The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Steadymobbin 22 said: Acknowledging that Kamala won this debate, which I believe…. Honest question, does the debate even matter because win, lose or draw, the media still would’ve said Kamala won. Did they say that Biden won? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, IndyColtsFan said: Harris absolutely destroyed Clownzo! aww. poor pimpledoosh needs some attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 339 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, zsasz said: I don't think American boots should ever go on the ground. I think though, as long as Ukraine wants to fight; we support them in the way we're doing. I've always maintained that the money we're spending is well spent; a fraction of our annual defense budget is helping to whittle down one of our chief adversaries. That's might not be the most humanitarian statement....but it is what it is. We agree it's well spent, but it shouldn't be in perpetuity. We need to help, but we need to have a realistic objective. Just throwing money into a stalemate is not a long term plan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted September 11, 2024 ABC already in full pro-Harris spin. I could be watching CNN. Our media is a huge huge problem, completely biased for the Democrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted September 11, 2024 Trump got roasted in this debate. Kamala set him up repeatedly. She looked competent and tough. It doesn’t matter. Everyone will just fall back to their position. This whole thing comes down to the same 100Kish voters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Did they say that Biden won? No way. YOU won timmy!! You go girl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,092 Posted September 11, 2024 Why haven't you done it? Debate over. ABC biggest loser tonight, don't think they can ever be trusted again to host a fair national debate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, Gepetto said: ABC already in full pro-Harris spin. I could be watching CNN. Our media is a huge huge problem, completely biased for the Democrats. Super commie Britt Hume just said Trump got smoked on Fox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted September 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, Steadymobbin 22 said: Acknowledging that Kamala won this debate, which I believe…. Honest question, does the debate even matter because win, lose or draw, the media still would’ve said Kamala won? 2 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: That I'm not sure of. I think she won, the question is what does that mean. Romney won a debate, but it didn't help him. But this doesn't make me feel great for him. Yep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steadymobbin 22 10 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, thegeneral said: You could just stop at the “Kamala won” part. Right, I could’ve but some people with a few more brain cells like to go a little bit deeper into the conversation. You stay behind this stuff, won’t interest you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Mark Davis said: We agree it's well spent, but it shouldn't be in perpetuity. We need to help, but we need to have a realistic objective. Just throwing money into a stalemate is not a long term plan. So what is the objective? What are you telling Putin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Gepetto said: ABC already in full pro-Harris spin. I could be watching CNN. Our media is a huge huge problem, completely biased for the Democrats. Foxnews is like a funeral right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 339 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, thegeneral said: Trump got roasted in this debate. Kamala set him up repeatedly. She looked competent and tough. It doesn’t matter. Everyone will just fall back to their position. This whole thing comes down to the same 100Kish voters. Shockingly for all our bickering I agree with most of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: Trump got roasted in this debate. Kamala set him up repeatedly. She looked competent and tough. It doesn’t matter. Everyone will just fall back to their position. This whole thing comes down to the same 100Kish voters. You and timmy should bet on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted September 11, 2024 ABC already interviewing crazy Tim Walz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted September 11, 2024 Trump didn’t talk about the cultural issues. Didn’t talk about inflation enough. Focking guy blew it bigtime. Hopefully this will be the end of him and Conservatives can finally move on. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,093 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Not that part. The “why hasn’t she done it?” part. She and her handlers should have anticipated that attack and should have blunted it with, We have done this(list of accomplishments, Chips Act/Inflation Reduction, Infrastructure) and we did it with a hostile house the entire time. That's the route I would have advised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted September 11, 2024 Harris won this debate when she walked over and shook his hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,583 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said: Foxnews is like a funeral right now It is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted September 11, 2024 Betting markets moving for Harris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, Mike Honcho said: She and her handlers should have anticipated that attack and should have blunted it with, We have done this(list of accomplishments, Chips Act/Inflation Reduction, Infrastructure) and we did it with a hostile house the entire time. That's the route I would have advised. Kameltoe had nothing. Trump being pissed off, worked out well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted September 11, 2024 Oh they're interviewing JD Vance now. Fair and impartial I guess. All they ask these guys about is abortion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, IndyColtsFan said: Harris won this debate when she walked over and shook his hand. Pimpledoosh commentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steadymobbin 22 10 Posted September 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Trump got roasted in this debate. Kamala set him up repeatedly. She looked competent and tough. It doesn’t matter. Everyone will just fall back to their position. This whole thing comes down to the same 100Kish voters. Oh, there is something in there after all. I agree on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said: Betting markets moving for Harris. Probably, but not your specialty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 790 Posted September 11, 2024 Seriously though.... THESE are the two people out of 333,000,000 Americans that we have before us? What in the actual fock.... These two? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 339 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: So what is the objective? What are you telling Putin? I'm not telling him anything. I'm asking both Putin and Zelensky questions, questions about what they can live with to end this with the parameters being Ukraine as a sovereign nation. The alternative is an endless stalemate of endless dollars and lives lost. I don't think you want that but surely you don't think Russia is just going to suddenly turn around and go home. We have to find some way to incentivize them, whether that's acknowledging land in Crimea, the Donbas, whatever it may be. And yes, Zelensky and Ukraine will have a say in that. But ultimately I think Zelensky also knows, regardless of what he must say openly in public, concessions are going to have to be made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted September 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: Shockingly for all our bickering I agree with most of this. You are one of the rationale posters here. I always appreciate reading your stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, Mark Davis said: I'm not telling him anything. I'm asking both Putin and Zelensky questions, questions about what they can live with to end this with the parameters being Ukraine as a sovereign nation. The alternative is an endless stalemate of endless dollars and lives lost. I don't think you want that but surely you don't think Russia is just going to suddenly turn around and go home. We have to find some way to incentivize them, whether that's acknowledging land in Crimea, the Donbas, whatever it may be. And yes, Zelensky and Ukraine will have a say in that. But ultimately I think Zelensky also knows, regardless of what he must say openly in public, concessions are going to have to be made. I assume this is already happening. Putin doesn’t want to give back what he got. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,093 Posted September 11, 2024 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Trump got roasted in this debate. Kamala set him up repeatedly. She looked competent and tough. It doesn’t matter. Everyone will just fall back to their position. This whole thing comes down to the same 100Kish voters. But...but...but the Electoral College makes it so all those small states matter... Are you saying they don't and it's only really 6 or 7 states that actually matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,698 Posted September 11, 2024 Vance is killing it in the wrap up show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, Mark Davis said: I'm not telling him anything. I'm asking both Putin and Zelensky questions, questions about what they can live with to end this with the parameters being Ukraine as a sovereign nation. The alternative is an endless stalemate of endless dollars and lives lost. I don't think you want that but surely you don't think Russia is just going to suddenly turn around and go home. We have to find some way to incentivize them, whether that's acknowledging land in Crimea, the Donbas, whatever it may be. And yes, Zelensky and Ukraine will have a say in that. But ultimately I think Zelensky also knows, regardless of what he must say openly in public, concessions are going to have to be made. Ukraine is a focking hell hole. Human trafficking top nation of the world. Just stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, Mark Davis said: I'm not telling him anything. I'm asking both Putin and Zelensky questions, questions about what they can live with to end this with the parameters being Ukraine as a sovereign nation. The alternative is an endless stalemate of endless dollars and lives lost. I don't think you want that but surely you don't think Russia is just going to suddenly turn around and go home. We have to find some way to incentivize them, whether that's acknowledging land in Crimea, the Donbas, whatever it may be. And yes, Zelensky and Ukraine will have a say in that. But ultimately I think Zelensky also knows, regardless of what he must say openly in public, concessions are going to have to be made. Your an easy 50 point higher IQ than they guy you're trying to educate. Good man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,583 Posted September 11, 2024 ABC broad Candy Crowley’d the abortion . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted September 11, 2024 Eating pets! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 790 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: I assume this is already happening. Putin doesn’t want to give back what he got. And wtf do we do if he says, fock it.. pull our guys out and glass that whole focking thing. I don't know what the solution is... but I highly doubt it's Russia letting Nato next door. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted September 11, 2024 This debate was about Kamala. People know Trump’s shtick. She looked tough, she goaded him, she at worst held her own. Not sure what more you could ask for. Her camp should immediately ask for more debates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,093 Posted September 11, 2024 Fox News straight up saying she smoked him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,583 Posted September 11, 2024 Megyn Kelly of all people taking ABC to task over their activist moderators Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steadymobbin 22 10 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, mmmmm...beer said: Seriously though.... these are the two people out of 333,000,000 Americans that we have before us? What in the actual fock.... Agreed man. There are YouTubers with better debating skills, presence and command of a room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites