Mass Deportation

[SUXBNME 1,499]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

I apologize if raising a matter clearly needing consideration by Tim when he states his position may have angered you to whom the question was not addressed.  You must have very big feelings for me to have hit them as I aimed, quite narrowly, for Tim.

It's a Porkys reference, you drunken fool ....Somehow, I think you already knew that 
 

eta: I just tried to comprehend your post, and I am now the drunken fool   DAMMIT

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

49 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Tom Homan said 700,000 of an estimated 20 million illegal immigrants are violent criminals.

I would ask tom Homan the same question I asked Tim who could not answer.  What does Tom Homan mean when he says violent?  Does he mean physical force was applied and injury resulted?  What about your garden variety stalker, is that violent?  I know if my daughter were stalked by an obsessed illegal who had suggested he would hurt her if she did not take him back, or even agree to take him the first time I would not want that person to be able to remain.  Say they were convicted, got 30 days and an anger management course.  Would I feel safe, would my daughter?  The recidivism rate there is high and frankly he would have already dome substantial violence to her psyche if not her physical being.  The concept of violence is being thrown around but who knows what it means unless we get more indepth by offering comprehensive definitions..  

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4 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

It's a Porkys reference, you drunken fool ....Somehow, I think you already knew that 
 

eta: I just tried to comprehend your post, and I am now the drunken fool   DAMMIT

Tonight I take unbrage with the drunken part of your cahracterization of me.  I am stoe cold sober at the moment.

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33 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Then deport them. And let the rest find a way to stay. Does anyone oppose this idea? 

Yes.  For reasons we've gone over 100 times before.  Not sure why you feel the need to regurgitate the same arguments over and over, year after year. 

[The Real timschochet 6,755]

42 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yes.  For reasons we've gone over 100 times before.  Not sure why you feel the need to regurgitate the same arguments over and over, year after year. 

I guess because I don’t understand why you would have such an unreasonable, inhumane attitude. 

I honestly don’t. Earlier you accused me of calling you racist but I didn’t. I don’t believe you are and therefore I find your position on this unjustifiable. Racists can have this position and I get that. But you don’t have that excuse. 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,755]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

I would ask tom Homan the same question I asked Tim who could not answer.  What does Tom Homan mean when he says violent?  Does he mean physical force was applied and injury resulted?  What about your garden variety stalker, is that violent?  I know if my daughter were stalked by an obsessed illegal who had suggested he would hurt her if she did not take him back, or even agree to take him the first time I would not want that person to be able to remain.  Say they were convicted, got 30 days and an anger management course.  Would I feel safe, would my daughter?  The recidivism rate there is high and frankly he would have already dome substantial violence to her psyche if not her physical being.  The concept of violence is being thrown around but who knows what it means unless we get more indepth by offering comprehensive definitions..  

1. It’s irrelevant to Tom Homan because he wants them all deported anyway, violent or not. 

2. it’s irrelevant to me because I believe I can look at an individual situation and say “yeah that’s a bad guy; he deserves to go” with a certain amount of ease, But by asking it you avoid the central point which is: whatever your definition of violent criminal, or serious criminal, or bad person, or whatever term you wish to use, we should all be able to agree on one thing: the vast majority of undocumented immigrants do not fit that description. What then is to become of them? Tom Homan wants them rounded up and sent away. @Strike seems to agree with this (at least he doesn’t disagree). What do you think should happen to them? Please answer, as I tried my best to answer you. 

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2 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

I would ask tom Homan the same question I asked Tim who could not answer.  What does Tom Homan mean when he says violent?  Does he mean physical force was applied and injury resulted?  What about your garden variety stalker, is that violent?  I know if my daughter were stalked by an obsessed illegal who had suggested he would hurt her if she did not take him back, or even agree to take him the first time I would not want that person to be able to remain.  Say they were convicted, got 30 days and an anger management course.  Would I feel safe, would my daughter?  The recidivism rate there is high and frankly he would have already dome substantial violence to her psyche if not her physical being.  The concept of violence is being thrown around but who knows what it means unless we get more indepth by offering comprehensive definitions..  

He's talking about those with criminal charges (not sure if that answers your question though). 

Starts at 25:52 in the video here: 

 

I would suggest listening to the entire video to understand the realities of the situation and the U.S. goals regarding illegals.

[Maximum Overkill 1,988]

Liberals are losing seats 

[Ron_Artest 1,506]

Trump taco'ed on his declaration that he was going to stop raiding farms, hotels and restaurants, just days after he said he would.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/06/16/trump-farms-hotels-immigration-raids/

 

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9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

1. It’s irrelevant to Tom Homan because he wants them all deported anyway, violent or not. 

2. it’s irrelevant to me because I believe I can look at an individual situation and say “yeah that’s a bad guy; he deserves to go” with a certain amount of ease, But by asking it you avoid the central point which is: whatever your definition of violent criminal, or serious criminal, or bad person, or whatever term you wish to use, we should all be able to agree on one thing: the vast majority of undocumented immigrants do not fit that description. What then is to become of them? Tom Homan wants them rounded up and sent away. @Strike seems to agree with this (at least he doesn’t disagree). What do you think should happen to them? Please answer, as I tried my best to answer you. 

I would not make the mistake Reagan made and which you want to repeat.  I would not reward those who have violated our borders, our soveriegnty.  I would deport them all.  I would not listen to their sob stories that we are disrupting families or communities.  The reason I would not is that it would encourage, it would justify continuing the cycle of illegal immigration, just as it has.  Additionally it is an insult to those who have properly stood in line and have legally sought entry.  Now me, I would expand the number of legal immigrants we take in each year.  I would expand the guest worker program as well.  Additionally I would allow each Congressperson and Senator to sponsor up to ten nuclear families per year so long as they otherwise qualifified for admittance and citizenship.  I would massively tighten the asylum program so that not every sob story sister can get in.  I would assure that asylum can only be applied for from outside our borders, not inside.  I would tighten and clarify birthright citizenship including the fact that it does not come with the right to be raised in this country by parents who are illegal, it does not confer citizenship or residency rights on the parents.  If illegals have kids here maybe the kid is a citizen and should be allowed to return when they reach the age of majority after their parents raise that kid in their country of citizenship.  In the end you look to support and comfort those who have jumped the line, who have broken the law.  I look to support and comfort those who have and are standing in line, who are honoring our law.  One stance gives us borders and soveriegnty, one stance does not.   

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1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Liberals are losing seats 

The more they talk/post/act the more they make themselves look even more stupid than the last time they talked/posted/acted. 

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32 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

The more they talk/post/act the more they make themselves look even more stupid than the last time they talked/posted/acted. 

Their playbook hasn't changed. They learned nothing from the last election.  

They're going to get smoked again. Vance 2028 

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8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I guess because I don’t understand why you would have such an unreasonable, inhumane attitude. 

I honestly don’t. Earlier you accused me of calling you racist but I didn’t. I don’t believe you are and therefore I find your position on this unjustifiable. Racists can have this position and I get that. But you don’t have that excuse. 

 

Liar.  You've called me racist and xenophobe for years.  At least own up to your own words.  You may not agree with me but I own up to my words.  Everytime. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,408]

Real Tim thinks flooding the  country was done for humanitarian purposes and he’s the good guy. Reality is it was done for more seats and votes and Real Tim is a greedy pig. HTH. 

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17 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

What about crimes of moral turpitude?

These are the BEST crimes. My favorites. I make daily commissions of these crimes.

Moral TRUMPitude, if you will.

[The Real timschochet 6,755]

3 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

I would not make the mistake Reagan made and which you want to repeat.  I would not reward those who have violated our borders, our soveriegnty.  I would deport them all.  I would not listen to their sob stories that we are disrupting families or communities.  The reason I would not is that it would encourage, it would justify continuing the cycle of illegal immigration, just as it has.  Additionally it is an insult to those who have properly stood in line and have legally sought entry.  Now me, IIwould expand the number of legal immigrants we take in each year.  i would expand the guest worker program as well.  Additionally I would allow each Congressperson and Senator to sponsor up to ten nuclear families per year so long as they otherwise qualifified for admittance and citizenship.  I would massively tighten the asylum program so that not every sob story sister can get in.  I would assure that asylum can only be applied for from outside our borders, not inside.  I would tighten and clarify birthright citizenship including the fact that it does not come with the right to be raised in this country by parents who are illegal, it does not confer citizenship or residency rights on the parents.  If illegals have kids here maybe the kid is a citizen and should be allowed to return when they reach the age of majority after their parents raise that kid in their country of citizenship.  In the end you look to support and comfort those who have jumped the line, who have broken the law.  i look to support and comfort those who have and are standing in line, who are honoring our law.  One stance gives us borders and soveriegnty, one stance does not.   

Thank you for answering. As you would no doubt suspect, I fundamentally and strongly disagree with your position here (at least the “deport them all” part.) I find it unreasonable and unworkable. But I appreciate the clarification. 
 

The polling indicates that attitudes are changing about this and that the public really doesn’t want what you are proposing, despite the fact that that they appeared to want it last November. I hope that’s true, we will see. 

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1 hour ago, Strike said:

Liar.  You've called me racist and xenophobe for years.  At least own up to your own words.  You may not agree with me but I own up to my words.  Everytime. 

I’ve thought so in the past. I don’t anymore. But I still find your views on this issue unreasonable. 

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On 6/17/2025 at 8:46 AM, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve thought so in the past. I don’t anymore. But I still find your views on this issue unreasonable. 

Sure, until the next time you "think" I'm racist.  Sorry man, you got to own up to your words.  

[Strike 5,535]

Another day, another violent illegal:

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/knife-wielding-man-chases-u-s-attorney-downtown-20382778.php

Thank god he won't just get a pass again.

[seafoam1 3,017]

5 hours ago, Strike said:

Another day, another violent illegal:

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/knife-wielding-man-chases-u-s-attorney-downtown-20382778.php

Thank god he won't just get a pass again.

biden's and liberal voter's fault.

Authorities believe the man who confronted John A. Sarcone III was in the country illegally

[thegeneral 3,207]

Joe Rogan finally figured out they would be deporting gardeners and construction workers by doing raids.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,408]

I remember growing up in the 70’s and somehow the grass got cut and leaves got raked and the schools weren’t overcrowded with illegals. Shitt was crazy back then. Oh and the dishes got washed. 

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And here is why I hate the MSM:

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-grandfather-detained-ice-walking-dog/

So, here's a guy who's been in the U.S. for close to 50 years.  And he either has a long rap sheet or a very short one, and either has a deportation order from 1990 or doesn't.  But does the MSM do their job and research these issues?  They're public records.  They have the rap sheet of mass shooters in a matter of hours but now, days later, they still aren't saying what this guys background is.  Or they do know but don't want to report it because it doesn't fit the narrative of the story they're trying to tell.  But people like @The Real timschochet believe these sources without even questioning them.  What bullsh*t.

Oh, and for the record, I live in the same city this guy used to live in.  Good to see ICE is active here 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I remember growing up in the 70’s and somehow the grass got cut and leaves got raked and the schools weren’t overcrowded with illegals. Shitt was crazy back then. Oh and the dishes got washed. 

To be fair, I grew up in the 70's too and the illegals were still cutting the grass back then.  The difference is they knew their place and stayed in the shadows for the most part.  It wasn't common to see groups of them bothering you outside a 7-11 as it is now where I grew up.

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6 minutes ago, Strike said:

To be fair, I grew up in the 70's too and the illegals were still cutting the grass back then.  The difference is they knew their place and stayed in the shadows for the most part.  It wasn't common to see groups of them bothering you outside a 7-11 as it is now where I grew up.

I’m sure. I guess what I’m saying is that my neighborhood then didn’t have an army of landscapers coming in and doing basic lawn care.  In my neighborhood now, a 30 home cul-de-sac, about half the houses don’t do the basic lawn mowing. And these aren’t all seniors or people unable to do it. These are bourgeois asssholes. 

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16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m sure. I guess what I’m saying is that my neighborhood then didn’t have an army of landscapers coming in and doing basic lawn care.  In my neighborhood now, a 30 home cul-de-sac, about half the houses don’t do the basic lawn mowing. And these aren’t all seniors or people unable to do it. These are bourgeois asssholes. 

Keep us posted on your neighbors landscaping needs!

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1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Keep us posted on your neighbors landscaping needs!

Sue thing. You keep us posted on the common area being cleaned.

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On 6/18/2025 at 1:01 PM, Strike said:

Another day, another violent illegal:

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/knife-wielding-man-chases-u-s-attorney-downtown-20382778.php

Thank god he won't just get a pass again.

Does anyone really care if we attorneys are forced to do a bit of cardio?  

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

Julio Cesar Chavez got scooped up.  I wonder if that portends trouble for foriegn born competitors at teh World Cup and the Olympics.

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1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Julio Cesar Chavez got scooped up.  I wonder if that portends trouble for foriegn born competitors at teh World Cup and the Olympics.

I’m hoping to see Rory McIlroy deported.