Get ready for the October Surprise

[thegeneral 2,905]

17 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

About 18 months before the 2012 election 

He released it in June 2008. All the wackos couldn’t get over it and were obsessed with the long form.

A certain prominent dummy continued to think it was all made up until like 2016

[SaintsInDome2006 379]

So… tonight a senior Trump campaign advisor (Lanza) said on CNN tonight that a very damaging story is emerging in the next couple days & then another after that.

First of all again absolutely nothing will dissuade a Trump follower. He could be seen en flagrante with Hillary Clinton, Epstein, Ivanka & Xi & it would not phase them. Secondly I’m starting to wonder if the October Surprise is going to be a salacious story that fits the bill of an October surprise but which will be some sort of sort of super reverse gotcha on whoever scoops it.

[Horseman 2,361]

6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

So… tonight a senior Trump campaign advisor (Lanza) said on CNN tonight that a very damaging story is emerging in the next couple days & then another after that.

First of all again absolutely nothing will dissuade a Trump follower. He could be seen en flagrante with Hillary Clinton, Epstein, Ivanka & Xi & it would not phase them. Secondly I’m starting to wonder if the October Surprise is going to be a salacious story that fits the bill of an October surprise but which will be some sort of sort of super reverse gotcha on whoever scoops it.

Super reverse gotcha!

Deep thoughts from someone suffering from TDS.

[SaintsInDome2006 379]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

TDS

Yep, a disease shared with some of the best & the brightest in the Trump administration. Generals, chiefs of staff, AGs, Vice Presidents… pretty good deranged company.

[Horseman 2,361]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Yep, a disease shared with sone of the best & the brightest in the Trump administration. Generals, chiefs of staff, AGs, Vice Presidents… pretty good deranged company.

You actually typed out "super reverse gotcha".  

Let that marinate for a minute then seek professional help.  

[SaintsInDome2006 379]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You actually typed out "super reverse gotcha".  

Let that marinate for a minute then seek professional help.  

Ha ok. Poor humor is my forte. Have a good evening, thanks for the responses.

[Horseman 2,361]

4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ha ok. Poor humor is my forte. Have a good evening, thanks for the responses.

Right. Denial. It was just a joke!

Get a life dude.  

[SaintsInDome2006 379]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Right. Denial. It was just a joke!

Get a life dude.  

I do think there is something to the derangement piece though, just like there is to orange man bad. And it’s not really a defense of Maga but it’s kind of understandable almost rational - given this subject, about how no level of insane claim, real or false, is persuasive to the followers - but once someone thinks the political world is insane well yeah I guess then the insane seems like the perfect answer. But I’m guessing that wasn’t the derangement you’re referring to.

[Horseman 2,361]

25 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I do think there is something to the derangement piece though, just like there is to orange man bad. And it’s not really a defense of Maga but it’s kind of understandable almost rational - given this subject, about how no level of insane claim, real or false, is persuasive to the followers - but once someone thinks the political world is insane well yeah I guess then the insane seems like the perfect answer. But I’m guessing that wasn’t the derangement you’re referring to.

 

49 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Deep thoughts from someone suffering from TDS.

 

[TimHauck 2,615]

3 hours ago, Horseman said:

You actually typed out "super reverse gotcha".  

Let that marinate for a minute then seek professional help.  

Rich coming from the guy who on many occasions has typed out “LESSONS FOR LIFE LOSERS”

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Rich coming from the guy who on many occasions has typed out “LESSONS FOR LIFE LOSERS”

Not to mention a guy who types that and posts under multiple screen names here so he can have different "personalities"

 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,701]

6 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

So… tonight a senior Trump campaign advisor (Lanza) said on CNN tonight that a very damaging story is emerging in the next couple days & then another after that.

First of all again absolutely nothing will dissuade a Trump follower. He could be seen en flagrante with Hillary Clinton, Epstein, Ivanka & Xi & it would not phase them. Secondly I’m starting to wonder if the October Surprise is going to be a salacious story that fits the bill of an October surprise but which will be some sort of sort of super reverse gotcha on whoever scoops it.

They have had almost a decade to dig up dirt and have whiffed on so many blatant falsehoods.  Nobody is going to buy some magical story that comes up a week before the election.  

[jonmx 2,424]

6 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I do think there is something to the derangement piece though, just like there is to orange man bad. And it’s not really a defense of Maga but it’s kind of understandable almost rational - given this subject, about how no level of insane claim, real or false, is persuasive to the followers - but once someone thinks the political world is insane well yeah I guess then the insane seems like the perfect answer. But I’m guessing that wasn’t the derangement you’re referring to.

The truth is it is you who are in denial and have been brainwashed into never accepting the reality of the deep state which is rooted in the secrecy and the unchecked enormous power of the executive branch agencies.  These agencies have systematically taken control of most all forms of media and our educational institutions, gave away our money creation to a privately owned corporation, used extreme circumstances to expand their authority to spy on and raid the homes of private citizens, created the legal authority to use our army on citizens, have taken control of our medicines and food we consume, are working to expand their authority on the energy we consume,  have assassinated dozens of leaders and have even pushed us into numerous useless wars.   

For the most part the person we elect president is overwhelmed by the enormous power of the executive branch and does not even understand how it is run.  Who we get to pick from is controller by these institutions.  Presidents are also hindered in their power by deep state created scandals like Watergate, iran-contra, Russian-gate to keep them under control so they do not interfere with the system.  The real power is not who we elect, but rests mostly in the Alliance between these executive agencies, institutions and mega corporations.  

For decades most people understood there seemed like there was no real difference between the two parties.   And they were correct, they were both part of the corrupt establishment taking away our freedoms and concentrating power inside the executive branch.  It has only been quite recently people are waking up to the mechanisms and levels of this gross corruption.  And this is what Trump has tapped into and is only now really grasping for himself 

We are in a war between a government controlled this deep state versus returning to a Constitutional government where people's freedoms are respected and government power (especially federal) is limited.  

I don't give a crap about meaningless deep state planted stories about Trump saying some stupid crap.   That is not even remotely a concern of freedom loving Americans.  We want a free independant media, we want free speech, we want our privacy protected, we want an honest money system, we want to stop these meaningless wars, we want the right to defend ourselves, we want laws equally applied, and we want our government accountable to us.  

So go ahead and stay ignorant and vote for the most clueless idiot puppet ever to run for president.  It is not the Maga folks who are clueless to reality.  The real threat to our freedoms is not Trump, it is the fascist-like political establishment which has already taken away most of our freedoms through manipulation of the masses into letting it happen.  

[Fnord 2,051]

2 hours ago, jonmx said:

 For the most part the person we elect president is overwhelmed by the enormous power of the executive branch and does not even understand how it is run. 

Presidents are also hindered in their power by deep state created scandals like Watergate, iran-contra, Russian-gate to keep them under control so they do not interfere with the system.  The real power is not who we elect, but rests mostly in the Alliance between these executive agencies, institutions and mega corporations.  

 It has only been quite recently people are waking up to the mechanisms and levels of this gross corruption.  And this is what Trump has tapped into and is only now really grasping for himself 

We are in a war between a government controlled this deep state versus returning to a Constitutional government where people's freedoms are respected and government power (especially federal) is limited.  

 The real threat to our freedoms is not Trump, it is the fascist-like political establishment which has already taken away most of our freedoms through manipulation of the masses into letting it happen.  

So now Watergate and Iran-Contra were deep state hoaxes? JFC.

The MAGA solution to grossly heightened executive power is to elect a guy that wants to INCREASE the power of the Chief Executive and remove the independence of the Federal Reserve, DOJ, FBI, etc. The guy who prizes loyalty above all other qualifications and has already shown he is willing to abuse executive power.

There is no reality in which this is not completely fuking insane.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,931]

Watergate was shady. Practically everyone involved in the break in were CIA. 

[jonmx 2,424]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Watergate was shady. Practically everyone involved in the break in were CIA. 

As was Iran-contra.  Which was really just normal deep state activities which is very minor compared to the crap they were pulling in the 60's and 70's.  They just pinned it on Reagan who was technically in charge but in reality would have no clue on the low-level crap individual CIA cells were up to.  

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

As was Iran-contra.  Which was really just normal deep state activities which is very minor compared to the crap they were pulling in the 60's and 70's.  They just pinned it on Reagan who was technically in charge but in reality would have no clue on the low-level crap individual CIA cells were up to.  

I think there could be more to the story on this. I have a suspicion that there were pre-election communications between the Reagan team and Iran......and I think there was potentially some more than unseemly things going on there.

[jonmx 2,424]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I think there could be more to the story on this. I have a suspicion that there were pre-election communications between the Reagan team and Iran......and I think there was potentially some more than unseemly things going on there.

 

Reagan was pretty clueless on the corruption inside the beltway.  Reagan had a very idealistic view of America.  He had a lot of corrupt deep state types around him who probably have had their hands in it.  But Reagan himself, very unlikely.  

[SaintsInDome2006 379]

I’m not sure ‘this is just another Watergate & Iran-Contra’ is the gotchya you might think. Especially as for Reagan & Nixon they were singular administrative disasters while Trump has had so many (a dozen?) It’s practically a management model.

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

Reagan was pretty clueless on the corruption inside the beltway.  Reagan had a very idealistic view of America.  He had a lot of corrupt deep state types around him who probably have had their hands in it.  But Reagan himself, very unlikely.  

Perhaps.  I mean, there is no direct "proof" but I submit there are some circumstantial factors that suggest it could be true.

[Fnord 2,051]

44 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think there could be more to the story on this. I have a suspicion that there were pre-election communications between the Reagan team and Iran......and I think there was potentially some more than unseemly things going on there.

I was pretty young when this was happening, but isn't the bolded pretty much established fact at this point?

[Fnord 2,051]

39 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

Reagan was pretty clueless on the corruption inside the beltway.  Reagan had a very idealistic view of America.  He had a lot of corrupt deep state types around him who probably have had their hands in it.  But Reagan himself, very unlikely.  

He was also a fuking vegetable for the majority of his second term.

[jonmx 2,424]

17 minutes ago, Fnord said:

He was also a fuking vegetable for the majority of his second term.

He could get out and give a much stronger and forceful speech than Biden can.  He was definitely having moments late in his last term, but still more capable than what we currently have in office.  

[RLLD 4,143]

17 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I was pretty young when this was happening, but isn't the bolded pretty much established fact at this point?

I think it might depend on your individual perceptions.

Much of what is known about the events suggest that this could be true, and I believe that there is enough for a reasonable person to conclude that something nefarious transpired.

But then again, I use this same logic toward Biden and what appears to be ample evidence of his selling favors to foreign nations from his position of power, and I am rather consistently challenged on this.

So is my logic toward Reagan and Biden true, or must we have more evidence or even a conviction before we can believe that something happened? 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

Contra was a great video game.

[Fnord 2,051]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

I think it might depend on your individual perceptions.

Much of what is known about the events suggest that this could be true, and I believe that there is enough for a reasonable person to conclude that something nefarious transpired.

But then again, I use this same logic toward Biden and what appears to be ample evidence of his selling favors to foreign nations from his position of power, and I am rather consistently challenged on this.

So is my logic toward Reagan and Biden true, or must we have more evidence or even a conviction before we can believe that something happened? 

Ultimately it doesn't matter. Reagan testified and gave a bunch of "I don't recall" sort of answers IIRC. If Trump wins, no doubt he will sic the DOJ on Biden, and we can find out whether Joe was dirty or not. I do not believe he was, but if enough evidence exists to convict, then by all means go for it.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Ultimately it doesn't matter. Reagan testified and gave a bunch of "I don't recall" sort of answers IIRC. If Trump wins, no doubt he will sic the DOJ on Biden, and we can find out whether Joe was dirty or not. I do not believe he was, but if enough evidence exists to convict, then by all means go for it.

Maybe. I think the Iran instance with Reagan is a problem, and I have no idea what Biden sold to our enemies abroad, which could come back to us.

Still, the person who responded to me sorta questioned why I was not convinced with regard to Reagan, pointing to available evidence. I and did concede that there is enough evidence to suggest Reagan did something wrong, which is why I think he likely did.  I then pointed to my stance with regard to Biden, since the two have similarities.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,931]

38 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Ultimately it doesn't matter. Reagan testified and gave a bunch of "I don't recall" sort of answers IIRC. If Trump wins, no doubt he will sic the DOJ on Biden, and we can find out whether Joe was dirty or not. I do not believe he was, but if enough evidence exists to convict, then by all means go for it.

HITLER! Doesn’t wait for the DOJ to go after his enemies. Pick up the pace man. 

[SaintsInDome2006 379]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

HITLER! Doesn’t wait for the DOJ to go after his enemies. Pick up the pace man. 

Yes, when out of power Actual Hitler went to jail. When in power he went after his enemies. See it's that second part...

[Hardcore troubadour 14,931]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Yes, when out of power Actual Hitler went to jail. When in power he went after his enemies. See it's that second part...

You know, Trump was already president once. Ya dope. 

[SaintsInDome2006 379]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

You know, Trump was already president once. Ya dope. 

I'm aware, and it's the people who restrained him who are running around waving their arms telling people what a danger is if he gets back in unrestrained. That's the point.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,931]

3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I'm aware, and it's the people who restrained him who are running around waving their arms telling people what a danger is if he gets back in unrestrained. That's the point.

But he’s HITLER! The fuhrer doesn’t get restrained. Some fascist Trump was. 

[SaintsInDome2006 379]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

But he’s HITLER! The fuhrer doesn’t get restrained. Some fascist Trump was. 

He's not Hitler. Schmucks like The Donald didn't last long with that gang.

[avoiding injuries 1,510]

4 hours ago, jonmx said:

 

Reagan was pretty clueless on the corruption inside the beltway.  Reagan had a very idealistic view of America.  He had a lot of corrupt deep state types around him who probably have had their hands in it.  But Reagan himself, very unlikely.  

Sounds familiar 

[avoiding injuries 1,510]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Contra was a great video game.

Up up down down… you know the rest

[Fnord 2,051]

8 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Up up down down… you know the rest

Quickest way to identify a Gen-Xer. They can all tell you the rest, including the extra step for a second player.

[Fnord 2,051]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

But he’s HITLER! The fuhrer doesn’t get restrained. Some fascist Trump was. 

You're the only blowhard riding this train in the GC. But keep 'debating' SID6. I love it when you get slapped down like the insolent child you are. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,931]

8 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Quickest way to identify a Gen-Xer. They can all tell you the rest, including the extra step for a second player.

I can’t tell you. I played sports, girls and fighting. 

[Fnord 2,051]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I can’t tell you. I played sports, girls and fighting. 

You played girls, and you played fighting. What a cuck. 

Technically you might be genX, but you're a boomer at heart.

PS, I know a lot of dudes that managed to play sports, get girls, fight, and also played video games. Sorry Pong was too advanced for you.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,931]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You're the only blowhard riding this train in the GC. But keep 'debating' SID6. I love it when you get slapped down like the insolent child you are. 

Yeah, the leftards at the GC are too sophisticated for the HITLER! Stuff.  But your girl who you’re voting for can do it. What a clown