The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 23, 2024 So Trump has moved on from calling for the annexation of Canada to now demanding Panama gives us their canal. How can anyone defend this ass hole? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 302 Posted December 23, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: So Trump has moved on from calling for the annexation of Canada to now demanding Panama gives us their canal. How can anyone defend this ass hole? We have 38 true-American Republican folks in Congress whom I'm hopeful will keep Clownzo in check for the next embarrassing four years. Jan. 20 can't come soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,209 Posted December 23, 2024 1 hour ago, Voltaire said: Pelosi had talent for that sort of thing. I don't know that Biden accomplished anything more than getting his name listed as president #46. As for Trump, keeping the legislative wheel oiled is the challenge we'll be having to watch for. A lot of the Paul Ryan / Mitt Romney /Dumbya / Cheney uniparty globalists have been routed but there are still plenty around. I think that another big fault line is that Trump didn't seem to care very much about the national debt during his first administration but there are enough in the party that do to cause him problems. The GOP will need damn near every vote. I agree Pelosi was very good at rounding up the House. Getting the Senate was another story, lots of big legislative W’s in past 4 years for the Dems. What ever is the case if Trump can’t figure out a way to outsmart the MTG types in Congress well….yikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted December 23, 2024 I have no concerns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,539 Posted December 23, 2024 3 hours ago, Death said: We have 38 true-American Republican folks in Congress whom I'm hopeful will keep Clownzo in check for the next embarrassing four years. You have no clue why those people voted the way they did, do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 302 Posted December 23, 2024 25 minutes ago, Strike said: You have no clue why those people voted the way they did, do you? Um, they opposed the increase on debt ceiling. You have another clue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 23, 2024 9 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: So Trump has moved on from calling for the annexation of Canada to now demanding Panama gives us their canal. How can anyone defend this ass hole? I forgot Greenland. Now he wants Greenland too. Looks like he learned from Putin. No wars though. We'll just tariff everyone and they'll do whatever we tell them. What could possibly go wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,021 Posted December 23, 2024 Just now, The Phantom's Phantom said: I forgot Greenland. Now he wants Greenland too. Looks like he learned from Putin. No wars though. We'll just tariff everyone and they'll do whatever we tell them. What could possibly go wrong? Gutterboy is as wrecked as pimpledoosh. TDS is working it's magic on these libtards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,988 Posted December 23, 2024 9 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: How can anyone defend this ass hole? . Voted for DEI Kamala Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 23, 2024 6 hours ago, Death said: Um, they opposed the increase on debt ceiling. You have another clue? Strike has shown that he doesn't understand how Congress works. He thinks trump has nothing to with any of this because he's not president. He also thinks Elon is just a regular guy like you or me. He's very ignorant and naive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 26, 2024 The excuses for this one should be interesting... Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1872266849913569391 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,413 Posted December 26, 2024 26 minutes ago, Reality said: The excuses for this one should be interesting... Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1872266849913569391 Why would anyone have to make excuses for an opinion piece written by a couple of lawyers? Obviously Trump is going to take office. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Reality said: The excuses for this one should be interesting... Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1872266849913569391 I keep telling you idiots this but you can’t put stock in everything you read on Twitter or the internet. Anyone can post/write anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted December 26, 2024 5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I keep telling you idiots this but you can’t put stock in everything you read on Twitter or the internet. Anyone can post/write anything This is exactly why we need the government to tell us what we can say online. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,209 Posted December 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Reality said: The excuses for this one should be interesting... Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1872266849913569391 It’s a clickbait opinion piece. Congrats you clicked on it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 26, 2024 About what I figured. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,209 Posted December 26, 2024 18 minutes ago, Reality said: About what I figured. You see when someone in government, say the losing President were to go on about this for months, then perhaps people should care. That was probably different though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,264 Posted February 4 This will not end well. EPA demotes career employees overseeing science, enforcement, and more Quote The Environmental Protection Agency plans to demote career employees who oversee scientific research, the enforcement of pollution laws, hazardous waste cleanup and the agency’s human resources department and replace them with political appointees, according to two people familiar with the approach. The move would give Trump administration loyalists more influence over aspects of the agency that were traditionally led by nonpartisan experts who have served across Republican and Democratic administrations. It would also make it easier for the Trump administration to bypass Congress. While those formally overseeing sections of the E.P.A. must be confirmed by the Senate, the new appointees would be able to assume the role of acting department heads, circumventing the need for congressional approval. “As is common practice and has become more prevalent across administrations, E.P.A. updated its organizational structure to match other federal agencies,” Molly Vaseliou, a spokeswoman for the E.P.A., said in a statement. The E.P.A. is emerging as a case study in the lessons that Mr. Trump has learned from his first term in office, when career staff members often thwarted his administration’s efforts to sideline scientists and repeal air and water protections. Mr. Trump’s allies promised that in a second term they would be more prepared to swiftly begin dismantling the E.P.A., the agency that played a central role in the Biden administration’s strategy to combat climate change. Mr. Trump has stocked the agency with political appointees who have worked as lawyers and lobbyists for the oil and chemical industries. They include David Fotouhi, the nominee for deputy administrator, a lawyer who recently challenged a ban on asbestos; Aaron Szabo, a lobbyist for both the oil and chemical industries who is expected to be the top air pollution regulator; and Nancy Beck, a longtime chemical industry lobbyist, who is serving as a senior E.P.A. adviser on chemical safety and pollution. At the same time, there have been aggressive moves to deplete the E.P.A. work force. In recent days, the Trump administration warned more than 1,100 agency employees who had been hired within the past year that they could be “immediately” terminated at any time. The change to the senior management ranks affects four key areas of the E.P.A. They are the Office of Research and Development, the agency’s scientific research arm; the Office of Enforcement and Compliance, which is responsible for enforcing the country’s environmental laws; the Office of Land and Emergency Management, which oversees cleanups at some of the nation’s most contaminated lands and responds to environmental emergencies; and the Office of Mission Support, which manages human resources but also grants and contracts. Until the Trump administration, career employees held the second-in-command positions of “principal deputy assistant administrator.” Those career staff members automatically became the acting heads of their divisions in the absence of a Senate-confirmed assistant administrator to lead it. Last week the people serving in those roles were informed by Trump officials that their job titles would be changed, according to the two people familiar with the decision, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk about personnel matters. The employees were told that their salaries and benefits would not change but that they would be moved to the position of “deputy assistant administrator,” which is effectively a demotion, the people said. The change is expected to take effect this week. So far, no political appointees have been named as replacements. Many of the emerging changes at the E.P.A. were mapped out in Project 2025, a conservative policy playbook that Mr. Trump has said he had not read. It calls for putting in place “reform-minded” political appointees to lead virtually all parts of the agency, including the scientific and enforcement functions. It is not without precedent to install political appointees in roles where they can carry out the president’s agenda without Senate approval. During the Biden administration, Joseph Goffman served as the principal deputy assistant administrator of the E.P.A. office overseeing air pollution. He held that job for three years, helping to write strict limits on greenhouse gas emissions from power plants and automobiles. He was finally confirmed by the Senate in January 2024. Critics said the difference was that while E.P.A.’s air and water offices manage the bulk of federal regulation and are likely to reflect the president’s priorities, the moves from the Trump administration inject partisanship in segments of the agency that had been neutral. David Uhlmann, who led E.P.A. enforcement under the Biden administration, said of the moves that “when viewed alongside everything else taking place, they are yet another unfortunate attack on public servants who have dedicated their careers to public health and environmental protection.” So, understanding that Trump has little taste for examining potential unintended consequences of his actions, what happens the next time a train derails and spills toxic chemicals everywhere? Or we drill baby drill ourselves into a huge oil spill? Or 3M pollutes more groundwater? One of these fukkers is trying to reverse the ban on ASBESTOS, FFS. Regardless of whether you "believe" in humans causing global warming, don't we all need clean air and water? MAGA includes a great many outdoors enthusiasts that care deeply about environmental preservation. How TF can you support this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 209 Posted February 4 12 minutes ago, Fnord said: This will not end well. EPA demotes career employees overseeing science, enforcement, and more So, understanding that Trump has little taste for examining potential unintended consequences of his actions, what happens the next time a train derails and spills toxic chemicals everywhere? Or we drill baby drill ourselves into a huge oil spill? Or 3M pollutes more groundwater? One of these fukkers is trying to reverse the ban on ASBESTOS, FFS. Regardless of whether you "believe" in humans causing global warming, don't we all need clean air and water? MAGA includes a great many outdoors enthusiasts that care deeply about environmental preservation. How TF can you support this? They really don’t give a fock, Fnord. They’re terrible people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,264 Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: They really don’t give a fock, Fnord. They’re terrible people. No they are not. We will get nowhere until we all realize that these are our fellow countrymen. We disagree on some things. But we agree on a whole lot more. Demonizing and dehumanizing each other with language like this got us to this point. I know a lot of people that voted for Trump IRL. I would not call a single one of them a horrible person. Even the biggest pieces of shlt posting here are mostly decent people (obviously there are some exceptions like @Horsemanure, who truly does seem to be a human fecal repository). We just need to figure out how to listen to each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, Fnord said: No they are not. We will get nowhere until we all realize that these are our fellow countrymen. We disagree on some things. But we agree on a whole lot more. Demonizing and dehumanizing each other with language like this got us to this point. I know a lot of people that voted for Trump IRL. I would not call a single one of them a horrible person. Even the biggest pieces of shlt posting here are mostly decent people (obviously there are some exceptions like @Horsemanure, who truly does seem to be a human fecal repository). We just need to figure out how to listen to each other. Valid. There are a few people here concerned about Musk having everyone's SSN and payment information now. At the end of the day 90% of us want what is right. The other 10% want to watch the world burn. Unfortunately the 10% are in power right now while most of the 90% are either in denial or talking about the grammys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 209 Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, Fnord said: No they are not. We will get nowhere until we all realize that these are our fellow countrymen. We disagree on some things. But we agree on a whole lot more. Demonizing and dehumanizing each other with language like this got us to this point. I know a lot of people that voted for Trump IRL. I would not call a single one of them a horrible person. Even the biggest pieces of shlt posting here are mostly decent people (obviously there are some exceptions like @Horsemanure, who truly does seem to be a human fecal repository). We just need to figure out how to listen to each other. Maybe a few, but it’s not like most of these people didn’t see this movie the 1st time, or witness Jan 6th, or even watch Trump’s campaign rallies. They normalized that sh!t, and voted for the hate and chaos. You keep trying to be civil and understand them and they keep punching you in the face. Good luck with that. 1 minute ago, TrailGuy said: Valid. There are a few people here concerned about Musk having everyone's SSN and payment information now. At the end of the day 90% of us want what is right. The other 10% want to watch the world burn. Unfortunately the 10% are in power right now while most of the 90% are either in denial or talking about the grammys. Unfortunately the 10% make up 75% of the right wing posters here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,264 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, The Girlfriend said: Maybe a few, but it’s not like most of these people didn’t see this movie the 1st time, or witness Jan 6th, or even watch Trump’s campaign rallies. They normalized that sh!t, and voted for the hate and chaos. You keep trying to be civil and understand them and they keep punching you in the face. Good luck with that. Unfortunately the 10% make up 75% of the right wing posters here. Memories are short and right wing media is good at pummeling the same messaging all day, every day. I won't deny heavy disappointment at the whitewashing of Jan.6. I do try to be civil, that's just who I am. Respect for others is foundational in my life. When someone here or IRL shows me they are not worthy of my respect, I will react appropriately. In this place, that means punching back. Which I do plenty. I just try to be careful that I'm only punching my target, not everyone that agrees with them politically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: At the end of the day 90% of us want what is right. The other 10% want to watch the world burn. You're manic-depressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 209 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Fnord said: Memories are short and right wing media is good at pummeling the same messaging all day, every day. I won't deny heavy disappointment at the whitewashing of Jan.6. I do try to be civil, that's just who I am. Respect for others is foundational in my life. When someone here or IRL shows me they are not worthy of my respect, I will react appropriately. In this place, that means punching back. Which I do plenty. I just try to be careful that I'm only punching my target, not everyone that agrees with them politically. That’s fair. My horrible people statement was maybe a little too general but it was directed at douchenozzles here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,264 Posted February 4 15 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: That’s fair. My horrible people statement was maybe a little too general but it was directed at douchenozzles here. Of which there are plenty, a perfect example being the poster who replied directly before you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted February 4 46 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Valid. There are a few people here concerned about Musk having everyone's SSN and payment information now. At the end of the day 90% of us want what is right. The other 10% want to watch the world burn. Unfortunately the 10% are in power right now while most of the 90% are either in denial or talking about the grammys. So why are you rooting for bad things to happen to Americans as long as Trump looks bad in the process? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 4 Just now, CaptainObvious1 said: So why are you rooting for bad things to happen to Americans as long as Trump looks bad in the process? I'm rooting for Trump to fail before he destroys America. In order for that to happen you cultists need to wake up and realize what he's doing. That's not going to happen until you're personally affected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, TrailGuy said: I'm rooting for Trump to fail before he destroys America. In order for that to happen you cultists need to wake up and realize what he's doing. That's not going to happen until you're personally affected. So you're in the 10% that want to watch the world burn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,763 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, TrailGuy said: I'm rooting for Trump to fail before he destroys America. In order for that to happen you cultists need to wake up and realize what he's doing. That's not going to happen until you're personally affected. I’m not going to rip you the way these other guys are (because most of them are horrible hypocrites who were positively gleeful whenever anything went wrong for President Biden). But I do strongly disagree with you. I also want Trump to fail to carry through most of his ideas, but I don’t want this country to suffer even for the moment as a result; that’s not worth it to me. Yesterday was the perfect outcome: Trump tries out his horrible tariff plan, gets pushback from the other countries and the stock market, Trump backs off before anyone is seriously harmed. All good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said: So you're in the 10% that want to watch the world burn. No I want to watch America succeed. I want to see our constitution followed, laws bided by, people treated with respect, health and prosperity. Pretty much everything that Trump has tried to destroy the past month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,763 Posted February 4 I kind of look upon Trump as if my sports team just hired a coach I can’t stand and want fired. I’m still going to go to the games and root for the team, even though I know that a losing streak would ensure the coach getting axed. Because it’s my team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m not going to rip you the way these other guys are (because most of them are horrible hypocrites who were positively gleeful whenever anything went wrong for President Biden). But I do strongly disagree with you. I also want Trump to fail to carry through most of his ideas, but I don’t want this country to suffer even for the moment as a result; that’s not worth it to me. Yesterday was the perfect outcome: Trump tries out his horrible tariff plan, gets pushback from the other countries and the stock market, Trump backs off before anyone is seriously harmed. All good. I admire your conviction and naivety. But we are in this situation because a certain segment of the population is ignorant, bitter, hateful and downright nasty. Do I want these people to suffer, no, but maybe paying extra for gas or booze might teach them a lesson. Frankly I don't know what else will. They don't respond to logic, facts, the truth. They only want other people to suffer. Payback is a b1tch. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted February 4 Just now, TrailGuy said: I admire your conviction and naivety. But we are in this situation because a certain segment of the population is ignorant, bitter, hateful and downright nasty. Do I want these people to suffer, no, but maybe paying extra for gas or booze might teach them a lesson. Frankly I don't know what else will. They don't respond to logic, facts, the truth. They only want other people to suffer. Payback is a b1tch. Payback for what? Everyone was already paying more for stuff the last 4 years. You are so freaking stupid and outside of reality because Trump ruined you. You are the 10%. You've been the same person under 10 different accounts now across three platforms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,793 Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: I admire your conviction and naivety. But we are in this situation because a certain segment of the population is ignorant, bitter, hateful and downright nasty. Do I want these people to suffer, no, but maybe paying extra for gas or booze might teach them a lesson. Frankly I don't know what else will. They don't respond to logic, facts, the truth. They only want other people to suffer. Payback is a b1tch. The bolded is very true. I don't think it's the group you mean, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,763 Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: I admire your conviction and naivety. But we are in this situation because a certain segment of the population is ignorant, bitter, hateful and downright nasty. Do I want these people to suffer, no, but maybe paying extra for gas or booze might teach them a lesson. Frankly I don't know what else will. They don't respond to logic, facts, the truth. They only want other people to suffer. Payback is a b1tch. If we’re talking about the MAGA folks I agree. But most of those who voted for Trump, IMO, are not MAGA types; they just figured (wrongly IMO) that he’d do a better job bringing down prices and getting the border under control. These are reasonable folks; I just think they’re wrong. No doubt they think I’m wrong. In the next election some will vote for Republicans again, and some for Democrats. I just want to get through the next four years without too much suffering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, jerryskids said: The bolded is very true. I don't think it's the group you mean, though. Of course you don't because you're in a cult If there were any doubt who the ignorant bitter and hateful people they are, just look to see what Trump has done the past 30 days and who cheers for it. You would be included in that group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If we’re talking about the MAGA folks I agree. But most of those who voted for Trump, IMO, are not MAGA types; they just figured (wrongly IMO) that he’d do a better job bringing down prices and getting the border under control. These are reasonable folks; I just think they’re wrong. No doubt they think I’m wrong. In the next election some will vote for Republicans again, and some for Democrats. I just want to get through the next four years without too much suffering. Yes I'm specifically talking about the Maga folks. The ones who voted for Trump because they were frustrated with the border and groceries and inflation, I can understand that and do not wish ill on them. I know many of them. Some are family and their eyes have been opened the past month. But those maga folks can eat sh1t for all I care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Girlfriend 209 Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Yes I'm specifically talking about the Maga folks. The ones who voted for Trump because they were frustrated with the border and groceries and inflation, I can understand that and do not wish ill on them. I know many of them. Some are family and their eyes have been opened the past month. But those maga folks can eat sh1t for all I care. w/razor blades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 10:28 AM, RaiderHaters Revenge said: This is about the most idiotic thing I’ve ever seen. And liberals do a lot. Couldn’t stop watching 31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If we’re talking about the MAGA folks I agree. But most of those who voted for Trump, IMO, are not MAGA types; they just figured (wrongly IMO) that he’d do a better job bringing down prices and getting the border under control. These are reasonable folks; I just think they’re wrong. No doubt they think I’m wrong. In the next election some will vote for Republicans again, and some for Democrats. I just want to get through the next four years without too much suffering. 26 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Of course you don't because you're in a cult If there were any doubt who the ignorant bitter and hateful people they are, just look to see what Trump has done the past 30 days and who cheers for it. You would be included in that group. 17 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said: w/razor blades. 1 hour ago, Fnord said: Of which there are plenty, a perfect example being the poster who replied directly before you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
