jonmx 2,425 Posted May 23, 2024 6 hours ago, Horseman said: There is a ton of proof that Ron is your alias, the most damning being that as soon as you got suspended the alias that hadn't posted since 2014 immediately took over being the village idiot. The village idiot???? There are at least a dozen of those brainwashed leftards posting here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted May 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, jonmx said: The village idiot???? There are at least a dozen of those brainwashed leftards posting here. Now, yeah. Pedoboy and his aliases are the original. He makes Rusty jealous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,352 Posted May 23, 2024 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/patrick-mahomes-chiefs-harrison-butker_n_664e7738e4b048d73b553c4f Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 16 hours ago, jerryskids said: I agree with you that he is advocating for women to stay at home and raise their kids. Where I think we differ is I don't think he is suggesting that women walk out of the auditorium and marry the first guy they run into. There will be some amount of time between now and having babies. I also disagree with the word "shaming." It is all positive words about motherhood and his wife. He never says anything to shame them IMO. On a slightly different topic, here was another dumb thing to say at a commencement: No, the majority are not excited about that at this phase of their lives. I don't think that is "shaming" though. I actually have no issue with his comment about them being “most excited about their marriage and children.” I do think that’s probably true for many female college graduates especially at a Catholic college. And most importantly that particular statement doesn’t exclude them from also having a career. But where the “shaming” them for having a career comes in IMO is telling them they’ve been “told diabological lies” and that “homemaker is one of the most important titles in the world.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,886 Posted May 23, 2024 19 pages because liberals hate the nuclear family. How can anyone vote for a Democrat? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted May 23, 2024 11 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: 19 pages because liberals hate the nuclear family. How can anyone vote for a Democrat? That's what I'm seeing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 18 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I'm unsure of what you're speaking about here when you reference me. Lil' help? On 5/18/2024 at 7:04 PM, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I've never seen a bunch of soy boys so afraid of traditional women. You guys afraid these traditional women are going force you to be a man? Scary, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 16 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: That's what I'm seeing. ^Another one that I’m pretty sure was complaining about people “twisting Butker’s words” and is jumping to conclusions that absolutely no one said. But I know @TBayXXXVII has said a lot of hypocritical things in the past, so no surprise here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted May 23, 2024 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: ^Another one that I’m pretty sure was complaining about people “twisting Butker’s words” and is jumping to conclusions that absolutely no one said. But I know @TBayXXXVII has said a lot of hypocritical things in the past, so no surprise here I read the Huff Post article, that @Gepetto posted. Quote In his speech at the Kansas liberal arts college, Butker expressed arch-conservative and at times bigoted views, taking aim at “dangerous gender ideologies,” the “tyranny of diversity, equity, and inclusion” and President Joe Biden. “He has been so vocal in his support for the murder of innocent babies that I’m sure to many people it appears that you can be both Catholic and pro-choice,” Butker said of the president. “Bad policies and poor leadership have negatively impacted major life issues,” he added. “Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media, all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.” Are you saying that they took Butker out of context? I read that and I say, "yeah, looks about right". I agree with him. If people are against that, I think they're saying that the nuclear family isn't good. The Feminazi's are lying to women. The Catholic Church IS playing both sides of the fence on abortion. Biden's poor policies and leadership (along with the liberal platform), negatively impacts major life issues. Everything he said is true. Also, now that I see it's a Liberal Arts college (I thought it was a Catholic School), I'm even more confident that more than half of them wasted their money. It's probably like 80%. Not sure where the hypocrisy is. Also not sure where I've said hypocritical things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,026 Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Oh, that. That was before our new relationship started. I was simply reversing the same nonsense that a bunch of lefty posters were pulling to see how they liked it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I read the Huff Post article, that @Gepetto posted. Are you saying that they took Butker out of context? I read that and I say, "yeah, looks about right". I agree with him. If people are against that, I think they're saying that the nuclear family isn't good. The Feminazi's are lying to women. The Catholic Church IS playing both sides of the fence on abortion. Biden's poor policies and leadership (along with the liberal platform), negatively impacts major life issues. Everything he said is true. Also, now that I see it's a Liberal Arts college (I thought it was a Catholic School), I'm even more confident that more than half of them wasted their money. It's probably like 80%. Not sure where the hypocrisy is. Also not sure where I've said hypocritical things. How is that saying “the nuclear family isn’t good”?? That is what’s being taken out of context. No one here (or in that quote) is saying there is anything wrong with being a homemaker. We’re just also saying there’s nothing wrong with NOT being a homemaker. Butker is saying they should want to be homemakers. So you’re against IVF and surrogacy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,719 Posted May 23, 2024 27 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I read the Huff Post article, that @Gepetto posted. Are you saying that they took Butker out of context? I read that and I say, "yeah, looks about right". I agree with him. If people are against that, I think they're saying that the nuclear family isn't good. The Feminazi's are lying to women. The Catholic Church IS playing both sides of the fence on abortion. Biden's poor policies and leadership (along with the liberal platform), negatively impacts major life issues. Everything he said is true. Also, now that I see it's a Liberal Arts college (I thought it was a Catholic School), I'm even more confident that more than half of them wasted their money. It's probably like 80%. Not sure where the hypocrisy is. Also not sure where I've said hypocritical things. The Catholic Church is NOT playing both sides of the fence on abortion. The Church is quite consistent (and active) in its opposition to abortion. I think he was referring to Biden there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,719 Posted May 23, 2024 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: I actually have no issue with his comment about them being “most excited about their marriage and children.” I do think that’s probably true for many female college graduates especially at a Catholic college. And most importantly that particular statement doesn’t exclude them from also having a career. But where the “shaming” them for having a career comes in IMO is telling them they’ve been “told diabological lies” and that “homemaker is one of the most important titles in the world.” I definitely don't think the second thing approaches anywhere near shaming. For "diabolical lies," is it strength of the phrase you find shaming? If he had said "told untruths" or even "misled," would you find that less shaming? To me, shaming is a negative message of "if you don't stay home with your kids, you suck." Instead, as I said before, Butker emphasized the positives of his and his wife's experiences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted May 23, 2024 51 minutes ago, TimHauck said: How is that saying “the nuclear family isn’t good”?? That is what’s being taken out of context. No one here (or in that quote) is saying there is anything wrong with being a homemaker. We’re just also saying there’s nothing wrong with NOT being a homemaker. Butker is saying they should want to be homemakers. So you’re against IVF and surrogacy? The Democrat platform and feminazi agenda ARE anti-nuclear family. I specially called out abortion with respect to the Catholic Church (corrected by Jerry), being actually Biden, where I agree with him. In parts where I disagree with him, I'm ok with it. I don't need to call him out on it nor do I feel the need to call him names like your side does. I didn't watch or read what Butker said, I just see your side freaking out about it. Generally, when you're freaking out, you're on the wrong side of the issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted May 23, 2024 26 minutes ago, jerryskids said: The Catholic Church is NOT playing both sides of the fence on abortion. The Church is quite consistent (and active) in its opposition to abortion. I think he was referring to Biden there. I stand corrected. Thanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: The Democrat platform and feminazi agenda ARE anti-nuclear family. I specially called out abortion, when saying that Catholic church (corrected below), BIDEN is pretending to be religious. That's where I agree with him. In parts where I disagree with him, I'm ok with it. I don't need to call him out on it nor do I feel the need to call him names like your side does. I didn't watch or read what Butker said, I just see your side freaking out about it. Generally, when you're freaking out, you're on the wrong side of the issue. First @Strike in Honcho’s thread, now @TBayXXXVII inserting arguments into topics they haven’t even read the details about So much for “doing your own research” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted May 23, 2024 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: First @Strike in Honcho’s thread, now @TBayXXXVII inserting arguments into topics they haven’t even read the details about So much for “doing your own research” I didn't insert an argument. I read the Huff Post article and commented on the issues they had. Now, if that's inserting an argument, fine, then your issue should be with Huff Post article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,694 Posted May 23, 2024 Who is Harrison Bergeron? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,257 Posted May 23, 2024 40 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: What a great young lady. And gorgeous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I didn't insert an argument. I read the Huff Post article and commented on the issues they had. Now, if that's inserting an argument, fine, then your issue should be with Huff Post. You agreed with @Cdub100 saying this thread got to 19 pages because “liberals hate the nuclear family.” Please post evidence from this thread that that is the case. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,257 Posted May 23, 2024 I’m Catholic. I DGAF what the pope says and I rarely listen to what he does offer. I kind of look at it like the constitution. If it’s not in the constitution, then it’s up to the states, and if Jesus didn’t say it, it’s up to me. I’m All for IVF for people that are having difficulties. I see it as a gift from God, not some sort of perversion like sex change operations. Most of the Cardinals can Fock off too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted May 23, 2024 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You agreed with @Cdub100 saying this thread got to 19 pages because “liberals hate the nuclear family.” Please post evidence from this thread that that is the case. Correct. I used the Huff Post article as the source of what Butker said. Are you saying that Huff Post has it wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 41 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I definitely don't think the second thing approaches anywhere near shaming. For "diabolical lies," is it strength of the phrase you find shaming? If he had said "told untruths" or even "misled," would you find that less shaming? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Correct. I used the Huff Post article as the source of what Butker said. Are you saying that Huff Post has it wrong? Please quote where in the HuffPost article it said that the author hates the nuclear family Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted May 23, 2024 Just now, TimHauck said: Please quote where in the HuffPost article it said that the author hates the nuclear family Based on the Huff Post article of what Butker said, if you people are against him, then yes, you hate the nuclear family. That's a you problem, not a Butker or me problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Based on the Huff Post article of what Butker said, if you people are against him, then yes, you hate the nuclear family. That's a you problem, not a Butker or me problem. Do you agree that a fair interpretation of what Butker said is that he is against women working outside of the home? That is what “we” are against. “We” are not against women being homemakers, “we” are against Butker implying they should all want to be homemakers. Also, are you against IVF and surrogacy? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,694 Posted May 23, 2024 26 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You agreed with @Cdub100 saying this thread got to 19 pages because “liberals hate the nuclear family.” Please post evidence from this thread that that is the case. Living is easy with the eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,414 Posted May 23, 2024 33 minutes ago, TimHauck said: First @Strike in Honcho’s thread, now @TBayXXXVII inserting arguments into topics they haven’t even read the details about So much for “doing your own research” There are times you don't need to do additional research. I responded to Honchos thread title and conceded it as fact. I assumed he was being accurate in posting it. Why would I need to do additional research? Had I wanted to dispute it I would definitely have had my ducks in a row with research/links to support my argument. That's where you guys often fall short. You make assertions that you can't support that are factually incorrect. Why would that be a concern when I'm conceding Honchos fact/point? You and he are just deflecting from the point I made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,719 Posted May 23, 2024 9 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Do you agree that a fair interpretation of what Butker said is that he is against women working outside of the home? That is what “we” are against. “We” are not against women being homemakers, “we” are against Butker implying they should all want to be homemakers. Also, are you against IVF and surrogacy? He advocated for women being homemakers. There is an implicit "all" when you advocate for something. If I say, "I love my Roborock vacuum, it's great!" I'm implicitly saying that I think everyone should get one. I'm not expected to say, "or, if you want to buy another one, that's great too!" I think you are reading too much into your inference of this "all" thing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted May 23, 2024 16 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Living is easy with the eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. I'm with @Strike on this. I'm using a Leftist article as the a factual representation of what happened. It's why I keep asking him (and he's not answering), if they have it wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,886 Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: You agreed with @Cdub100 saying this thread got to 19 pages because “liberals hate the nuclear family.” Please post evidence from this thread that that is the case. You do! Just own your tranny loving, child mutilating cultist political party. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: Based on the Huff Post article of what Butker said, if you people are against him, then yes, you hate the nuclear family. That's a you problem, not a Butker or me problem. I support the nuclear family. My wife was a stay at home mom. I think Butker is a d1ckhead and so are you. Don't tell me what I am for or against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,026 Posted May 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I support the nuclear family. My wife was a stay at home mom. I think Butker is a d1ckhead and so are you. Don't tell me what I am for or against. GutterBoy: "Harrison Butker is a d1ckhead for saying he supports the nuclear family" Also GutterBoy: "I support the nuclear family" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted May 23, 2024 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: GutterBoy: "Harrison Butker is a d1ckhead for saying he supports the nuclear family" Also GutterBoy: "I support the nuclear family" Harrison Butker is a d1ckhead for telling graduating women that they've been told diabolical lies and will only find true happiness once they have a husband to take care of. Has nothing to do with the nuclear family you focking idiot. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,026 Posted May 23, 2024 12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Harrison Butker is a d1ckhead for telling graduating women that they've been told diabolical lies and will only find true happiness once they have a husband to take care of. Has nothing to do with the nuclear family you focking idiot. First off, you said it in the post i quoted so if it had nothing to do with the nuclear family, why did you even bring it up? Secondly, They have been told lies. That's not even debatable. Cucks like you like to go along with it because, well, you're a cuck and a simp but the data bears it out: women are unhappy as they reach their 30's and higher and the men they want don't want them anymore. Feminism has sold them a bill of goods that doesn't exist. Too bad, so sad. How long have you been in denial about this? Is this a new thing your wife told you to believe? Or has this afflicted you all of your pathetic life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted May 23, 2024 6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: First off, you said it in the post i quoted so if it had nothing to do with the nuclear family, why did you even bring it up? Secondly, They have been told lies. That's not even debatable. Cucks like you like to go along with it because, well, you're a cuck and a simp but the data bears it out: women are unhappy as they reach their 30's and higher and the men they want don't want them anymore. Too bad, so sad. How long have you been in denial about this? Is this a new thing your wife told you to believe? Or has this afflicted you all of your pathetic life? What lies are women told? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,257 Posted May 23, 2024 13 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: What lies are women told? They make less than men for the same job? That men can menstruate and they have to share a locker room with them and accept them on the sports field? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,026 Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They make less than men for the same job? That men can menstruate and they have to share a locker room with them and accept them on the sports field? FACTS That's just the tip of the iceberg too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted May 23, 2024 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: He advocated for women being homemakers. There is an implicit "all" when you advocate for something. If I say, "I love my Roborock vacuum, it's great!" I'm implicitly saying that I think everyone should get one. I'm not expected to say, "or, if you want to buy another one, that's great too!" I think you are reading too much into your inference of this "all" thing. This sounds like you’re agreeing with me. The people here that disagree with Butker aren’t saying one is better than the other. Butker is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites