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June 27 Presidential debate

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden lost the debate last night but Trump didn’t win. Trump didn’t mop any floors; he was simply dreadful. Just not quite as bad as Biden. 

Trump was fine.  One would think you might show some humility given how wrong your predictions about last night were, but here you are.  Aren't you on vacation?  Go vacate or something.

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10 minutes ago, Strike said:

CNN anchor Erin Burnett said so after the debate during the analysis shows.

Meh....I mean that can be spun.    Biden was told he would get asked about immigration, the economy, climate change, the insurrection, abortion.  Nothing asked of those 2 last night was something unexpected or unusual.  So yeah, Biden got the questions in advance.   So did Trump.  They both knew what they would have to talk to.  I'm not putting anything into that honestly.

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5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Here's the quote

"He goes through six days of preparation, a camp day, more than that. And they know the rules,” Burnett said in a video that has surfaced on X. "He practices with the mics. He knows every one of these questions is coming, and yet he couldn't fill the time."

Strike was wrong, again.  What a douche.

That’s not…

 

Strike being pretty dishonest here. 

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2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Trump was fine.  One would think you might show some humility given how wrong your predictions about last night were, but here you are.  Aren't you on vacation?  Go vacate or something.

Going out to dinner and waiting for my wife and daughters to get ready. Lots of lag time. 
 

Trump’s performance, which was dreadful, had no impact on my humility. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Going out to dinner and waiting for my wife and daughters to get ready. Lots of lag time. 
 

Trump’s performance, which was dreadful, had no impact on my humility. 

I think that might not be an accurate depiction.  He did about as well as anyone might expect. Nothing spectacular, but not bad....  which is why there is no attempt at all on the part of their propagandists at CNN and MSDNC to spin this notion....

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I said I'd play you in a game of golf if you could carry your own bags....could you?   

The debate ends with Biden needing help getting off the stage.  🤣🤣🤣

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think that might not be an accurate depiction.  He did about as well as anyone might expect. Nothing spectacular, but not bad....  which is why there is no attempt at all on the part of their propagandists at CNN and MSDNC to spin this notion....

You guys are bad at this conspiracy stuff..

Wouldn't the move be for MSNBC and CNN to not mention Trump's performance because it will be easier to replace Biden if they keep reminding people how bad he was

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18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden lost the debate last night but Trump didn’t win. Trump didn’t mop any floors; he was simply dreadful. Just not quite as bad as Biden. 

America lost

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It is a bit ironic that the one thing that could save Biden yet is his VP candidate who know one is talking about as being the President consideration if Joe drops.

It's additionally ironic because after Barack Obama's bad performance against Romney in the first debate in 2012- it was Joe who pulled them back on truck by having GOP wunderkind Paul Ryan for dinner. Also, the big talk of Biden in 2008 was would he come across as too condescending to Sarah Palin  and instead people felt he was very respectful to her even with her being overmatched politically. Can whomever Trump brings in as his VP have the same touch towards Kamala Harris?

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

America lost

Basically what I argued but the usual suspects of idiots here don't want to hear that

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2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You guys are bad at this conspiracy stuff..

Wouldn't the move be for MSNBC and CNN to not mention Trump's performance because it will be easier to replace Biden if they keep reminding people how bad he was

Right.  Like the conspiracy around Russian Collusion? Or how about that laptop? Or maybe the COVID made in a lab conspiracy they now admit could be true.... or the Biden being inept one that we can no SEE is true....

Your "conspiracy" is just how you defend yourself from the truth today, which becomes accepted later.

 

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4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You guys are bad at this conspiracy stuff..

Wouldn't the move be for MSNBC and CNN to not mention Trump's performance because it will be easier to replace Biden if they keep reminding people how bad he was

At least you’re admitting CNN & MSNBC are working in coordination with the Democratic Party.

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

From 2017 to 2019, America did a TON of winning.  :dunno:

But it's 2024

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Right.  Like the conspiracy around Russian Collusion? Or how about that laptop? Or maybe the COVID made in a lab conspiracy they now admit could be true.... or the Biden being inept one that we can no SEE is true....

Your "conspiracy" is just how you defend yourself from the truth today, which becomes accepted later.

 

What am I defending myself from exactly? 

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

At least you’re admitting CNN & MSNBC are working in coordination with the Democratic Party.

There needs to be an emoji of something flying over someone's head for both the posts I quoted here.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

But it's 2024

And?  Why do you think that policies and practices that were winning from 2017 to 2019 wouldn't work when put back in place in 2025?

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Just now, Sean Mooney said:

What am I defending myself from exactly? 

Reality that challenges your beliefs. 

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

And?  Why do you think that policies and practices that were winning from 2017 to 2019 wouldn't work when put back in place in 2025?

Yeah good call, nothing has changed during this time.

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

And?  Why do you think that policies and practices that were winning from 2017 to 2019 wouldn't work when put back in place in 2025?

They might-

but they will be enacted by a guy who poison pilled the tax cuts to end strategically in a year where he might not be President and who thinks adding a 10% tariff on goods from other countries will just mean "they pay us more money" and it won't just lead to the cost of goods going up at the consumer's expense. 

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34 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I simply assume that this is true.  But so far I have not observed anything that supports this opinion.

Yeah, you think Donna Brazille was an anomaly?  Hell no.

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3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

What am I defending myself from exactly? 

There needs to be an emoji of something flying over someone's head for both the posts I quoted here.

Whoosh!

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1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Reality that challenges your beliefs. 

Look- I know you only accept videos from people on YouTube as evidence but just because someone doesn't go after a person vigorously doesn't mean they like that person. And just because they like to mock stupidity doesn't mean they are automatically on the other side of the argument.

You just like to write long posts that lack any substance- everyone sees that.

Additionally- you have no idea where my beliefs lie. 

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Just now, Fireballer said:

Yeah, you think Donna Brazille was an anomaly?  Hell no.

Concur.  Democrats are not "good" just as Republicans are not "good".  They are politicians, and will do plenty of dirty sh!t to hold on to power.   Right now....the Democrats seem to be willing to do things FAR worse....than their counterparts.  And get away with it under cover from their media allies....

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Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Look- I know you only accept videos from people on YouTube as evidence but just because someone doesn't go after a person vigorously doesn't mean they like that person. And just because they like to mock stupidity doesn't mean they are automatically on the other side of the argument.

You just like to write long posts that lack any substance- everyone sees that.

Additionally- you have no idea where my beliefs lie. 

Hmmm, are you sure you want to make that assertion? Or would you like an opportunity to amend your assertion?

 

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2 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

This is the earliest date that the presidential debate has been held in the history of our country. No presidential debate has ever been conducted before the national conventions. The Democrats demanded this date and now we know why, they are planning on replacing him. Biden will not be on the ticket in November.

I wish you were right but I think they just drank the kool aid and convinced themselves that Biden could get through this. I highly doubt there’s some huge conspiracy to get him off the ticket because there’s way too much risk that it doesn’t work and then you’ve just shot your self in the foot

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Just now, RLLD said:

Hmmm, are you sure you want to make that assertion? Or would you like an opportunity to amend your assertion?

 

Nope. I've seen your argument style here- so have others. 

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Just now, IGotWorms said:

I wish you were right but I think they just drank the kool aid and convinced themselves that Biden could get through this. I highly doubt there’s some huge conspiracy to get him off the ticket because there’s way too much risk that it doesn’t work and then you’ve just shot your self in the foot

Here is what I do not get, I notice that some of these states need to have candidates documented before the convention, that makes no sense to me....  we really do not know who the candidate will be until the convention.

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1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Nope. I've seen your argument style here- so have others. 

OK, I provided you the opportunity..... lets get start then, shall we? 😁

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Yes Mooney we've seen it.  You trying to outsmart RLLD is Biden trying to debate Trump bad.  Give it up.  

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7 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

They might-

but they will be enacted by a guy who poison pilled the tax cuts to end strategically in a year where he might not be President and who thinks adding a 10% tariff on goods from other countries will just mean "they pay us more money" and it won't just lead to the cost of goods going up at the consumer's expense. 

He said this last night.  He doesn't understand what a tariff is.  Neither do most of the magas here, shockingly.

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2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I wish you were right but I think they just drank the kool aid and convinced themselves that Biden could get through this. I highly doubt there’s some huge conspiracy to get him off the ticket because there’s way too much risk that it doesn’t work and then you’ve just shot your self in the foot

What I can’t figure out is why they pushed to have this early date for the debate. In reality, it makes no sense, these two guys haven’t  been nominated yet.

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6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yeah good call, nothing has changed during this time.

Obviously things changed, for the worse, because of the leadership.  We put the right guy back in place and the ship will right.

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

OK, I provided you the opportunity..... lets get start then, shall we? 😁

it doesn't matter....you'll just write posts that are small essays contradicting anything you said and trying to pretend you didn't rely on YouTube videos to make points. 

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Obviously things changed, for the worse, because of the leadership.  We put the right guy back in place and the ship will right.

so more tax cuts, more tariffs, less treaties, that kinda stuff?

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