RLLD 4,194 Posted July 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, Reality said: Liberals are stupid. Well, their ideas are poorly formed. Their not "stupid" in terms of their ability to manipulate and escape consequences. Mostly, the average liberal is simply indoctrinated and unable to step outside of the religious way their ideology operates. I think they are cunning and lack a moral compass. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,123 Posted July 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: Well, their ideas are poorly formed. Their not "stupid" in terms of their ability to manipulate and escape consequences. Mostly, the average liberal is simply indoctrinated and unable to step outside of the religious way their ideology operates. I think they are cunning and lack a moral compass. its times like this where you go to far with your bias. how many conservatives are christians? you don't think they are indoctrinated? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,124 Posted July 30, 2024 From the Twitters: We're listening to Republicans, who preach any American can open-carry an AR-15 to public gatherings, suddenly incensed the Secret Service couldn't stop a man with an AR-15 at a public gathering. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,194 Posted July 30, 2024 15 minutes ago, Herbivore said: its times like this where you go to far with your bias. how many conservatives are christians? you don't think they are indoctrinated? I think Christians are a relatively solid example of the same thing happening on the "right", so yeah..... and it makes sense since liberalism is as much religion now as it is anything else, so in terms of behaviors the Christians and far left folks share at least a similar approach to what they think and believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,123 Posted July 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think Christians are a relatively solid example of the same thing happening on the "right", so yeah..... and it makes sense since liberalism is as much religion now as it is anything else, so in terms of behaviors the Christians and far left folks share at least a similar approach to what they think and believe. so your post was just poorly formed, the average person is simply indoctrinated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,194 Posted July 30, 2024 13 minutes ago, Herbivore said: so your post was just poorly formed, the average person is simply indoctrinated No. the average person thinks for themselves, does not simply accept the lies from politicians or media or anyone else. The average person avoids the fantasy and stories meant to scare them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 343 Posted July 30, 2024 36 minutes ago, RLLD said: Well, their ideas are poorly formed. Their not "stupid" in terms of their ability to manipulate and escape consequences. Mostly, the average liberal is simply indoctrinated and unable to step outside of the religious way their ideology operates. I think they are cunning and lack a moral compass. You could literally swap out liberal for conservative and the same sentence is true. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,194 Posted July 30, 2024 Just now, purdygood said: You could literally swap out liberal for conservative and the same sentence is true. Except its far less true when you reverse it. And when that truth appears you hear the media frame it as "infighting" when in reality its simply people pushing back against the fringe. The right does not inhibit criticism or challenging the status quo, that is something dominated by the left...where no straying from the ideology is permitted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,123 Posted July 30, 2024 16 minutes ago, RLLD said: No. the average person thinks for themselves, does not simply accept the lies from politicians or media or anyone else. The average person avoids the fantasy and stories meant to scare them i guess that relates to what you consider average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,194 Posted July 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Herbivore said: i guess that relates to what you consider average. Correct. Most of the people we interact with show us that they are not easily manipulated, and I think that is absolutely the case for the average person. On the extremities you will of course find people who seem to just welcome being manipulated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 343 Posted July 30, 2024 26 minutes ago, RLLD said: The right does not inhibit criticism or challenging the status quo, that is something dominated by the left...where no straying from the ideology is permitted. I respect your opinion, but in my opinion the far left and far right are equally awful. But the far right is the only of the two that cling to religion (which there is no wiggle room for anything or you're going to hell) and have taken over one of the two parties in cult like fashion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,123 Posted July 30, 2024 32 minutes ago, RLLD said: Correct. Most of the people we interact with show us that they are not easily manipulated, and I think that is absolutely the case for the average person. On the extremities you will of course find people who seem to just welcome being manipulated. I just looked this up, so a bit of grain of salt, but the number I saw was 210 million christians in the us. that's 210 million indoctrinated. so what I was saying with what you consider average, and the average person is indoctrinated is in a way 210 million people out of what 330 million would make them the average. but yes, I understand what you mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,194 Posted July 30, 2024 33 minutes ago, purdygood said: I respect your opinion, but in my opinion the far left and far right are equally awful. But the far right is the only of the two that cling to religion (which there is no wiggle room for anything or you're going to hell) and have taken over one of the two parties in cult like fashion. Concur. The far elements of each are abhorrent, but the right does not allow the fringe to influence like the left does. If it were true that there was some commensurate actions or behaviors then it was be a wash, it is the allowance of liberals for hard leftists to gain legitimacy that I find off putting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,194 Posted July 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, Herbivore said: I just looked this up, so a bit of grain of salt, but the number I saw was 210 million christians in the us. that's 210 million indoctrinated. so what I was saying with what you consider average, and the average person is indoctrinated is in a way 210 million people out of what 330 million would make them the average. but yes, I understand what you mean. I surmise there is some small set of Christians, and Muslims....well, perhaps more so Muslims....they are as intolerant and indoctrinated as most liberals.....but certainly we could find some folks who are Christian and intolerant....I guess... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 343 Posted July 30, 2024 Just now, RLLD said: Concur. The far elements of each are abhorrent, but the right does not allow the fringe to influence like the left does. If it were true that there was some commensurate actions or behaviors then it was be a wash, it is the allowance of liberals for hard leftists to gain legitimacy that I find off putting. Maybe because i live in a big city in CA the crazy religious Trumpists stand out and are so off putting. I don't know where you live but maybe the over lunatic super liberals stand out and bother you so much. So we have the same perspective on the problem just slightly the opposite when it comes to which is worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,194 Posted July 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, purdygood said: Maybe because i live in a big city in CA the crazy religious Trumpists stand out and are so off putting. I don't know where you live but maybe the over lunatic super liberals stand out and bother you so much. So we have the same perspective on the problem just slightly the opposite when it comes to which is worse. Were it true that there were far right folks who burned cities, marched to celebrate the murder of Jews, pretended that people could change genders etc.... then I might concede the point. While both sides have their crazies, it is the left that allows their crazies access to the mainstream, and that really needs to stop. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 343 Posted July 30, 2024 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Were it true that there were far right folks who burned cities, marched to celebrate the murder of Jews, pretended that people could change genders etc.... then I might concede the point. While both sides have their crazies, it is the left that allows their crazies access to the mainstream, and that really needs to stop. I would contend that most of the rioters who burned down cities weren't Democrats and most of them probably aren't even registered to vote. So that's has always been a unfair label to me. But yes, the super Liberals who are pro Hamas are crazy as hell. I also don't agree people can change gender's but I think the have the right to dress however they want. Maybe we can just agree LIFE IS CRAZY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted July 30, 2024 Just now, purdygood said: I would contend that most of the rioters who burned down cities weren't Democrats and most of them probably aren't even registered to vote. So that's has always been a unfair label to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,970 Posted July 30, 2024 2 hours ago, RLLD said: No. the average person thinks for themselves, does not simply accept the lies from politicians or media or anyone else. The average person avoids the fantasy and stories meant to scare them The number of people in the country who think for themselves anymore is low and I would make the case is not the "average" anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,393 Posted July 30, 2024 10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: The number of people in the country who think for themselves anymore is low and I would make the case is not the "average" anymore Common sense waved bye-bye to the majority of people a long time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,123 Posted July 30, 2024 2 hours ago, RLLD said: I surmise there is some small set of Christians, and Muslims....well, perhaps more so Muslims....they are as intolerant and indoctrinated as most liberals.....but certainly we could find some folks who are Christian and intolerant....I guess... not sure why you brought Muslims or intolerance into the chat, which started when I responded to you saying the average liberal is indoctrinated. There is not a small set of christians that are indoctrinated, its all 210m. And just to address it, a lot of them are pretty intolerant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted July 30, 2024 2 hours ago, purdygood said: I would contend that most of the rioters who burned down cities weren't Democrats and most of them probably aren't even registered to vote. Agreed. Not sure why righties here don’t understand this and apparently one particular idiot thinks this notion is funny 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,257 Posted July 30, 2024 5 hours ago, thegeneral said: There are a ton of dumb ass MAGA’s out there. Remember when they thought the election was stolen? Elon was duped by a vid thinking they were stealing ballot boxes later that day Boy are you stupid. It says parody right at the top. And you’re even dumber for thinking Musk didn’t know it was parody. Such a try hard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,257 Posted July 30, 2024 51 minutes ago, Herbivore said: not sure why you brought Muslims or intolerance into the chat, which started when I responded to you saying the average liberal is indoctrinated. There is not a small set of christians that are indoctrinated, its all 210m. And just to address it, a lot of them are pretty intolerant. If you’re going to talk about intolerance then Muslims have to be at the top of the list. That’s why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,521 Posted July 30, 2024 2 hours ago, purdygood said: I would contend that most of the rioters who burned down cities weren't Democrats and most of them probably aren't even registered to vote. So that's has always been a unfair label to me. I don't know if they vote or not. I don't know if they consider themselves "Democrats" or not. What I do know is that they follow the Democrat lead. Their actions are the feelings of the Democrat party as a whole. They believe that America is bad and the historical way of life that was build, should be destroyed. That's the Democrat agenda. That's why it's a fair label. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted July 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Boy are you stupid. It says parody right at the top. And you’re even dumber for thinking Musk didn’t know it was parody. Such a try hard. That dipshlt gets his marching orders and gets to steppin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,651 Posted July 30, 2024 8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: So there’s still no motivation right? And no evidence that he did this because he hated Trump in particular or bought into the argument that Trump was a threat to democracy? Yes, I do believe that is the narrative being broadcast by the Democrat Bureau of Investigation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,123 Posted July 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If you’re going to talk about intolerance then Muslims have to be at the top of the list. That’s why. we werent talking about intolerance. we were talking about indoctrination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted July 30, 2024 5 minutes ago, nobody said: Yes, I do believe that is the narrative being broadcast by the Democrat Bureau of Investigation. So do you think the internet searches for Biden and DNC dates were fabricated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,651 Posted July 30, 2024 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: So do you think the internet searches for Biden and DNC dates were fabricated? I don't think they matter. Oh he searched things on the Internet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,257 Posted July 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, Herbivore said: we werent talking about intolerance. we were talking about indoctrination. If you’re going to talk about indoctrination then Muslims have to be at the top of the list. They believe in whackier shitt than liberals. I take that back. They don’t think men can get pregnant. But they do think a woman on her period is dirty. Nod goes to liberals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,257 Posted July 30, 2024 13 minutes ago, Reality said: That dipshlt gets his marching orders and gets to steppin'. He’s on the mailing list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,352 Posted July 30, 2024 The shooter likely identified as a “centrist”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,257 Posted July 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Gepetto said: The shooter likely identified as a “centrist”. He was against illegal immigration so he shot Trump. Book it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,352 Posted July 30, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He was against illegal immigration so he shot Trump. Book it. Yes this is correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted July 30, 2024 The new anti-immigration claims from an unknown social media site would only make sense if the Gab posts were not actually him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,123 Posted July 30, 2024 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If you’re going to talk about indoctrination then Muslims have to be at the top of the list. They believe in whackier shitt than liberals. I take that back. They don’t think men can get pregnant. But they do think a woman on her period is dirty. Nod goes to liberals. that doesnt change anyting about christian indoctrination Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,284 Posted July 30, 2024 Cut myself shaving this morning. Raised my bloody fist then got dressed for work. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,908 Posted July 30, 2024 19 minutes ago, MDC said: Cut myself shaving this morning. Raised my bloody fist then got dressed for work. The only thing bloody on you is your anus. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,724 Posted July 30, 2024 Apparently masks are “severed heads” now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites