When does Biden get impeached for withholding aid to Isreal?

[Ron_Artest 766]

12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Even the dude who called out Biden for being too old and forgetful in his report called out the differences between the doc cases.  

One guy fully cooperated, the other guy lied and tried to keep the files, move the files, showed people the files, etc.

It's clear to anyone with a brain.

[BeachGuy23 575]

14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Looking into corruption. And of course, he was right. Unless you think it’s only ok when Biden does it. 

Looking for "corruption" specifically into his upcoming oponent.

You can't make the stupidity of cultist up.

They are just massive cucks to the fat, orange bish. 

[BeachGuy23 575]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

One guy fully cooperated, the other guy lied and tried to keep the files, move the files, showed people the files, etc.

It's clear to anyone with a brain.

Cultist don't have the mental horsepower to distinguish between acts.

They're moronic cucks.  Every last one of them.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,867]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

He was wrong, there is was nothing, and he withhled aid to benefit himself politically.  That is why he was impeached.

You approve this because you suck trump dik.

Another one that believes that the Burisma/ Hunter situation was on the level. Ok Gutterboy. You prove again that you love your ignorance. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,867]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

One guy fully cooperated, the other guy lied and tried to keep the files, move the files, showed people the files, etc.

It's clear to anyone with a brain.

One guy was never allowed to have them in the first place. That’s a crime. A serious one. 

[Ron_Artest 766]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Another one that believes that the Burisma/ Hunter situation was on the level. Ok Gutterboy. You prove again that you love your ignorance. 

Why haven't they impeached Biden?

Suck that dik you retard.

[BeachGuy23 575]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Another one that believes that the Burisma/ Hunter situation was on the level. Ok Gutterboy. You prove again that you love your ignorance. 

LOLOLOLOLOL

It was on the level you orange nosed cuck.

Trump had 4 years to do something about if it wasn't.

Please stay online as long as possible each day.

[Ron_Artest 766]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

One guy was never allowed to have them in the first place. That’s a crime. A serious one. 

Neither of them were allowed to have the files you dumb sh1t

[Maximum Overkill 773]

 

[thegeneral 1,491]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No corruption in Ukraine. What a dope. 

You should contact Jim Jordan and Cormer with your information. They could use your help with all this! It seems like you have the proof.  

[thegeneral 1,491]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

One guy was never allowed to have them in the first place. That’s a crime. A serious one. 

Wrong.

[jerryskids 5,298]

46 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Even the dude who called out Biden for being too old and forgetful in his report called out the differences between the doc cases.  

I said there were differences; that was an important part of my point.  The question is:  did he not bring charges because of those differences, or because Biden is old and decrepit?

19 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Wrong.

What Biden did wasn't a crime?   

[thegeneral 1,491]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I said there were differences; that was an important part of my point.  The question is:  did he not bring charges because of those differences, or because Biden is old and decrepit?

What Biden did wasn't a crime?   

They did not bring charges against Biden while they did against Trump because of the coverup, for lack of a better word, by Trump. That is why Trump was charged. Hur pointed this out.

Hur very nicely added that he didn’t think Biden would be good candidate to be prosecuted after he left the WH because he could be found to be a nice forgetful old man.

[jerryskids 5,298]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

They did not bring charges against Biden while they did against Trump because of the coverup, for lack of a better word, by Trump. That is why Trump was charged. Hur pointed this out.

Hur very nicely added that he didn’t think Biden would be good candidate to be prosecuted after he left the WH because he could be found to be a nice forgetful old man.

You seem to know more about the Hur report than I:  did he say anything about Biden having documents offsite which should never have been in his possession in the first place?  That seems like another difference vis a vis Trump.   

[thegeneral 1,491]

50 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You seem to know more about the Hur report than I:  did he say anything about Biden having documents offsite which should never have been in his possession in the first place?  That seems like another difference vis a vis Trump.   

Trump was not supposed to have these docs either. That is the issue with him versus Biden - Trump was willfully retaining them, I believe is the term used. 

Trump returned some docs. But they knew he had more and he was asked to comply. He then among other things asked people to move them around, he showed them to people, etc. That is why his place was eventually raided, they found them and why he was eventually charged. 

Biden had these and then returned them. He allowed the Feds to investigate his place, basically what everyone does, except Trump who thinks he’s special and a victim all the time. 

 

 

[The Real timschochet 3,103]

This isn’t “Biden’s Vietnam.” 

While there are some apt comparisons to the Vietnam protests, it’s not the same for one major reason: there’s no draft. Students may be sympathetic to the Palestinians but they don’t have to fear being sent to the Middle East. 

[Engorgeous George 1,240]

4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

One guy fully cooperated, the other guy lied and tried to keep the files, move the files, showed people the files, etc.

It's clear to anyone with a brain.

Trump kept the files for what, two years.  Biden had them for decades.  Trump moved the files around Mara Lago, Biden moved them to numerous locations besides his unsecured home including if memory holds maybe China Town and Penn.  Trump showed them to hussies and potential donors or to anyone he could to enhance his self-esteem.  Biden to a biographer to enhance his place in history (I wonder if he told the biographer about the cannibals?)

 

You are trying to draw distinctions which are not realy there. This is not to excuse Trump, but to hold Biden responsible as well.  Frankly they should hold Pence and any others responsible as well.  Playing fast and loose with secured documents ought to be a high crime, for all who do so.

[jerryskids 5,298]

15 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Trump was not supposed to have these docs either. That is the issue with him versus Biden - Trump was willfully retaining them, I believe is the term used. 

Trump returned some docs. But they knew he had more and he was asked to comply. He then among other things asked people to move them around, he showed them to people, etc. That is why his place was eventually raided, they found them and why he was eventually charged. 

Biden had these and then returned them. He allowed the Feds to investigate his place, basically what everyone does, except Trump who thinks he’s special and a victim all the time. 

 

 

Depends on your definition of "have".  Trump was allowed access to them, the "have" was having them offsite, without declassification.  Biden should not have had them period, offsite or not.

@Engorgeous Georgehad a great post listing other issues.  HTH

[thegeneral 1,491]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Depends on your definition of "have".  Trump was allowed access to them, the "have" was having them offsite, without declassification.  Biden should not have had them period, offsite or not.

@Engorgeous Georgehad a great post listing other issues.  HTH

My take on this is they give these people great leeway when it comes to these docs. The bar to get in trouble is incredibly low - like don’t try and hide them from us, don’t get caught lying about it, don’t give us proof that you know you have them after we ask.

Trump didn’t meet that bar because he’s a super genius. If he gave them back this wouldn’t have happened. 

[zsasz 206]

Sad how much on TILT Biden has these guys.  The Comeback Kid isn't even trying and these MAGA guys are all clutching the pearls over him.

 

Better get used to it.  You got 4 more years of it.  

[Hardcore troubadour 12,867]

2 minutes ago, zsasz said:

Sad how much on TILT Biden has these guys.  The Comeback Kid isn't even trying and these MAGA guys are all clutching the pearls over him.

 

Better get used to it.  You got 4 more years of it.  

Kamala

[Horseman 1,571]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

You seem to know more about the Hur report than I:  did he say anything about Biden having documents offsite which should never have been in his possession in the first place?  That seems like another difference vis a vis Trump.   

I've read the report. 

Not only did Biden have them offsite he directed his staff to make copies of all his note cards that had classified info on them when he knew he wasn't going to be allowed to take them. He kept all of his notebooks that he should have volunteered to turn over.  Then he showed them to his ghost writer and joked about things being top secret.  Top secret documents were stored insecure in about 5 different locations.  

The third piece, that I can't remember exactly, besides the note cards and notbooks was a folder on plans for Afghanistan. For some reason it was central to his book. 

Hur did mention that Trump was different because Trump didn't cooperate fully. He also said Biden was too old and incompetent to be tried.  He could not remember important dates and aligned events together that were decades apart.  

[Ron_Artest 766]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I've read the report. 

He also said Biden was too old and incompetent to be tried.  

No he didn't and no you didn't.

[Horseman 1,571]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

No he didn't and no you didn't.

Biden showed top secret info to his ghost writer and showered with his daughter.  Two facts your tiny brain can't come to grips with.  

[thegeneral 1,491]

25 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I've read the report. 

Not only did Biden have them offsite he directed his staff to make copies of all his note cards that had classified info on them when he knew he wasn't going to be allowed to take them. He kept all of his notebooks that he should have volunteered to turn over.  Then he showed them to his ghost writer and joked about things being top secret.  Top secret documents were stored insecure in about 5 different locations.  

Hur did mention that Trump was different because Trump didn't cooperate fully. He also said Biden was too old and incompetent to be tried.  He could not remember important dates and aligned events together that were decades apart.  

Glossing over this quite a bit. This is relevant to this why was Trump charged and Biden was not convo.

Hur laid out material and clear distinctions between the Trump and Biden cases. Trump was given multiple chances to return classified docs and avoid prosecution. He passed. He did the opposite, he obstructed justice by working with subordinates to destroy evidence and then lie about it. 

This is why Trump was charged. 

[Horseman 1,571]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Glossing over this quite a bit. This is relevant to this why was Trump charged and Biden was not convo.

Hur laid out material and clear distinctions between the Trump and Biden. Trump was given multiple chances to return classified docs and avoid prosecution. He passed. He did the opposite, he obstructed justice by working with subordinates to destroy evidence and then lie about it. 

This is why Trump was charged. 

Biden's ghost writer destroyed evidence as well.  Biden likely wouldn't be found complicit though because Biden couldn't even remember what years he was VP or when his son died.  

That is why Biden wasn't charged.  

[Pimpadeaux 2,305]

19 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Biden showed top secret info to his ghost writer and showered with his daughter.  Two facts your tiny brain can't come to grips with.  

Nah, and Trumpestuous focks women and little girls who look like his daughter.

[thegeneral 1,491]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Biden's ghost writer destroyed evidence as well.  Biden likely wouldn't be found complicit though because Biden couldn't even remember what years he was VP or when his son died.  

That is why Biden wasn't charged.  

So we agree why Trump was charged? He obstructed justice. He’s sloppy and made it easy across multiple occasions. 

As I recall, for Biden and his ghostwriter Hur determined neither should be charged because it was not something that he deemed where intent could be provable - like the Trump case. The stuff about Biden being a nice old man who can’t remember things Hur determined would be additional factors as to why he would not be found guilty by a jury when he was no longer Prez.

[Horseman 1,571]

Just now, thegeneral said:

So we agree why Trump was charged? He obstructed justice. He’s sloppy and made it easy across multiple occasions. 

As I recall, for Biden and his ghostwriter Hur determined neither should be charged because it was not something that he deemed where intent could be provable - like the Trump case. The stuff about Biden being a nice old man who can’t remember things Hur determined would be additional factors as to why he would not be found guilty by a jury when he was no longer Prez.

Intent?  Deleting recordings require you hit the delete button moron.  

But per usual whatever you have to make up to justify it in your tiny brain. 

[thegeneral 1,491]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Intent?  Deleting recordings require you hit the delete button moron.  

But per usual whatever you have to make up to justify it in your tiny brain. 

Now now, don’t get all bitchy and defensive with me. We are having a good convo here.

Trump obstructed justice this is why he was charged. You seem to agree with this.

For this ghostwriter issue you are steering this towards Hur did say the guy deleted stuff after this became public. He also said the guy gave explanations for why he did that and additionally gave notes and the hard drive from the computer that was used for the recordings.

Hur did not recommend charging the guy.

Again, the bar for people is so low when you have good lawyers. Trump is a total dumbass who made it easy. He’s sloppy.

The case will not come to trial before the election it looks like so he’ll perhaps slide but he’s busted here.

[jerryskids 5,298]

2 hours ago, zsasz said:

Sad how much on TILT Biden has these guys.  The Comeback Kid isn't even trying and these MAGA guys are all clutching the pearls over him.

 

Better get used to it.  You got 4 more years of it.  

Comeback Kid?   

[jerryskids 5,298]

48 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Now now, don’t get all bitchy and defensive with me. We are having a good convo here.

Trump obstructed justice this is why he was charged. You seem to agree with this.

For this ghostwriter issue you are steering this towards Hur did say the guy deleted stuff after this became public. He also said the guy gave explanations for why he did that and additionally gave notes and the hard drive from the computer that was used for the recordings.

Hur did not recommend charging the guy.

Again, the bar for people is so low when you have good lawyers. Trump is a total dumbass who made it easy. He’s sloppy.

The case will not come to trial before the election it looks like so he’ll perhaps slide but he’s busted here.

Just wondering, if a person were to set up an illegal server with access to confidential info, and upon being confronted, smashed phones and lobotomized computers... would this be obstruction of justice?

[thegeneral 1,491]

Just now, jerryskids said:

Just wondering, if a person were to set up an illegal server with access to confidential info, and upon being confronted, smashed phones and lobotomized computers... would this be obstruction of justice?

Ok so we have moved on from Biden and have agreed on Trump it seems.

In Hillary’s case, similarly to Biden, Pence etc, the Feds did not determine there was clear evidence that Hillary intended to violate laws.

Trump did by getting busted moving the stuff, trying to cover that up, talking about the docs he said he didn’t have, then getting caught with the things when they raided his house.

You can read all this stuff and it is pretty crazy to me how fockkng stupidly Trump handle himself with these docs. He was given so much rope, like others, and didn’t take it.

 

 

[jerryskids 5,298]

18 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Ok so we have moved on from Biden and have agreed on Trump it seems.

In Hillary’s case, similarly to Biden, Pence etc, the Feds did not determine there was clear evidence that Hillary intended to violate laws.

Trump did by getting busted moving the stuff, trying to cover that up, talking about the docs he said he didn’t have, then getting caught with the things when they raided his house.

You can read all this stuff and it is pretty crazy to me how fockkng stupidly Trump handle himself with these docs. He was given so much rope, like others, and didn’t take it.

 

 

No, we haven't.

And if your response to "why didn't the feds do anything about Hillary's clear crimes" is "the feds decided not to do anything about Hillary's clear crimes," that's Spinal Tap "this one goes to 11" territory.

Otherwise, good post, good effort.

[thegeneral 1,491]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

No, we haven't.

And if your response to "why didn't the feds do anything about Hillary's clear crimes" is "the feds decided not to do anything about Hillary's clear crimes," that's Spinal Tap "this one goes to 11" territory.

Otherwise, good post, good effort.

Why pivot to Hillary then and not acknowledge what I wrote about Biden?

Why do you think Trump was charged and Biden was not or Hillary was not?

[Ron_Artest 766]

6 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Why pivot to Hillary then and not acknowledge what I wrote about Biden?

Why do you think Trump was charged and Biden was not or Hillary was not?

They think it's all political, and they try like hell with the whataboutism to support their opinion all while ignoring the facts of each individual case.  It's the lazy man's way of thinking.  It's everything the right wing propaganda machine runs on.  Take uneducated gullible people, make false sweeping generalizations, dumb it down and make it sound simple, repeat repeat until they believe it.

[Maximum Overkill 773]

 

[Horseman 1,571]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

They think it's all political, and they try like hell with the whataboutism to support their opinion all while ignoring the facts of each individual case.  It's the lazy man's way of thinking.  It's everything the right wing propaganda machine runs on.  Take uneducated gullible people, make false sweeping generalizations, dumb it down and make it sound simple, repeat repeat until they believe it.

The 3rd grade summaries are my favorite.

[jerryskids 5,298]

9 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Why pivot to Hillary then and not acknowledge what I wrote about Biden?

Why do you think Trump was charged and Biden was not or Hillary was not?

I've said it multiple times.  Hint:  Venn Diagram.

Also, I pivoted to Hillary because we had beaten your Spinal Tap explanation to death.  The "obstruction of justice" comment made me think of it.  Might smashing and erasing devices qualify as being uncooperative, and/or as not returning confidential info in a timely matter?

If so, the only difference is that Hillary is Clinton royalty.  Well, that's not true.  The main difference IMO, which you alluded to, is that before Trump, high-level politicians had infinite rope.  The model for all politicians but Trump:  default is to excuse everything but the most egregious offense, like a body in your freezer-level egregiousness.  With Trump, the default is to charge him.  That is why these Venn Diagrams are created, and it is why NY calls paying off a wh0re "election interference."  And simps like @Ron_Artestlap them up.

[thegeneral 1,491]

45 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I've said it multiple times.  Hint:  Venn Diagram.

Also, I pivoted to Hillary because we had beaten your Spinal Tap explanation to death.  The "obstruction of justice" comment made me think of it.  Might smashing and erasing devices qualify as being uncooperative, and/or as not returning confidential info in a timely matter?

If so, the only difference is that Hillary is Clinton royalty.  Well, that's not true.  The main difference IMO, which you alluded to, is that before Trump, high-level politicians had infinite rope.  The model for all politicians but Trump:  default is to excuse everything but the most egregious offense, like a body in your freezer-level egregiousness.  With Trump, the default is to charge him.  That is why these Venn Diagrams are created, and it is why NY calls paying off a wh0re "election interference."  And simps like @Ron_Artestlap them up.

Why they did not consider Hillary’s team’ treatment of devices and how she handled herself was covered very thoroughly. If you want to say that they have the same evidence of clear cut obstruction that they have in Trump well not sure what to say.

Trump literally talked about the docs he said he no longer had on tape. His subordinates have said he told them to move them after they were asked for. It’s cut and dry. 

You can see how these are different right?

Do normal politicians talk and do things that Trump does while under investigation? No they do not. He admits to crimes on his social diary. He’s a dumbass or he doesn’t care because he knows he can eventually skate as well and loves this victim shet. Probably both IMO.