Another Tranny thread@$!@%@ "Veronica Garcia wins 400m by 50m"

[edjr 6,599]

 

libs are okay with this?  

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

24 minutes ago, edjr said:

 

libs are okay with this?  

I certainly am not okay with this at all---that's not 50M, that's closer to 30M at most.  

[edjr 6,599]

4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I certainly am not okay with this at all---that's not 50M, that's closer to 30M at most.  

 

[Nomad99 746]

Anyone ok with this has no soul. Anyone that has a daughter & is OK with this should be forced to put her in the octagon with a trans woman. 

[edjr 6,599]

Just now, Nomad99 said:

Anyone ok with this has no soul. Anyone that has a daughter & is OK with this should be forced to put her in the octagon with a trans woman. 

I would enjoy watching liberal men in the octagon with a tranny

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

It will eventually stop.  It has to, right?

[edjr 6,599]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It will eventually stop.  It has to, right?

Maybe when someone gives one of them the Monica Seles treatment

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,354]

Imagine that mentally ill person crossing the line and thinking I’m such a fast woman I’m so awesome 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Bravery on display 

[edjr 6,599]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Imagine that mentally ill person crossing the line and thinking I’m such a fast woman I’m so awesome 

Now THAT is a mental illness. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,550]

12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It will eventually stop.  It has to, right?

It'll be a turnstile, just like racism, for the Democrat party.

[edjr 6,599]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It'll be a turnstile, just like racism DEI, for the Democrat party.

yup

[TimHauck 2,882]

15 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It'll be a turnstile, just like racism, for the Democrat party.

Oh hey it’s GC libs bringing up racism again

 

oh wait 

[edjr 6,599]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Oh hey it’s GC libs bringing up racism again

 

oh wait 

Don't deflect. You are okay with the OP

[TimHauck 2,882]

5 minutes ago, edjr said:

Don't deflect. You are okay with the OP

No, I am not and have said so multiple times in here

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,354]

6 minutes ago, edjr said:

Don't deflect. You are okay with the OP

hes absolutely not ok with it, however he only votes for people who are 

Just now, TimHauck said:

No, I am not and have said so multiple times in here

 

[TimHauck 2,882]

8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

hes absolutely not ok with it, however he only votes for people who are 

 

Trump is okay with it?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,354]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Trump is okay with it?

oh is this where you claim you are voting for Trump again

lol

[TimHauck 2,882]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

oh is this where you claim you are voting for Trump again

lol

Not nearly as funny as you claiming you’re the most centrist poster here

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,354]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Not nearly as funny as you claiming you’re the most centrist poster here

once again, show me how I am not, take my views and show me how I am not center

 

[TimHauck 2,882]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

once again, show me how I am not, take my views and show me how I am not center

 

Saying the Covid vax did nothing beneficial 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,354]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Saying the Covid vax did nothing beneficial 

so you have one thing, got it, ok tool 

centrist would mean taking each individual issue and making a determination individually.

I am good with abortion so take your covid garbage and shove it up your a55 science denier, you wont even get your 14th jab like a good sheep

I am anti-government

I am anti-war, that used to be a left leaning issue 100%, now thats a right wing thing, its not my fault the lines move, my beliefs never have, thats why I am a centrist, a Bill Clinton democrat

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,112]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

I certainly am not okay with this at all---that's not 50M, that's closer to 30M at most.  

Honcho wins the "Liberal Bravery" award for espousing an opinion that is contrary to his own party's platform.  I like your courage in the face of being cancelled or doxxed, Honcho.  We need more of that. 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

What was its time?

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

24 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Honcho wins the "Liberal Bravery" award for espousing an opinion that is contrary to his own party's platform.  I like your courage in the face of being cancelled or doxxed, Honcho.  We need more of that. 

 

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

3 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

Anyone ok with this has no soul. Anyone that has a daughter & is OK with this should be forced to put her in the octagon with a trans woman. 

I'm not okay with it, but I also don't have any answer yet either. The impact in sports is pretty minor(in terms of overall incidents) at this point, but it clearly seems unfair in most situations. On the other hand, the ability to participate in teams sports, learn teamwork responsibility, dedication and the self-esteem that comes with being on a team and competing are also important and I don't think it's right to take that away from people either, regardless. I think this is a more complicated than just a black or white issue, that just doesn't lend itself to an easy solution for all.

[jerryskids 6,805]

7 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I'm not okay with it, but I also don't have any answer yet either. The impact in sports is pretty minor(in terms of overall incidents) at this point, but it clearly seems unfair in most situations. On the other hand, the ability to participate in teams sports, learn teamwork responsibility, dedication and the self-esteem that comes with being on a team and competing are also important and I don't think it's right to take that away from people either, regardless. I think this is a more complicated than just a black or white issue, that just doesn't lend itself to an easy solution for all.

The reason the impact is being minimized is that dissent is being censored, so people can't discuss it.  I just saw the following, which was apparently banned on TikTok.  Because, of course, China wants to destroy our culture.

 

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The reason the impact is being minimized is that dissent is being censored, so people can't discuss it.  I just saw the following, which was apparently banned on TikTok.  Because, of course, China wants to destroy our culture.

 

Saw you repled, but I'm back to work, will watch video and respond later.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,550]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Oh hey it’s GC libs bringing up racism again

 

oh wait 

Did racism all of a sudden go away?

[iam90sbaby 2,613]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

No, I am not and have said so multiple times in here

But you vote for it 

[TBayXXXVII 2,550]

3 hours ago, edjr said:

yup

Yeah, that works.  As soon as the Democrat party feels the "victims" are intrenched, they'll focus on another demographic to make into victims.  Once the prior victims start to realize the Democrats are fool of crap, they start to move right and boom, the Democrats make them a high priority again.

[edjr 6,599]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

No, I am not and have said so multiple times in here

You vote for it, you support it

[Nomad99 746]

3 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

I'm not okay with it, but I also don't have any answer yet either. The impact in sports is pretty minor(in terms of overall incidents) at this point, but it clearly seems unfair in most situations. On the other hand, the ability to participate in teams sports, learn teamwork responsibility, dedication and the self-esteem that comes with being on a team and competing are also important and I don't think it's right to take that away from people either, regardless. I think this is a more complicated than just a black or white issue, that just doesn't lend itself to an easy solution for all.

It's not "sporting" when you have a biological advantage......it's like kicking a puppy. If you get self-esteem from giving yourself an unfair advantage.....you are a cheater with no moral compass. Maybe the impact on "sports" is minor...tell that to female track & field athletes, swimmers, weight lifters.....that have spent the MAJORITY of their lives, SACRIFICED, sweated, DEDICATED EVERYTHING to master their craft & become the best.......only to loose the MOST IMPORTANT MOMENTS OF THEIR LIVES to some SELFISH EGOTISTICAL MAN that never ranked in the top 50th percentile. IT IS BLACK & WHITE. Here is a shocker......HAVE YOUR OWN CATAGORY. HIS teammates aren't happy....they are mortified.....most are just afraid to voice their thoughts.....just as afraid as they are to share a locker room with HIM. There is an easy solution.......A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN.

[Maximum Overkill 1,998]

6 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Saying the Covid vax did nothing beneficial 

The party of racism and Pro Pedophilia. That's what you voted for Son. Time to own up  

 

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

6 hours ago, jerryskids said:

The reason the impact is being minimized is that dissent is being censored, so people can't discuss it.  I just saw the following, which was apparently banned on TikTok.  Because, of course, China wants to destroy our culture.

 

Again, to be clean, by impact - I'm talking about the total number number formerly male trans athletes competing in women's sports.  Just anecdotally based on this board, I'm pretty sure I'm hearing about every dang trans athlete issue that comes up.  And even if TikTok has decided to censor a  video, which is their right, there are millions of outlets that will spread the news everytime some fe(male) wins an event. 

 

2 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

It's not "sporting" when you have a biological advantage......it's like kicking a puppy. If you get self-esteem from giving yourself an unfair advantage.....you are a cheater with no moral compass. Maybe the impact on "sports" is minor...tell that to female track & field athletes, swimmers, weight lifters.....that have spent the MAJORITY of their lives, SACRIFICED, sweated, DEDICATED EVERYTHING to master their craft & become the best.......only to loose the MOST IMPORTANT MOMENTS OF THEIR LIVES to some SELFISH EGOTISTICAL MAN that never ranked in the top 50th percentile. IT IS BLACK & WHITE. Here is a shocker......HAVE YOUR OWN CATAGORY. HIS teammates aren't happy....they are mortified.....most are just afraid to voice their thoughts.....just as afraid as they are to share a locker room with HIM. There is an easy solution.......A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN.

I said nothing about it being sporting to have a biological advantage and did state " it clearly seems unfair in most situations."  I was talking about the self-esteem that comes with participating in sports in general.  And please see above about what I meant for impact.

For instance I played basketball on the JV team that went 3-17, we were terrible. On top of that there were only 7 total players on the team and I was the last off the bench.  On team with only 7 players, 20 games for 640 total minutes of basketball, I scored 10 points. But I still learned the lessons of teamwork, being dedicated and gained the self-esteem of knowing I worked every day during that season and gave it my all the entire time. That's what I mean by self-esteem. 

I'm not talking any self-esteem(which would be more ego) from the fe(male) who beats her competitors by 50M.  On top of gender dysphoria, a person would also be dealing with a massive narcism problem to be proud of that accomplishment.  

The issue that I have is that I believe sports can be beneficial to all for a variety of reasons of character building reason. I hope that someday there is some kind of equitable solution so that everyone who wants to compete can AND it's on a level playing field. So until that solution presents itself, I'm left with .  That doesn't mean I don't see the problem or am ignoring it, I just don't think the solution is black or white. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

I’m a centrist too.  See, anyone can say it. 

[jerryskids 6,805]

2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Again, to be clean, by impact - I'm talking about the total number number formerly male trans athletes competing in women's sports.  Just anecdotally based on this board, I'm pretty sure I'm hearing about every dang trans athlete issue that comes up.  And even if TikTok has decided to censor a  video, which is their right, there are millions of outlets that will spread the news everytime some fe(male) wins an event. 

 

I said nothing about it being sporting to have a biological advantage and did state " it clearly seems unfair in most situations."  I was talking about the self-esteem that comes with participating in sports in general.  And please see above about what I meant for impact.

For instance I played basketball on the JV team that went 3-17, we were terrible. On top of that there were only 7 total players on the team and I was the last off the bench.  On team with only 7 players, 20 games for 640 total minutes of basketball, I scored 10 points. But I still learned the lessons of teamwork, being dedicated and gained the self-esteem of knowing I worked every day during that season and gave it my all the entire time. That's what I mean by self-esteem. 

I'm not talking any self-esteem(which would be more ego) from the fe(male) who beats her competitors by 50M.  On top of gender dysphoria, a person would also be dealing with a massive narcism problem to be proud of that accomplishment.  

The issue that I have is that I believe sports can be beneficial to all for a variety of reasons of character building reason. I hope that someday there is some kind of equitable solution so that everyone who wants to compete can AND it's on a level playing field. So until that solution presents itself, I'm left with .  That doesn't mean I don't see the problem or am ignoring it, I just don't think the solution is black or white. 

Regarding TikTok, the greater concern is that (unfortunately) a good number of our Gen Z, and to a lesser extent Millennials, get their pulse on the goings-on in the world from it.  If TikTok bans any dissent to men in women's sports, we have a whole next generation of people who don't think there is dissent.  So they are less likely to dissent, for fear of becoming social pariahs.

To your greater point about the value of sports, I'll repeat a point I've made in the past about my daughter with Type 1 diabetes.  She is free to pursue her happiness... with constraints.  She can't join the military for instance, which is another example of a great team-building pursuit.

There are thousands of other pursuits upon which to build teamwork besides sports.  And there are thousands of individual athletic pursuits which don't involve beating the snot out of biological females.  

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Regarding TikTok, the greater concern is that (unfortunately) a good number of our Gen Z, and to a lesser extent Millennials, get their pulse on the goings-on in the world from it.  If TikTok bans any dissent to men in women's sports, we have a whole next generation of people who don't think there is dissent.  So they are less likely to dissent, for fear of becoming social pariahs.

To your greater point about the value of sports, I'll repeat a point I've made in the past about my daughter with Type 1 diabetes.  She is free to pursue her happiness... with constraints.  She can't join the military for instance, which is another example of a great team-building pursuit.

There are thousands of other pursuits upon which to build teamwork besides sports.  And there are thousands of individual athletic pursuits which don't involve beating the snot out of biological females.  

And these are fair points that I've thought long and hard about too, straight prohibition but I don't know if I'm all the way there yet. Honestly, that might be the best solution until there is some day a fair way of handicapping/balancing the scale. Again, though, I fall back to how much is this happening right now that sweeping legislation is needed?  Legislation that once enacted I fear would be hard to reverse if a time came when a real solution presents itself.  And I say that because even if it was proven beyond any doubt that the fe(male) was completely equal to everyone else people would still protest because of God or stuff.  

I'll give you my liberal analogy...at this point doing anything drastic is like saying in 1783, everyone can have any gun they want cause for all time and we will never make any restrictions  because it takes 2 minutes to load 1 shot and that will never change.* It's early and I need to know much more before I start drawing any lines. 

*I'm not interested in a gun control debate today. 

[jerryskids 6,805]

6 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

And these are fair points that I've thought long and hard about too, straight prohibition but I don't know if I'm all the way there yet. Honestly, that might be the best solution until there is some day a fair way of handicapping/balancing the scale. Again, though, I fall back to how much is this happening right now that sweeping legislation is needed?  Legislation that once enacted I fear would be hard to reverse if a time came when a real solution presents itself.  And I say that because even if it was proven beyond any doubt that the fe(male) was completely equal to everyone else people would still protest because of God or stuff.  

I'll give you my liberal analogy...at this point doing anything drastic is like saying in 1783, everyone can have any gun they want cause for all time and we will never make any restrictions  because it takes 2 minutes to load 1 shot and that will never change.* It's early and I need to know much more before I start drawing any lines. 

*I'm not interested in a gun control debate today. 

I hear you, and I've thought recently about the olympics and the different events.  Biological men in women swimming... stupid.  Biological men in women gymnastics... get out of here, they would get their asses kicked, competing in the womens events.  

I would rather each individual sport moderating participation as appropriate.  The problem IMO is... back to my TikTok/social pariah comments.  Until and unless we find a way to have reasonable discussions without the "your hate the transes$#@!" social pariah stigma, I see no other solution than to default to making it illegal.   

[jerryskids 6,805]

Also, I'm heading out to see Hamilton, which to some might put me somewhere on the alphabet scale, but it is a very entertaining musical and I'm comfortable attending.  Have a fun night, geeks.