The Real timschochet 6,616 Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: They should rename this the virtue signaling awards. All these f****** don't give two s**** about illegal immigrants. They just want to be seen to care. They don't live by these people. They don't take them in. They have Gates around their homes. You know this may be hard for you to accept, but some of us legitimately disagree with your POV on this issue. Not because we are seeking virtue points, not because we hate you or hate America, but because we think you’re wrong. We don’t think you’re evil, just wrong. And just like you we want what’s best for this country, just don’t agree with you on how to get there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,025 Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You know this may be hard for you to accept, but some of us legitimately disagree with your POV on this issue. Not because we are seeking virtue points, not because we hate you or hate America, but because we think you’re wrong. We don’t think you’re evil, just wrong. And just like you we want what’s best for this country, just don’t agree with you on how to get there. Okay. But the problem is you don't have to face this on a day-to-day basis. You live behind your Gates and you're gilded towers and you expect everybody else have to deal with the problem. You don't think about the US citizens that are victims of a lot of these people. And that is absolutely f****** insane. You cover for these illegals over US citizens. That is terrible. But hey, as long as you can get up on a stage and let everyone know how virtuous you are, that's the extent of your effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,616 Posted February 3 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Okay. But the problem is you don't have to face this on a day-to-day basis. You live behind your Gates and you're gilded towers and you expect everybody else have to deal with the problem. You don't think about the US citizens that are victims of a lot of these people. And that is absolutely f****** insane. But hey, as long as you can get up on a stage and let everyone know how virtuous you are, that's the extent of your effort. Well you’re not talking about me, lol. I don’t live behind any gates. And I do deal with undocumented people every day. Also I really do care about anyone who was a victim of a crime, no matter who committed it. All undocumented people who commit violent crimes should be rounded up and kicked out of the country immediately. I just think it’s unfair to persecute the rest, that’s all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,704 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Why is it so hard to call them undocumented? They’re here illegally.They entered illegally and have no legal standing. They are illegal. If you drive you car and leave your license at home you are driving undocumented, you have a license but it’s not on you. If you are pulled over while driving undocumented you might get a citation or just a warning. they are illegal aliens or call them illegal migrants . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,704 Posted February 3 29 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: They should rename this the virtue signaling awards. All these f****** don't give two s**** about illegal immigrants. They just want to be seen to care. They don't live by these people. They don't take them in. They have Gates around their homes. Tim is a beautiful person but has to mix with the rabble doing the commercial real estate gig and on occasion hire some bad hombres on the cheap. But otherwise lives a bucolic life without the day to day worries of people dealing with the problems the illegals bring 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,277 Posted February 3 13 hours ago, Strike said: Illegals shut down the 101 freeway in Los Angeles. Nothing says let us stay more than disrupting the lives of the people in your new community. I saw one sign . It was a MAGA sign. It read: Mexicans Always Get Across Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,519 Posted February 3 13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: And the reasons these protestors wave Mexican flags is because California used to be part of Mexico until it was seized by the USA in a war they believe to have been unlawful. Therefore their argument is, even though they are not asking for California back, they have the right to be here and to pass back and forth between the two countries. I think they have a legitimate argument. So, how about this new Executive Order.... The US will allow every illegal immigrant to live in California, without fear of deportation. Then, Trump signs an agreement with Mexico, to give California back to them... and we wall off California. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,025 Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: So, how about this new Executive Order.... The US will allow every illegal immigrant to live in California, without fear of deportation. Then, Trump signs an agreement with Mexico, to give California back to them... and we wall off California. Illegal war my @ss. The entirety of human civilization is nothing but blood and violence with groups of people taking sh#t from other groups of people. This is not unique to the United States. Mexico lost, in this case. Time to move on. Send all the illegals back. All of them. If every country had to "give back" what they took, we would have to give everything back to the cavemen. Any of them still around since they were here first? And, I would like to point out, all these liberals calling to "give back" sh#t are unwilling to give up anything of their own. When they say we should "give back" stuff, they're talking about YOU, not them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,025 Posted February 3 13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: And the reasons these protestors wave Mexican flags is because California used to be part of Mexico until it was seized by the USA in a war they believe to have been unlawful. Therefore their argument is, even though they are not asking for California back, they have the right to be here and to pass back and forth between the two countries. I think they have a legitimate argument. Tough sh#t. There are no "take backsies". They lost, fair and square. They have ZERO rights to pass thru unless they do it legally LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO IN EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,519 Posted February 3 13 hours ago, Strike said: Illegals shut down the 101 freeway in Los Angeles. Nothing says let us stay more than disrupting the lives of the people in your new community. You know what would've been great... Trump sending ICE to 101 and arrest and deport all the undocumented. When the "sympathizers" attack ICE and get arrested, we'd see how fast the liberals change their tune on attacking federal agents and the rule of law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted February 3 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: You seem upset. Is Shakira not allowed to express an opinion? She strikes me as a wonderful person. You may disagree with her but I guarantee you she doesn’t care about virtue points; she speaks from the heart. And she is a beautiful woman at 48. She’s hot piece of ass, but she needs to STFU on this one. United States has 52 million illegal immigrants - by far the most of any country in the world and it’s not even close. We have more than 3x as many as the #2 country. Basically one out of every six people living in this country today is illegal. It’s absolutely ridiculous and it’s 100% the Democrats’ fault. Instead of lecturing the US on immigration, Shakira should spend her time trying to fix the mess that’s going on in her own country, particularly with drug production. That is a problem that is literally killing people. So yeah Shakira, STFU and just shake your ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,519 Posted February 3 13 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Illegal war my @ss. The entirety of human civilization is nothing but blood and violence with groups of people taking sh#t from other groups of people. This is not unique to the United States. Mexico lost, in this case. Time to move on. Send all the illegals back. All of them. If every country had to "give back" what they took, we would have to give everything back to the cavemen. Any of them still around since they were here first? And, I would like to point out, all these liberals calling to "give back" sh#t are unwilling to give up anything of their own. When they say we should "give back" stuff, they're talking about YOU, not them. I would just think that it would be funny to allow the liberals to get what they want. Illegals are free (in California), and then give California back to Mexico. Everyone wins. We don't have to spend any time and money deporting illegals, because they'll go willingly... it's what liberals want, right? Illegals to be free in the US. Problem solved. Then we address another issue the liberals have. They always gripe how the US stole land. Well, in this case, Mexico agrees. So, after the illegals go to California, we give California back to Mexico. Problem solved. No more illegals and no more stolen land. No one loses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,025 Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I would just think that it would be funny to allow the liberals to get what they want. Illegals are free (in California), and then give California back to Mexico. Everyone wins. We don't have to spend any time and money deporting illegals, because they'll go willingly... it's what liberals want, right? Illegals to be free in the US. Problem solved. Then we address another issue the liberals have. They always gripe how the US stole land. Well, in this case, Mexico agrees. So, after the illegals go to California, we give California back to Mexico. Problem solved. No more illegals and no more stolen land. No one loses. Well, we lose. Now we have Mexico on our southern and western borders. They would just invade from the west and then complain that Arizona, Utah, etc... "used to be ours too". No thanks. That's the problem with liberal culture - give in to their demands and it's never enough. Then they just push for more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,519 Posted February 3 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Well, we lose. Now we have Mexico on our southern and western borders. They would just invade from the west. No thanks and then complain that Arizona, Utah, etc... "used to be ours too". That's the problem with liberal culture - give in to their demands and it's never enough. Then they just push for more. I'd wall off California too. I'd have done that years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 3 Some migrants arrested in Trump's immigration crackdown have been released back into the U.S. Space constraints and court orders have led ICE to release migrants on monitoring programs after they’re arrested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,277 Posted February 3 2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: So, how about this new Executive Order.... The US will allow every illegal immigrant to live in California, without fear of deportation. Then, Trump signs an agreement with Mexico, to give California back to them... and we wall off California. We would miss the port of Long Beach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,277 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: I'd wall off California too. I'd have done that years ago. Yep. They befoul their state with their policies, find it unlivable, migrate to where we ahve been resposnible, and then tell us we are doing things wrong. They want to educate us as to how any issue was handled in California. Hey a-holes, we know how you handled it. That is why we don't live there and you fled, remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,410 Posted February 3 NJ governor harboring an illegal and daring the Feds to come get it: https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1886431609965965797 Let's hope......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted February 3 43 minutes ago, Strike said: NJ governor harboring an illegal and daring the Feds to come get it: https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1886431609965965797 Let's hope......... "Her". Slimeball liberal mayor ways of trying to get some Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,181 Posted February 3 43 minutes ago, Strike said: NJ governor harboring an illegal and daring the Feds to come get it: https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1886431609965965797 Let's hope......... "It?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,616 Posted February 3 45 minutes ago, Strike said: NJ governor harboring an illegal and daring the Feds to come get it: https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1886431609965965797 Let's hope......... Reminds me of Anthony Burns: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Burns The sanctuary movement are today’s version of abolitionists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted February 3 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Reminds me of Anthony Burns: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Burns The sanctuary movement are today’s version of abolitionists. No it isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,704 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Strike said: NJ governor harboring an illegal and daring the Feds to come get it: https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1886431609965965797 Let's hope......... Sounds like a threat “and good luck to the feds coming in to try to get her." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,704 Posted February 3 46 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Reminds me of Anthony Burns: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Burns The sanctuary movement are today’s version of abolitionists. No matter how stupid you get there is always a next level like this post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,277 Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Sounds like a threat “and good luck to the feds coming in to try to get her." From his cryptic phrasing of her immigration status there is not probable cause to detain or arrest her. There is reasonable articulable suspicion to observe, to investigate. There is some evidence if she does prove to be illegal to charge him with aiding and abetting her continuing, everyday violation of the law. He claims to know her immigration situation and if it proves out that she did benefit from his harboring her that would be enough to successfully prosecute him, not in Massachusetts of course, but in the real world it would . If his claim of knowledge matches her illegal sdtatus he may have problems. Who knows. Maybe the Supremes will be answering the question of whether the Chief State Administrative officer has immunity co-extensive within their state as does the President. Pretty tough to argue that harboring a fugitive is an official state action, but this could get spicy. I do dearly hope she is young and hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,704 Posted February 3 Happening now in LA Send them all back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 387 Posted February 3 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: Happening now in LA Send them all back Happened in Atlanta yesterday as well. I'm all for people being proud of their country, but the flags kind of underline the point that these aren't Americans. Well, except for the career protest folks who need something to do when they wake up in mom's basement after lunch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,616 Posted February 3 16 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: but the flags kind of underline the point that these aren't Americans. Interesting. So when on St Patrick’s Day Irish flags are waved, those folks aren’t American either? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 387 Posted February 3 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Interesting. So when on St Patrick’s Day Irish flags are waved, those folks aren’t American either? I wasn't aware we had protests that are blocking the streets made up of people waving the flag of Ireland. I also don't think we have that many illegal immigrants from Ireland. But if I'm wrong and they have done so, or we do have that many, I'm all for the same repatriation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,616 Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: I wasn't aware we had protests that are blocking the streets made up of people waving the flag of Ireland. I also don't think we have that many illegal immigrants from Ireland. But if I'm wrong and they have done so, or we do have that many, I'm all for the same repatriation. Neither of your points go to your earlier statement that waving flags of another country demonstrate that the wavers are not American. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 387 Posted February 3 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Neither of your points go to your earlier statement that waving flags of another country demonstrate that the wavers are not American. Sure they do, you're trying to broaden my comment out to make an arguing point where one doesn't exist. I stated that about the people in the video who are blocking streets and waving the Mexican flag in an anti-ICE protest. It's a little different than a parade of some sort or annual celebration, or World Cup game etc. A good many people who might do so in other situations at the very least aren't anti-ICE. By definition, those people in that video are. Now why would that be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,616 Posted February 3 Just now, Mark Davis said: Sure they do, you're trying to broaden my comment out to make an arguing point where one doesn't exist. I stated that about the people in the video who are blocking streets and waving the Mexican flag in an anti-ICE protest. It's a little different than a parade of some sort or annual celebration, or World Cup game etc. A good many people who might do so in other situations at the very least aren't anti-ICE. By definition, those people in that video are. Now why would that be? They don’t agree with ICE’s current policies. Neither do I. Doesn’t make me less American. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted February 3 Just now, The Real timschochet said: They don’t agree with ICE’s current policies. Neither do I. Doesn’t make me less American. Yes it does. 2 Restaurants were raided here and they arrested the owner for harboring Illegal Immigrants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 387 Posted February 3 Just now, The Real timschochet said: They don’t agree with ICE’s current policies. Neither do I. Doesn’t make me less American. Totally different argument then. You're welcome to a differing viewpoint, but the comment wasn't about what you believe. I still contend that if the status of the people in that video were ascertained that a substantial portion would be illegal. Common sense says it's so, and I suspect you know that as well, at least I hope so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,277 Posted February 3 52 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: Happened in Atlanta yesterday as well. I'm all for people being proud of their country, but the flags kind of underline the point that these aren't Americans. Well, except for the career protest folks who need something to do when they wake up in mom's basement after lunch. I thought they were hiding, in fear, in Tim's attic, from the new American Gestapo. I am surprised they could take time away from work. (Of course if all they are doing is collecting benefits there is plenty of money for buying flags and plenty of time to disrupt the lives of working people.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 387 Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I thought they were hiding, in fear, in Tim's attic, from the new American Gestapo. I am surprised they could take time away from work. (Of course if all they are doing is collecting benefits there is plenty of money for buying flags and plenty of time to disrupt the lives of working people.) I don't dispute there are some voluntarily unemployed American malcontents in there. In retrospect, I could be short sighted on the makeup of the crowd due to that reason, by definition it's pretty hard for someone working to be out there in the middle of the day. I do find it funny as an American the thought of waving the flag of another country though. I'd have to be pretty miserable with my life to do so but then again I have things pretty good. Plus my dad who was in WWII might come out of the grave to beat me to death for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,277 Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: I don't dispute there are some voluntarily unemployed American malcontents in there. In retrospect, I could be short sighted on the makeup of the crowd due to that reason, by definition it's pretty hard for someone working to be out there in the middle of the day. I do find it funny as an American the thought of waving the flag of another country though. I'd have to be pretty miserable with my life to do so but then again I have things pretty good. Plus my dad who was in WWII might come out of the grave to beat me to death for it. Zombie WWII G.I.'s scare me, I don't mind saying. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,453 Posted February 3 49 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Interesting. So when on St Patrick’s Day Irish flags are waved, those folks aren’t American either? The has to be one of your lamest arguments; and you have a lot of lame arguments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 226 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Mark Davis said: I don't dispute there are some voluntarily unemployed American malcontents in there. In retrospect, I could be short sighted on the makeup of the crowd due to that reason, by definition it's pretty hard for someone working to be out there in the middle of the day. I do find it funny as an American the thought of waving the flag of another country though. I'd have to be pretty miserable with my life to do so but then again I have things pretty good. Plus my dad who was in WWII might come out of the grave to beat me to death for it. Your dad would be disappointed in what he sees now. It used to be common sense & hard work. now it's people with their hand out & the Dems are willing to pay for a vote. you really think this 12 million immigrants they let in are because they care? not in the slightest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
