If Trump wins

[The Real timschochet 6,760]

I still don’t think Trump is going to win, but he’s tied in the polls and the momentum for now appears to be on his side. So I have to consider it a strong possibility. Ugh. Even so I remain an optimist. Here’s what I think and hope if that happens: 

1. Trump has promised a 20% tariff on all imports from all countries, higher on China. My friend @jerryskids assures me this will never actually happen, that it’s simply a starting point in a negotiation to get other countries to trade with us more fairly. So I’m going to hope that he is right about this. Or, if he is wrong, I’m going to trust that the immediate economic backlash of such actions will force Trump to withdraw the tariffs shortly after he has enforced them. 

2. Trump has promised to institute mass deportation of undocumented immigrants. For that he needs money, tons of it, and the willingness of Congress to go along. Ultimately he won’t get it. There will be a lot of fear and IMO bad results as he reinstates some of the awful executive orders from his previous term. Eventually we will have a more comprehensive solution to this issue but that will have to wait. 

3. We will cut off aid to Ukraine. That WILL happen and it likely means Ukraine will have to concede large areas of territory to Russia ala the Munich conference of 1938. Trump may also pull out of NATO. Trump may also refuse to defend Taiwan and refuse to defend South Korea. Expect an isolationist push around the world, except for Israel which we will unequivocally support no matter what actions they take. Conservatives apparently believe this will make us safer (or at least it won’t harm us). I doubt that but I will hope they’re right. 
 

4. Trump will seek a tax cut but he’ll only get one if the House stays Republican, which is a 50/50 bet. Either way so long as the tariffs and trade war are avoided the economy should continue to improve as we are a robust nation and capitalism works. Trump will take credit but I don’t care; I want good things to happen always and it disgusts me when people, including those on my side, root for bad things to happen because the wrong guy is President. So hopefully the economy booms. But if Trump gets his tariffs you can throw that all out the window. 

5. Liberals fear that Trump will end our democracy. I’ve never believed this. He is an authoritarian and he will attempt to weaponize the DOJ (no it is not weaponized now) to punish his enemies. These attempts will likely fail. 

6. Conservatives expect a Trump victory will mean an end to all of the woke culture they detest about modern American society. That won’t happen. Woke is mostly inevitable change, and IMO positive change. Transgenders, gays, women, blacks, will continue to gain more and more rights even during the next 4 years despite attempts to slow that down. Eventually women will regain the right to abortion once again everywhere in this country. I’m extremely confident about this. Just may take a little longer. 
 

7. The argument over climate change will be unaffected because there’s not much difference in policy between the two parties. Harris’ current views on fracking represents a truth that liberals will never admit: no matter how bad climate change gets we will never try to fight it by punishing big industry and the consumer. It will never happen. At some point some President is going to wake up and propose a huge investment into nuclear energy, and particularly nuclear fusion. If that’s Trump then despite everything else he could still go down as one of our greatest Presidents. 
 

So that’s all for now. If Trump wins I will wish him well because I wish this country well and he will be my President. I will hope for the best. 

[HellToupee 1,773]

For 80-85% it’s meet the new boss same as the old boss. The sissies have to keep themselves in check and drop the hysteria. It’s all a show , an illusion 

[The Real timschochet 6,760]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

For 80-85% it’s meet the new boss same as the old boss. The sissies have to keep themselves in check and drop the hysteria. It’s all a show , an illusion 

Well I suppose I am a sissy because that 15-20% worries me quite a bit in this instance. But I’m a hopeful guy so I will hope you’re right. If he wins that is. 

[weepaws 3,191]

Covid returns.  

[BiffTannen 953]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nice response. 

I throw $10 worth of dimes on the ground. That will keep you occupied until thanksgiving 

[Strike 5,538]

We needed another thread about the election

[The Real timschochet 6,760]

9 minutes ago, BiffTannen said:

I throw $10 worth of dimes on the ground. That will keep you occupied until thanksgiving 

I assume this is an anti-Semitic comment? Interesting how you guys are all coming out of the woodwork lately. 

[5-Points 3,526]

We all win!

[BiffTannen 953]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I assume this is an anti-Semitic comment? Interesting how you guys are all coming out of the woodwork lately. 

Anti-semantic? No, you come off as a penny chaser and an d-bag. 

[F1erce 88]

Did we really need a thread where the far left weirdo freaks complain again about Trump? All I see in this thread is a bunch of pussi boys whining like baby back b1tches 

[squistion 2,197]

56 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I still don’t think Trump is going to win, but he’s tied in the polls and the momentum for now appears to be on his side. So I have to consider it a strong possibility. Ugh. Even so I remain an optimist. Here’s what I think and hope if that happens: 

What do you base that on?

[squistion 2,197]

24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I assume this is an anti-Semitic comment? Interesting how you guys are all coming out of the woodwork lately. 

Of course it is.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,438]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I assume this is an anti-Semitic comment? Interesting how you guys are all coming out of the woodwork lately. 

 What’s interesting is our new immigrant friends have now invaded us because they were expelled from their home and now have come here from the place they destroyed and think they belong here to make the same mistakes. 

[The Real timschochet 6,760]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

What do you base that on?

NBC poll had him 5 points down two weeks ago, now they’re tied. What are we supposed to conclude by this? Other polls from reputable sources also have Trump gaining. He’s not ahead yet but he’s at least caught up to her. 
 

I wish it wasn’t so, but if you look at this objectively I don’t see how you can reach any other conclusion than the momentum is currently on his side. Hopefully that changes. 

[The Real timschochet 6,760]

2 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 What’s interesting is our new immigrant friends have now invaded us because they were expelled from their home and now have come here from the place they destroyed and think they belong here to make the same mistakes. 

I completely disagree with you but I also don’t understand why you posted it in response to that comment. What does your argument have to do with anti-Semitism? 

[BiffTannen 953]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

NBC poll had him 5 points down two weeks ago, now they’re tied. What are we supposed to conclude by this? Other polls from reputable sources also have Trump gaining. He’s not ahead yet but he’s at least caught up to her. 
 

I wish it wasn’t so, but if you look at this objectively I don’t see how you can reach any other conclusion than the momentum is currently on his side. Hopefully that changes. 

You have put yourself in a position where you have axed a woman to do a man’s job. Quit complaining. 

[Horseman 2,453]

He doesn't need to ask congress for money to round up and export illegals.  Defence budget in the name of national security, just like the border wall.  #1 job of the president is to keep us all safe.  

[squistion 2,197]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

NBC poll had him 5 points down two weeks ago, now they’re tied. What are we supposed to conclude by this? Other polls from reputable sources also have Trump gaining. He’s not ahead yet but he’s at least caught up to her. 
 

I wish it wasn’t so, but if you look at this objectively I don’t see how you can reach any other conclusion than the momentum is currently on his side. Hopefully that changes. 

That is an outlier? I don't see anything that has happened to Trump or Harris that would shift the momentum in his favor. NBC at 5 points I would imagine is not within the margin of error, but the other reputable polls probably are. 

[BiffTannen 953]

Tim will get all wound up. His lesser half will revert back to the bottle, and we will all have cheap gas again. Win-win 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,438]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I completely disagree with you but I also don’t understand why you posted it in response to that comment. What does your argument have to do with anti-Semitism? 

 Of course you don’t. You are the one that said “coming out of the woodwork lately”. Hope that helps. 

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

I predict liberals will cry non stop. Immediately file fake impeachments and cry about Russia 

fock Ukraine. Fock Lebanon. Fock Israel. Gaza. 
 

deport the criminals 

sounds good to me

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

5. Liberals fear that Trump will end our democracy. I’ve never believed this. He is an authoritarian and he will attempt to weaponize the DOJ (no it is not weaponized now) to punish his enemies. These attempts will likely fail. 

 

Tim, this is a terrific well written piece, but I’d move this to no. 1. His comments have become more intense, including today. This is the guy Washington warned us against and shielded us against. It’s a full on alert.

[The Real timschochet 6,760]

5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Tim, this is a terrific well written piece, but I’d move this to no. 1. His comments have become more intense, including today. This is the guy Washington warned us against and shielded us against. It’s a full on alert.

In analyzing Trump (always a difficult task) I feel like he is more of a King Henry VIII type of tyrant than a Hitler type- what I mean by this is that he cares much more about punishing his personal enemies than he does about any ideology or imposing whatever system on the rest of us. About that he is indifferent. 

If he becomes President again his redeeming factor is that he wants to be loved by everyone. He will quickly forgive people whatever transgressions if they profess their love for him. That means that if something is not working or goes wrong for the public he will quickly change his mind. That gives me hope that in the end things will be OK even during his Presidency no matter how much he screws up. 

[squistion 2,197]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

In analyzing Trump (always a difficult task) I feel like he is more of a King Henry VIII type of tyrant than a Hitler type- what I mean by this is that he cares much more about punishing his personal enemies than he does about any ideology or imposing whatever system on the rest of us. About that he is indifferent. 

If he becomes President again his redeeming factor is that he wants to be loved by everyone. He will quickly forgive people whatever transgressions if they profess their love for him. That means that if something is not working or goes wrong for the public he will quickly change his mind. That gives me hope that in the end things will be OK even during his Presidency no matter how much he screws up. 

What planet are you living on if you think any Democrat will profess their love for him? 

[OldMaid 2,130]

Trump is not winning this election. Stop hyperventilating.

[BiffTannen 953]

2 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Trump is not winning this election. Stop hyperventilating.

You willing to put money on that?  Edjr is a great banker. We both send him $5000, allow him to keep $500 for being a good banker and the winner takes home $9500

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

In analyzing Trump (always a difficult task) I feel like he is more of a King Henry VIII type of tyrant than a Hitler type- what I mean by this is that he cares much more about punishing his personal enemies than he does about any ideology or imposing whatever system on the rest of us. About that he is indifferent. 

If he becomes President again his redeeming factor is that he wants to be loved by everyone. He will quickly forgive people whatever transgressions if they profess their love for him. That means that if something is not working or goes wrong for the public he will quickly change his mind. That gives me hope that in the end things will be OK even during his Presidency no matter how much he screws up. 

Thank you for the hopeful silver linings, but… You might want to recall what happened to England under H8. The husks of edifices burned & looted still litter the landscape. Not to mention civil war & a period of dictatorship followed.

[OldMaid 2,130]

7 minutes ago, BiffTannen said:

You willing to put money on that?  Edjr is a great banker. We both send him $5000, allow him to keep $500 for being a good banker and the winner takes home $9500

Yeah, you seem like a stand up guy.

[BiffTannen 953]

2 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Yeah, you seem like a stand up guy.

I will Venmo the money to edjr right now like I have in the past. Do you want to bet or wish the cackling cuuunt wins?

[OldMaid 2,130]

1 minute ago, BiffTannen said:

I will Venmo the money to edjr right now like I have in the past. Do you want to bet or wish the cackling cuuunt wins?

I have a hunch you won’t be around here much longer.

[BiffTannen 953]

Just now, OldMaid said:

I have a hunch you won’t be around here much longer.

Tell me you’re poor and afraid to bet without telling us all you’re such. Sit down, ginger 

[OldMaid 2,130]

1 minute ago, BiffTannen said:

Tell me you’re poor and afraid to bet without telling us all you’re such. Sit down, ginger 

 Do you think that actually works on anyone?  

I’m done here.

[BiffTannen 953]

1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

 Do you think that actually works on anyone?  

I’m done here.

$5000 bet is on the table. Let me know if you get finished with your kitchen chores and want a place at the table 

[Horseman 2,453]

56 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Tim, this is a terrific well written piece, but I’d move this to no. 1. His comments have become more intense, including today. This is the guy Washington warned us against and shielded us against. It’s a full on alert.

Jesus. Take your dress off Sally.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,099]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Jesus. Take your dress off Sally.  

Funny how the world never ended the first time Trump was in office but these "sky is falling" types think he's going to end it this time. 

Have they never heard of the story of The Liberal Beta Cuck Who Cried Wolf?

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Take your dress off Sally. 

Trump appears in a national program making out with Rudy Giuliani in a dress yet you support him. Go on.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,099]

11 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump appears in a national program making out with Rudy Giuliani in a dress yet you support him. Go on.

Huh?      

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

13 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Funny how the world never ended the first time Trump was in office

Epidemic, oil was negative price per barrel, wild inflation, spiked unemployment, violent riot opposing transfer of administration, multiple turnover in cabinet, VP targeted for assassination. World didn’t end but it was a hell of a start.

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Huh? 

You have no idea what I’m talking about, really.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,099]

3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Epidemic, oil was negative price per barrel, wild inflation, spiked unemployment, violent riot opposing transfer of administration, multiple turnover in cabinet, VP targeted for assassination. World didn’t end but it was a hell of a start.

what happened to you?  I don't remember you being so far off the rails on the other board.  You've turned into a TDS afflicted lunatic with a penchant for revisionist history.