Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[TimHauck 2,731]

10 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

 

It doesn’t necessarily mean that.  Here is Hinchcliffe telling Rogan that he hid material ahead of the Tom Brady roast, probably did the same here

 

 

[jbycho 754]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It doesn’t necessarily mean that.  Here is Hinchcliffe telling Rogan that he hid material ahead of the Tom Brady roast, probably did the same here

 

 

Is that what you go on now? "He probably did something"? 

[TimHauck 2,731]

7 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Is that what you go on now? "He probably did something"? 

I’m trying to defend your hero, dummy

[Gepetto 1,354]

28 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

You actually thought this was funny?

Swing and a miss by me.

[jonmx 2,425]

 

This election will be over as soon as they call PA for Trump at 10:27 on election night.   

[Horseman 2,438]

Facts

 

 

[TimHauck 2,731]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Facts

 

 

First paragraph is a fact.

Second paragraph is a faulty conclusion due to different circumstances (conservatives being more willing to do early voting this time around).

[Horseman 2,438]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

First paragraph is a fact.

Second paragraph is a faulty conclusion due to different circumstances (conservatives being more willing to do early voting this time around).

Trend vs Conclusion 

Consult a dictionary. 

Trump -190. Fact. 

[jonmx 2,425]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

First paragraph is a fact.

Second paragraph is a faulty conclusion due to different circumstances (conservatives being more willing to do early voting this time around).

Don't worry, you will be able to go to bed early on election night knowing that Trump won.  

[lickin_starfish 1,919]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

Don't worry, you will be able to go to bed early on election night knowing that Trump won.  

And four days later, Kamela will be pulling ahead.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,236]

When Trump wins I hope the US can help Canada free itself from its authoritarian leader problems.

[TimHauck 2,731]

5 hours ago, Horseman said:

Trend vs Conclusion 

Consult a dictionary. 

Trump -190. Fact. 

It’s not a legitimate trend if the circumstances for the comparison have changed.

It’s certainly good news for Trump.  But it’s not evidence there’s going to be a “crushing victory.”

[TimHauck 2,731]

Another factor in the early voting shift is Covid.  We know Dems took Covid more seriously which would mean they’d be more likely to do early voting in 2020.

Of the “+435k” cited by Musk, it’s due to Republicans specifically being up about +100k.  The rest is a decline from Democrats, likely driven by no more covid.

Data is great, but it doesn’t mean much without being able to properly analyze it.  Lessons for life losers.

[TrailGuy 554]

41 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It’s not a legitimate trend if the circumstances for the comparison have changed.

It’s certainly good news for Trump.  But it’s not evidence there’s going to be a “crushing victory.”

Pea brain struggles with logic

[Hardcore troubadour 15,274]

 Virginia and Minnesota in play. 

[TrailGuy 554]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/us/politics/puerto-rico-gop-chairman-trump-msg.html

Just keeps getting worse and worse for Trump.

Election day is gonna be a landslide.

[TimHauck 2,731]

Just now, TrailGuy said:

 

Election day is gonna be a landslide.

No it’s not 

[TrailGuy 554]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No it’s not 

300+ EV.  Book it.

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

7 hours ago, jonmx said:

 

This election will be over as soon as they call PA for Trump at 10:27 on election night.   

Trump will win PA.

99% sure it won't be called on Election Night

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

It’s not a legitimate trend if the circumstances for the comparison have changed.

It’s certainly good news for Trump.  But it’s not evidence there’s going to be a “crushing victory.”

It's also unknown from the table how many of those people are new voters versus the same old voters.

For example, in 2020 there were ~3.4 million votes cast for Trump in PA. At this point 352,000 votes cast. In 2024 we are at 447,000 but are those all new voters or are some of them people who would've cast their vote normally at the polls but decided this year to do it ahead of time? That's harder to measure out. 

[RLLD 4,200]

57 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Trump will win PA.

99% sure it won't be called on Election Night

On what do you base this assertion?

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

On what do you base this assertion?

On the first one just an overall feeling based off what I'm seeing in the state.

On the second one- PA does not start counting ballots until the day of which essentially means they are running two polling stations at once and if the final total is within like .5% they automatically recount. There will almost assuredly be a recount requested by one side unless the numbers are so out of reach- but considering the last two differences have been 44K and 71K- I can't see that being an issue

[Horseman 2,438]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

Pea brain struggles with logic

Like 8 billion people. Or trying to figure out if you should cash out your 200k when you lost your job?

[TrailGuy 554]

Muh fraud also the "2600" ballots are likely him committing fraud, and it was caught.

Trump is losing PA.  He's losing the election.  And he's gonna cry whine sue and fight about it all over again.

[TrailGuy 554]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Like 8 billion people. Or trying to figure out if you should cash out your 200k when you lost your job?

Washington is red.  Kamala called trump vermin.  Can't afford a $7 stream.

[Horseman 2,438]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

Washington is red.  Kamala called trump vermin.  Can't afford a $7 stream.

What about your 200k though finance guy?   

[TrailGuy 554]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

What about your 200k though finance guy?   

What about your gay porn heterosexual guy?

[Horseman 2,438]

21 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

What about your gay porn heterosexual guy?

Concentrate here little buddy, in reality, not make believe.  You asked the question, in real life, just wondering what you decided.  

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

Interrupting the slap fight:

The last time PA, WI, MI did not all vote together was 1988. That year PA and MI voted for Bush and WI voted for Dukakis. 

That election was also the last time a sitting Vice President was elected President. 

 

[jbycho 754]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Concentrate here little buddy, in reality, not make believe.  You asked the question, in real life, just wondering what you decided.  

Sounds like he's looking for you to set him up on a date. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,805]

Is @TrailGuya Boyo imposter?  Boyo was much more creative in his posts.  If someone is impersonating Boyo, I don’t love this for you.  it’s SAD!!!!

 

 

[HellToupee 1,715]

5 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Is @TrailGuya Boyo imposter?  Boyo was much more creative in his posts.  If someone is impersonating Boyo, I don’t love this for you.  it’s SAD!!!!

 

 

I loved it for boyo. This guy seems like a low T version of boyo, very low T. 
 

indeed it is SAD!!!

[Death 301]

10 hours ago, jonmx said:

 

This election will be over as soon as they call PA for Trump at 10:27 on election night.   

Tell that to the 620,000 Puerto Ricans who live in Pennsylvania. They are fired the fock up.

Florida also has a huge Puerto Rican population, and Hispanics are happy about that racist joke as well.

 

[supermike80 1,887]

1 minute ago, Death said:

Tell that to the 620,000 Puerto Ricans who live in Pennsylvania. They are fired the fock up.

Florida also has a huge Puerto Rican population, and Hispanics are happy about that racist joke as well.

 

All 620,000???  Or just the ones you see on twitter???  

[Tree of Knowledge 1,805]

9 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

I loved it for boyo. This guy seems like a low T version of boyo, very low T. 
 

indeed it is SAD!!!

One way to make sure:

 

@TrailGuy if someone wants to bench 225 as a warmup, how many 45 pound plates are on the bar?

[supermike80 1,887]

Let's see if I can summarize:

Trump is a dictator!!---Didn't take

Trump is a fascist!!--Didn't take

Trump is hitler!!-- Didnt take

A comedian at trumps rally made a puerto rican joke...  YES!!! Thats the one..we got him nowwwwwwwww

[Death 301]

8 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

All 620,000???  Or just the ones you see on twitter???  

I don't follow X. I follow stories from reputable news sources that MAGA dismisses because facts make them butt hurt.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgj7689v757o

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"[The joke] just put it in the bag for us. He literally just gave us the win," said Jessie Ramos, a Harris supporter. "He has no idea how hard the Latino community is going to come out and support Kamala Harris."

 

[supermike80 1,887]

Soooo one harris supporter.   Did the BBC interview a Trump supporter who said the opposite?

Nah.   Doubtful 

[HellToupee 1,715]

Looks like Harris is pulling ads out of North Carolina 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

Interesting thoughts from Isaac Schorr:

Quote

 

To write about American politics in the age of Trump is to be vexed by the question of how to cover its defining figure.

On the one hand, the plain truth that Donald Trump is both a cause and symptom of America’s increasingly fraught and dysfunctional system seems axiomatic. It is also ground that has been covered ceaselessly — and often hysterically — by the press for the duration of his political career.

But on the other, much of the right remains reluctant to so much as acknowledge the former president’s manifold faults. Once again, its institutions and power brokers have not only coalesced behind, but surrendered themselves wholly to him, subordinating their purported purpose of advocating timeless principles to act as vehicles of his will.

So with Trump standing on the precipice of power again fewer than four years after his sore loser syndrome and lies inspired a mob to storm the U.S. Capitol Building and threaten the life of his own vice president — and so many so-called conservatives giddy about the prospect — it is more than worth once again articulating the conservative case against him.

It is this author’s belief that Trump will defeat Vice President Kamala Harris next month. Polling suggests that the race between the two is a toss-up, but Trump easily outperformed the polls in 2016 and 2020. Moreover, surveys have been moving steadily in his direction over the course of the last month of the campaign, and Harris has resorted to increasingly desperate closing messages about Trump’s cognitive state and resemblance to 20th-century fascists. For these reasons, it can be reasonably argued that Trump is the clear favorite in roughly the same way that Hillary Clinton was the favorite eight years ago.

Assuming that Trump does prevail, conservatives will have much to reckon with. Indeed, they will have more, on balance, to mourn about his victory than they will to celebrate.

That’s not to submit that a Harris victory would be preferable or to shame voters for whatever decision they arrive at. The vice president is the most progressive major party nominee in American history. She would champion exaggerated versions of all of Joe Biden’s disastrous economic policies, leave the southern border open, and be an uncredible commander-in-chief to our allies and enemies alike. She believes in abortion on-demand up until the moment of birth, would continue to allow radical gender ideology to shape the medical establishment’s treatment of confused children, and is a proud opponent of religious freedom.

Ruling her out, or deciding to back Trump on any of those bases is more than understandable. On policy, it is inarguable Trump will do a lot more to please even the old right than Harris would.

But to characterize Trump’s reelection as anything other than, at best, the lesser of two evil eventualities is to lie to oneself.

On the heels of the January 6 Capitol riot, Senate Republicans had the opportunity to end Trump’s political career then and there. Trump’s outrageous lies about the 2020 election, which culminated in violence that he egged on, should have been more than enough to disqualify him from running for office again. There were undoubtedly Republican senators who agreed, but nevertheless failed to express that by voting for his conviction for fear of the political reprisal that would await them.

GOP voters had the opportunity to correct for their representatives’ cowardice during the presidential primary but ultimately decided to prove them right, picking Trump over more competent and ideologically solid choices like Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, each of whom would doubtlessly be equally as well, if not better positioned in the presidential race.

At two crucial veto points, conservatives declined to make what should have been the easy choice, opting for more schadenfreude-heavy showmanship over the best interest of the country.

It is also the case that a second Trump term will inevitably be worse than the the first. While his first administration had men whose patriotism outweighed their ambition in key positions, including the vice presidency, this coming one will not. Mike Pence sacrificed his political career by refusing to go along with Trump’s scheme to steal the 2020 election. JD Vance has not only criticized Pence for doing so, but smeared him as a bloodthirsty warmonger to gain Trump’s affection. To have men of similarly low character as the 45th president surrounding the 47th does not bode well.

Trump’s decision to tap Vance as his running mate also suggests that he will not govern as a Reaganite Republican. The Ohio senator is strident in his opposition to aiding the cause of Ukraine, but will gladly throw pro-lifers under the bus. He’s a fan of the Biden administration’s regulator-in-chief, Lina Khan, and a critic of free-marketeers. When he speaks, Vance sounds much more like a Jimmy Carter Democrat than the man who cleaned up after his mess.

With his retreat on the abortion issue and mealy-mouthed posture toward Russia, Trump oftentimes sounds like the same.

The right has collectively already made its choice about who to throw its weight behind this year. Faced with two bad options, it has made a determination about which is better — time will tell if it is proven correct.

In the meantime, conservatives owe it to themselves and their countrymen to be clear-eyed about that decision — and prepare to deal with its ramifications.