I’m willing to question the media now.

[Mark Davis 324]

8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This is interesting to note because it seems to be pointed directly at legacy or older media. However, the most preferred places to get news by Gen X and younger is places like TikTok, and Twitter which are also places- especially the former- where stuff is presented as snippets of interviews edited in a way to make things sound worse than what they actually were. And there are two times as much "pro-Trump" content as their way "pro-Biden or pro-Harris" content there. Additionally, look at the amount of people here who share YouTube videos as fact when it is someone blowing up a singular quote to rant on it for 10-15 minutes.

The biggest issue we have from a news source is we have allowed- in all forms and walks of media- for the line between opinion and news to blur to an insane point. Look at any of the 24 hour news channels. They are dominated from about 3pm on by personality driven opinion shows. Social media allows us to curate our timelines in such a way that we only see things that support our already held positions. This is all a problem because the general public isn't reaching out to learn opposing viewpoints, they are allowing the opposing viewpoints to be brought to them with a spin applied to it. 

There's no doubt that social media is just as bad.  Yes I was referring to the older MSM.  I'm old now myself at 50 so that's who I tend to think of.  Somewhere along the way though we've lost our ability as a whole to distinguish between partisan talk and hyperbole versus fact. 

I know a 30 year old girl who is posting on X now about how she's encouraging other women her age to not date anyone who could possibly vote for Trump.  She "almost" married one now is dating someone who voted for Harris.  She's teetering on the edge from some of her tweets and I legitimately feel bad for her.  She honestly believes that Trump is going to ban birth control.  This is a college educated person who I personally know to be highly intelligent.  I'm fine with people having whatever standards they want but my wife sometimes votes differently from me.  When I was dating, I never considered who someone voted for.  Now many people use that a a disqualifying factor.  To me it shows where we've moved as a society in our self segregation, silos, whatever the proper terminology would be.  Everyone on the other side is not some evil fascist or communist.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,015]

14 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This is interesting to note because it seems to be pointed directly at legacy or older media. However, the most preferred places to get news by Gen X and younger is places like TikTok, and Twitter which are also places- especially the former- where stuff is presented as snippets of interviews edited in a way to make things sound worse than what they actually were. And there are two times as much "pro-Trump" content as their way "pro-Biden or pro-Harris" content there. Additionally, look at the amount of people here who share YouTube videos as fact when it is someone blowing up a singular quote to rant on it for 10-15 minutes.

The biggest issue we have from a news source is we have allowed- in all forms and walks of media- for the line between opinion and news to blur to an insane point. Look at any of the 24 hour news channels. They are dominated from about 3pm on by personality driven opinion shows. Social media allows us to curate our timelines in such a way that we only see things that support our already held positions. This is all a problem because the general public isn't reaching out to learn opposing viewpoints, they are allowing the opposing viewpoints to be brought to them with a spin applied to it. 

Tiktok is lead by a far left democrat right now.

[Sean Mooney 1,853]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

y i

I think a further point worthy of inclusion is that many of the people you have correctly identified as opinionists.......refer to themselves, and consider themselves, ....  "journalists"   which they obviously are not.

And some actual journalists have allowed themselves to be a little corrupted by it.

I've never sat and watched a full program of any of it- be it Gutfeld, The Five, Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Anderson Cooper, Abby Phillips (I've seen clips online of these things)....but they are not news programs. They tell you a story and then spend time arguing about their opinions on it and at some point it just becomes a blur of nonsense being disguised as news. 

I mean I've seen clips of The Five and it is literally just PTI for the news- who the hell wants that?

[RLLD 4,126]

18 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I've never sat and watched a full program of any of it- be it Gutfeld, The Five, Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Anderson Cooper, Abby Phillips (I've seen clips online of these things)....but they are not news programs. They tell you a story and then spend time arguing about their opinions on it and at some point it just becomes a blur of nonsense being disguised as news. 

I mean I've seen clips of The Five and it is literally just PTI for the news- who the hell wants that?

Well, some of them DO make it clear they are just people with opinions, notably Gutfeld, the Five hell....even Hannity....and I cannot stand that guy....but at least THEY dont pretend.....when you drift over to CNN, they continue to play the role of journalists....but they really are not....

[Sean Mooney 1,853]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Well, some of them DO make it clear they are just people with opinions, notably Gutfeld, the Five hell....even Hannity....and I cannot stand that guy....but at least THEY dont pretend.....when you drift over to CNN, they continue to play the role of journalists....but they really are not....

The problem becomes they are selling that they are "News" but they are offering takes. It goes back to the idea that they might not see what they are but that is how people see them. They are the most watched news network by far and you have people like my wife's grandmother who almost literally watches FOX News from the time she gets up until the time she goes to bed. I'd assume the numbers are huge in people like her. And for her it's all news, not opinion. 

[RLLD 4,126]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The problem becomes they are selling that they are "News" but they are offering takes. It goes back to the idea that they might not see what they are but that is how people see them. They are the most watched news network by far and you have people like my wife's grandmother who almost literally watches FOX News from the time she gets up until the time she goes to bed. I'd assume the numbers are huge in people like her. And for her it's all news, not opinion. 

A salient point....

[Fnord 1,943]

12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Well, some of them DO make it clear they are just people with opinions, notably Gutfeld, the Five hell....even Hannity....and I cannot stand that guy....but at least THEY dont pretend.....when you drift over to CNN, they continue to play the role of journalists....but they really are not....

Meh, this is an overplayed hand. I did quite a bit of channel surfing the last few days. I do not watch cable news normally other than when there is a big breaking story. Between MSNBC, Fox News and CNN, the only ones even pretending to be news was CNN. They had a balanced panel, and they were being extremely critical of the Dems, deservedly so.

First time I've ever watched a moment of Gutfeld. People think he's funny? His guests were fuking retards.

[purdygood 317]

56 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

There's no doubt that social media is just as bad.  Yes I was referring to the older MSM.  I'm old now myself at 50 so that's who I tend to think of.  Somewhere along the way though we've lost our ability as a whole to distinguish between partisan talk and hyperbole versus fact. 

I know a 30 year old girl who is posting on X now about how she's encouraging other women her age to not date anyone who could possibly vote for Trump.  She "almost" married one now is dating someone who voted for Harris.  She's teetering on the edge from some of her tweets and I legitimately feel bad for her.  She honestly believes that Trump is going to ban birth control.  This is a college educated person who I personally know to be highly intelligent.  I'm fine with people having whatever standards they want but my wife sometimes votes differently from me.  When I was dating, I never considered who someone voted for.  Now many people use that a a disqualifying factor.  To me it shows where we've moved as a society in our self segregation, silos, whatever the proper terminology would be.  Everyone on the other side is not some evil fascist or communist.

Perhaps, she is saying in a non direct way.... "If the man you are dating, can't see that Donald Trump is someone (because he is a horrible person) (cheating on every wife he has ever had) can't be trusted, then I can't date you. Because I can't Trust your judgement or faithfulness either."

[Hardcore troubadour 14,715]

Purdytard says this knowing who Kamala is married to. lol.  Can’t help himself. 

[crackattack 520]

Just look how unbiased "journalists" reacted to Wash post and LA Times not endorsing Harris. The unbiased "journalists" threw hissy fits. 

The Liz Chaney firing squad lie. Lie after lie after lie. Glad you're finally seeing it.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,715]

When does the bloodbath start? 

[purdygood 317]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Purdytard says this knowing who Kamala is married to. lol.  Can’t help himself. 

When have I ever said on here I like Kamala?   I have only said they both suck.  Trump just sucks more.  I wish both parties gave us a better choice.  I know I have said multiple times I would vote for ANY Republican other than Trump over Biden.

[Fnord 1,943]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

When does the bloodbath start? 

Patience, Twatadour. I know you're really looking forward to it, but we have to swear in the turnip first. Pace yourself, you have four years to enjoy the spectacle.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,715]

6 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Patience, Twatadour. I know you're really looking forward to it, but we have to swear in the turnip first. Pace yourself, you have four years to enjoy the spectacle.

What will it look like? 

[Mark Davis 324]

47 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Perhaps, she is saying in a non direct way.... "If the man you are dating, can't see that Donald Trump is someone (because he is a horrible person) (cheating on every wife he has ever had) can't be trusted, then I can't date you. Because I can't Trust your judgement or faithfulness either."

Then I'd say anyone feeling this way is putting too much into why people vote the way they do.  Also, it's not lost in that statement the condescension that kind of mentality would take.  To think you're smarter somehow than everyone on the other side.  I tested out pretty well in every test I ever took, but I'd be foolish to think some who scored higher than me don't feel differently than I do. 

But sadly I think you're probably right in the meaning.  And it goes to the topic of media and their bias.  I watched an hour of MSNBC yesterday to try to understand some of it.  There was a whole lot of why people voted against their interest and they didn't know what was really good for them on one side, and racism on the other.  So the inference is, you're stupid or racist, it's just that simple.  And to be honest, it's what that type mentality would have to believe.  Don't get me wrong, I know plenty of Trump people who feel voting for Harris is dumb.  What I'm pointing out is that kind of mentality is dangerous and self defeating.  If you live in that headspace you are destined for failure, in relationships or career.  Well, unless you can get a job in an information bubble like MSNBC or wherever and then it might be a plus.

[Fnord 1,943]

26 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What will it look like? 

The bloodbath will probably look like blood. If you're color blind, maybe more like grayish blood. Just a guess, though.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,015]

Now that we have thoroughly established we can't trust the media, let's focus on 2 points.

There were plenty of us who know the truth and had a good idea of how it went down. We may disagree on some issues, but are Trump supporters really trash? There was a lot of ethnic diversity at his rallys. The liberal media and shows are pushing Trump voters as trash still. They want division.

Another point, look at Barack Oabama. His name literally was Barry Soetoro. The details around his upbringing are very vague, and he was probably not born in the US. Kamala has a vague upbringing as well. Probably not an African American by any standard. The left pushed these candidates with sketchy backgrounds, one who most likely wasn't born in the US. It's suspicious as hell.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,015]

Just wait until you realize how much they lied about Walz

[Engorgeous George 1,978]

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

Patience, Twatadour. I know you're really looking forward to it, but we have to swear in the turnip first. Pace yourself, you have four years to enjoy the spectacle.

I may have gone "yam".

[Fnord 1,943]

2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I may have gone "yam".

Ain't nothin sweet in that potato.

[Engorgeous George 1,978]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Ain't nothin sweet in that potato.

[TimHauck 2,513]

52 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Just wait until you realize how much they lied about Walz

Who lied about Walz?  Besides @F1erce and the “Black Insurrectionist,” of course

[purdygood 317]

2 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

Then I'd say anyone feeling this way is putting too much into why people vote the way they do.  Also, it's not lost in that statement the condescension that kind of mentality would take.  To think you're smarter somehow than everyone on the other side.  I tested out pretty well in every test I ever took, but I'd be foolish to think some who scored higher than me don't feel differently than I do. 

But sadly I think you're probably right in the meaning.  And it goes to the topic of media and their bias.  I watched an hour of MSNBC yesterday to try to understand some of it.  There was a whole lot of why people voted against their interest and they didn't know what was really good for them on one side, and racism on the other.  So the inference is, you're stupid or racist, it's just that simple.  And to be honest, it's what that type mentality would have to believe.  Don't get me wrong, I know plenty of Trump people who feel voting for Harris is dumb.  What I'm pointing out is that kind of mentality is dangerous and self defeating.  If you live in that headspace you are destined for failure, in relationships or career.  Well, unless you can get a job in an information bubble like MSNBC or wherever and then it might be a plus.

Same. Graduated Summa Laude from a 4 year University in 2005.  I guess that makes me old.    The key word I always see is "feel".  I will never understand people who make arguments or vote based on "feels". 

 

 

The filter took out the word for male semen? Can I say that? hahahahaha

[iam90sbaby 2,376]

Why do you engage with this retard seriously? He isn't genuine, it's all word vomit. He just wants to talk and babble.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,015]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Who lied about Walz?  Besides @F1erce and the “Black Insurrectionist,” of course

The media. Who do you think.

[TimHauck 2,513]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

The media. Who do you think.

What did they lie about in regards to him?

[Frozenbeernuts 2,015]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What did they lie about in regards to him?

About his coaching. They never mentioned how his first school got rid of him because of some issues. The trips to China.

[TimHauck 2,513]

1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

About his coaching. They never mentioned how his first school got rid of him because of some issues. The trips to China.

lol that the guy spreading false rumors about Walz raping someone is concerned that he may have lied about his high school assistant coaching resume 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,015]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

lol that the guy spreading false rumors about Walz raping someone is concerned that he may have lied about his high school assistant coaching resume 

It's about the media. I'm not the media. That story did end up being bogus. A few accounts that are normally very accurate even thought of it as legit. The media purposely pushes false stories. You don't understand the difference here?

[jbycho 434]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

lol that the guy spreading false rumors about Walz raping someone is concerned that he may have lied about his high school assistant coaching resume 

No false rumors.

[TimHauck 2,513]

5 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

It's about the media. I'm not the media. That story did end up being bogus. A few accounts that are normally very accurate even thought of it as legit. The media purposely pushes false stories. You don't understand the difference here?

I don’t really read the MSM.  Can you provide a link to an article where they lied about Walz’s coaching?

[TimHauck 2,513]

2 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

About his coaching. They never mentioned how his first school got rid of him because of some issues. The trips to China.

Also, not saying something isn’t a lie…

[thegeneral 2,785]

11 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

It's about the media. I'm not the media. That story did end up being bogus. A few accounts that are normally very accurate even thought of it as legit. The media purposely pushes false stories. You don't understand the difference here?

 

11 minutes ago, jbycho said:

No false rumors.

You two should talk. Peefoam still believes the dude on Twitter.

[jbycho 434]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

 

You two should talk. Peefoam still believes the dude on Twitter.

Pee fetish guy has thoughts too it seems. 

[thegeneral 2,785]

Just now, jbycho said:

Pee fetish guy has thoughts too it seems. 

Tell us about Walz and the student. Let’s hear it!

[jbycho 434]

16 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Tell us about Walz and the student. Let’s hear it!

You don't get it. No on cares that you are gay. That has been socially acceptable in the US for many years now.  But seriously, you sharing your pee fetish over and over again is beyond unacceptable. 

You keep sticking up for pedos and feel great about that as thoughts of urine is turning you on, with you focusing on that constantly, and I'll just move past you and your troubles in life. Go bother someone else. 

Someone should report your ass on this site. I mean, isn't that the liberal Democrat way? 

[thegeneral 2,785]

4 minutes ago, jbycho said:

You don't get it. No on cares that you are gay. That has been socially acceptable in the US for many years now.  But seriously, you sharing your pee fetish over and over again is beyond unacceptable. 

You keep sticking up for pedos and feel great about that as thoughts of urine is turning you on, with you focusing on that constantly, and I'll just move past you and your troubles in life. Go bother someone else. 

Someone should report your ass on this site. I mean, isn't that the liberal Democrat way? 

Look Peefoam. You want to post under your alternate alias it’s fine, just odd. Is the other one suspended at the moment or something?

Back to the question tho…tell us about Walz and the student. Where did that end up at again? Wasn’t there a lawyer and statements coming?

[jbycho 434]

13 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Look Peefoam. 

 

[jbycho 434]

50 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

 

You two should talk. Peefoam still believes the dude on Twitter.

 

[purdygood 317]

Tim.  Is your real life name Tim Schochet?  I've always wondered.   Or do you run a business that sells Schochet's (whatever those are) (i hear it at Sko Shays in my head in a slightly British accent) (love you as a poster) (hugs) (but i wanna know the back story behind the name)