence and influence of these gangs in these apartments?  The answer is an indisputable Yes. 

Most of America understand this as a problem, and an example of a larger problem, which is why Harris and the DNC have done a 180 on illegal immigration.  But keep up the good fight, boyo!  Your comrades appreciate it.   

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1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Nothing is proven.  You are being a good pseud Gamma (giving you the benefit of the higher rank here), trying to engage on the nitpick of the definition of "take over."  The question is:  Is there significant presence and influence of these gangs in these apartments?  The answer is an indisputable Yes. 

What evidence do you have to prove an indisputable Yes?

What I have shown is that the mayor, the police and the residents of the apartment all say that this is not the case.

Here is more evidence supporting my statements: https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/aurora-colo-police-identity-10-tren-de-aragua-gang-members-operating-in-city-colorado-venezuela-immigration-southern-border-crime

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Last month, Aurora City Councilwoman Danielle Jurinsky told The National Desk (TND) that the gang took over a separate apartment complex from the one mentioned in the police’s announcement.

The agency noted, however, that Tren de Aragua activity was “isolated.”

“It would be improper at this time for the city and APD to make any conclusory statements about specific incidents or provide details about law enforcement strategy and operations,” the department wrote on X. “Based on our initial investigative work, we believe reports of TdA influence in Aurora are isolated.”

 

So let's see what you got or maybe you are man enough to admit that you're wrong.

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8 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Nothing wrong here.  Did they take over any apartment buildings?  Did they take over the city?

Trump has claimed yes they did.  The answer to both is no.  Proven.

Did we ever get your psychoanalyzed answer as to why you continually return to hang out where you're not wanted, getting an untold number of aliases banned in the process, multiple message boards?  Something from your childhood maybe?  Abusive relationship?

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2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Did we ever get your psychoanalyzed answer as to why you continually return to hang out where you're not wanted, getting an untold number of aliases banned in the process, multiple message boards?  Something from your childhood maybe?  Abusive relationship?

Did we ever get your psychoanalyzed answer as to why you can't afford $7 streams and love gay porn?

[jerryskids 6,573]

8 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

What evidence do you have to prove an indisputable Yes?

What I have shown is that the mayor, the police and the residents of the apartment all say that this is not the case.

Here is more evidence supporting my statements: https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/aurora-colo-police-identity-10-tren-de-aragua-gang-members-operating-in-city-colorado-venezuela-immigration-southern-border-crime

So let's see what you got or maybe you are man enough to admit that you're wrong.

I literally posted it for you, in red and everything.   

Also, you clearly didn't read your own link.  After discussing all of the crimes committed by the TnD criminals, it ends with this:

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Aurora officers have been investigating reports that Tren de Aragua has attacked members of the migrant community, the department added. Last month, Aurora City Councilwoman Danielle Jurinsky told The National Desk (TND) that the gang took over a separate apartment complex from the one mentioned in the police’s announcement.

The agency noted, however, that Tren de Aragua activity was “isolated.”

“It would be improper at this time for the city and APD to make any conclusory statements about specific incidents or provide details about law enforcement strategy and operations,” the department wrote on X. “Based on our initial investigative work, we believe reports of TdA influence in Aurora are isolated.”

So they've taken over multiple apartment buildings, or to use GroupSpeak, their influence is "isolated."

I'm out, I forgot that Gammas can't read.  Keep up the fight!

[TrailGuy 552]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I literally posted it for you, in red and everything.   

Also, you clearly didn't read your own link.  After discussing all of the crimes committed by the TnD criminals, it ends with this:

So they've taken over multiple apartment buildings, or to use GroupSpeak, their influence is "isolated."

I'm out, I forgot that Gammas can't read.  Keep up the fight!

Your red text supports my statements.  It even says isolated.

So you're going to use the statement of a Councilwoman that has since been proven false by the mayor, police and residents of the buildings.  Sad.

Can't admit you are wring. You're not a real man either boyo.  

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TrailGayGuy thoroughly destroyed here. Glad I could help. 

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4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Did we ever get your psychoanalyzed answer as to why you can't afford $7 streams and love gay porn?

That one is obvious, it being a lie. It's something you tell your superiority complex seemingly as it serves no other purpose or effect.  

Seriously though.  Even the other libs here hate you.  What gives?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,949]

TrailGayGuy thoroughly destroyed here. Glad I could help. 

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

TrailGayGuy thoroughly destroyed here. Glad I could help. 

It's so terribly easy to do it too.  It's like arguing with a retarded child. 

[Horseman 2,369]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

TrailGayGuy thoroughly destroyed here. Glad I could help. 

Seriously, signing up as TrailGuy or BeachGuy on a male dominated message board?    

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Just now, Horseman said:

Seriously, signing up as TrailGuy or BeachGuy on a male dominated message board?      

Plus he has a tiny house. Loser. 

[jerryskids 6,573]

29 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Your red text supports my statements.  It even says isolated.

So you're going to use the statement of a Councilwoman that has since been proven false by the mayor, police and residents of the buildings.  Sad.

Can't admit you are wring. You're not a real man either boyo.  

I explained it quite well in my first post to you on this.  I had forgotten how insufferable you are in these discussions; incapable of reading basic sentences, and instead just regurgitating your pseud talking points and claiming the win.  That's on me.

Tell you what, you win, boyo.  TnD is not an issue in Aurora, and America doesn't see it as an example of the bad effects of unfettered illegal immigration.  Congrats!   

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[HellToupee 1,591]

It’s looking like the DNC decided early that the odds of them winning was  a long shot so they elevated kamala to either fake the rubes to go all in and pull off a miracle or rid themselves of her for 2028 

[edjr 6,578]

4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Are you guys stupid or something? SNL makes fun of everybody. That’s their thing

 

[Horseman 2,369]

538 is such a joke now.  They need 4 polls in a row from NYT/Sienna to keep PA and Kamala in the lead.

Meanwhile the betting odds just keep getting worse for her.  -145 and -150 Trump now at the offshores.  

[jerryskids 6,573]

1 hour ago, Horseman said:

 

 

I'll say again:  a state that was so close 4 years that they needed 110% of wards in Philly voting for Biden, and higher courts allowing them to violate their constitution to allow undated and late votes, is not going to elect a candidate who has openly opposed fracking until it was politically bad, and who comes from the administration responsible for the current economy.  It just makes no sense.  I'm sure my Lefties will have an opposing argument, tho.   

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Who are these people being polled? I've literally never been polled.  I vote every year.  Is it just lonely old people who answer cold calls on their land lines? 

[Horseman 2,369]

1 minute ago, purdygood said:

Who are these people being polled? I've literally never been polled.  I vote every year.  Is it just lonely old people who answer cold calls on their land lines? 

Their methodology is posted on their respective websites and with each published poll.  I encourage you to do a little reading.  

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I read online that Harris has 98% of the dead vote locked up.

[purdygood 334]

Just now, Horseman said:

Their methodology is posted on their respective websites and with each published poll.  I encourage you to do a little reading.  

Again, I'm 43 years old. Have voted in every election since i turned 18. Never been polled once.   I don't Trust a poll regardless of "methodology". 

[avoiding injuries 1,511]

3 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Who are these people being polled? I've literally never been polled.  I vote every year.  Is it just lonely old people who answer cold calls on their land lines? 

I remember posting something similar when McCain was trailing Obama. 

[thegeneral 2,915]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'll say again:  a state that was so close 4 years that they needed 110% of wards in Philly voting for Biden, and higher courts allowing them to violate their constitution to allow undated and late votes, is not going to elect a candidate who has openly opposed fracking until it was politically bad, and who comes from the administration responsible for the current economy.  It just makes no sense.  I'm sure my Lefties will have an opposing argument, tho.   

110% voting!

[Reality 3,100]

Clinton earlier and now Walz... Oh boy.