TimHauck 2,599 Posted November 8, 2024 22 minutes ago, RLLD said: Oops....you appear to have accidentally missed this... hope this helps, I am sure you didnt mean to not include it No, I think you are on to something here.....rhetoric, as with Harris saying she would not trust the vaccine.....would never compel people to not take the vaccine, right? Because rhetoric does not do that.....or.....does it? That came later. We were not taking about rhetoric originally, you moved the goalposts to start talking about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted November 8, 2024 12 minutes ago, TimHauck said: That came later. We were not taking about rhetoric originally, you moved the goalposts to start talking about that. Oh, well I am talking about rhetoric now, if you want to go back to a prior conversation I can do so. What is it you want me to know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,599 Posted November 8, 2024 12 minutes ago, RLLD said: Oh, well I am talking about rhetoric now, if you want to go back to a prior conversation I can do so. What is it you want me to know? I wanted to know whether you thought Operation Warp Speed was a good idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,118 Posted November 8, 2024 15 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: The vaccinated are 5x more likely to die. Hmm I wonder who was warning of this before any liberal had a clue about the vaccine. Those name of those people rhyme with Drump happorters https://x.com/CartlandDavid/status/1854509133254287524?s=19 I didn’t watch this video, but my first thought was that immunocompromised people would be far more likely to take the vaccine in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,118 Posted November 8, 2024 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: I wanted to know whether you thought Operation Warp Speed was a good idea Good luck ever getting a direct answer to this simple question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted November 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I wanted to know whether you thought Operation Warp Speed was a good idea Interesting question.... I think there were some positive things I would point to..... 1) I liked the concurrent development process, I felt as though this approach compressed the timeline without sacrificing quality..... 2) I was less happy with the funding arrangement, but I do get why the government threw all that money at it. 3) I think the public/private collaboration helped shorten the time line, leaving too much to government would have risked high failure. But I am less happy with the intrusion of the private into the government hallways. 4) Outreach was sufficient I, setting aside the initial rhetoric to damage Trump, eventually politics was set aside and Democrats instead leaned in to the benefit to the public over politics. 5) I think the logistics was rather well done, and this includes overcoming apprehension about trusting the government when it comes to these medical actions....there is after all history there 6) The FDA fast tracked it, but then again the FDA is not really an agency with much credibility anymore, so that might fall into the "who cares" realm Trump did a decent job in leveraging the likes of Azar, Perna and others......not sure how much of that collaboration is really "Trump" and how much was just medical minds doing what they do.... Does this answer your question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted November 8, 2024 18 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: The vaccinated are 5x more likely to die. Hmm I wonder who was warning of this before any liberal had a clue about the vaccine. Those name of those people rhyme with Drump happorters https://x.com/CartlandDavid/status/1854509133254287524?s=19 Well, OK, did you notice they did not give any other statistical information outside of that? And no link provided outside of the tweet. What were the exact mortality numbers of those who are vaccinated and those that weren't? 5 died who were vaccinated and 1 died who wasn't? 50 died who were vaccinated and 10 died who weren't? 500 died who were vaccinated and 100 died who weren't? 5000 died who were vaccinated and 1000 died who weren't? Also was the cause of death the same for all those who were vaccinatted? Was the age and the health of those vaccinated versus those unvaccinated taken into account? Did all those who died die of the same thing? My point is the death ratio doesn't mean that much taken in isolation. We need to be given more information as to how these doctors came to their conclusions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,599 Posted November 8, 2024 2 hours ago, RLLD said: Interesting question.... I think there were some positive things I would point to..... 1) I liked the concurrent development process, I felt as though this approach compressed the timeline without sacrificing quality..... 2) I was less happy with the funding arrangement, but I do get why the government threw all that money at it. 3) I think the public/private collaboration helped shorten the time line, leaving too much to government would have risked high failure. But I am less happy with the intrusion of the private into the government hallways. 4) Outreach was sufficient I, setting aside the initial rhetoric to damage Trump, eventually politics was set aside and Democrats instead leaned in to the benefit to the public over politics. 5) I think the logistics was rather well done, and this includes overcoming apprehension about trusting the government when it comes to these medical actions....there is after all history there 6) The FDA fast tracked it, but then again the FDA is not really an agency with much credibility anymore, so that might fall into the "who cares" realm Trump did a decent job in leveraging the likes of Azar, Perna and others......not sure how much of that collaboration is really "Trump" and how much was just medical minds doing what they do.... Does this answer your question? Sort of, this sounds like more of a yes than a no, which surprises me considering your initial post about policy being a “money laundering scheme” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted November 8, 2024 Only the dumbest people on earth got the jab 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted November 8, 2024 If you got vaccinated Sheep gonna sheep 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,286 Posted November 8, 2024 How is this source in any way believable? We don't even speak Japanese for starters. Tim said it's about some other vaccine anyway. I don't take information from X posted here as fact. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted November 8, 2024 So get it or don’t. Who the fock cares 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted November 9, 2024 18 hours ago, weepaws said: Mmm interesting that trump gets elected, and now more deaths to people. Shame. Romans 13:7. Render therefore to all their dues, tribute to whom tribute is due, custom to whom custom, Fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor. Indeed Amen Thanks How do we mute this tool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,112 Posted November 9, 2024 5 hours ago, TimHauck said: I wanted to know whether you thought Operation Warp Speed was a good idea No, it wasn't. I have said before that I thought it was terrible. I have seen some theories on why it was necessary, but there is no hard evidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 857 Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/7/2024 at 10:52 PM, Hawkeye21 said: I still believe that Covid was serious, but only for certain demographics. I had a very close friend die from it. I also believe it was only really serious for certain people, like himself. He was very overweight and it led to a heart attack. For most people it was like the flu or cold. Genuinely sorry to hear you lost a close friend, but I have to ask. Did he get the jab(s) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,599 Posted November 9, 2024 12 hours ago, Gepetto said: How is this source in any way believable? We don't even speak Japanese for starters. Tim said it's about some other vaccine anyway. I don't take information from X posted here as fact. This appears to be the source of the video https://www.aussie17.com/p/japans-emergency-press-conference The meeting seems to be “about” another vaccine but the numbers they’re claiming may be supposedly about the old vaccines, but I still can’t find what data they’re citing. At one point they mention “Hamamatsu city” and when searching that all I can find is this poorly written thing that doesn’t even mention death rates: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1567576923001467?via%3Dihub Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted November 9, 2024 Is Joe Biden still president? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,380 Posted November 9, 2024 7 hours ago, easilyscan said: Genuinely sorry to hear you lost a close friend, but I have to ask. Did he get the jab(s) He died before the vaccine came out. He was very overweight which was the biggest factor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted November 9, 2024 15 hours ago, IGotWorms said: So get it or don’t. Who the fock cares Liberals did. Remember how they shamed and bullied the unvaccinated? Don't act like you forgot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 559 Posted November 9, 2024 14 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: How do we mute this tool Tell him if he doesn't shut up. On his judgement day. God is gonna sodamize him with a rusty tire iron. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted November 9, 2024 1 minute ago, Kopy said: Tell him if he doesn't shut up. On his judgement day. God is gonna sodamize him with a rusty tire iron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,557 Posted November 10, 2024 On 11/8/2024 at 3:11 PM, IGotWorms said: So get it or don’t. Who the fock cares Great suggestion. Too bad your team mandated it. My body, their choice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted November 10, 2024 29 minutes ago, nobody said: Great suggestion. Too bad your team mandated it. My body, their choice! It's amazing, they still don't get it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted November 11, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 5:42 PM, nobody said: Great suggestion. Too bad your team mandated it. My body, their choice! Who the fock mandated anything? And four focking years ago whatever it is even you’re even still whining about. Move the fock on dude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,557 Posted November 11, 2024 Your team mandated it. Where you been, bro? And yes, we all know you'd prefer we forget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,112 Posted November 12, 2024 "You weren't forced to take anything" Facci says hold my beer https://x.com/toobaffled/status/1855955934687711633?s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites