Here come the tariffs

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The funny thing about tariffs is that I can pretty much avoid them. Not so much with income taxes.

How do you avoid the tariffs?

[The Real timschochet 6,834]

15% deal reached with Europe. 
 

I suppose we should be relieved that it’s not higher, which would truly have wrecked our economy. 15% is not good though. It’s still going to be a painful tax that will hurt us. It will eventually be passed on to the consumer. And for what? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,502]

Winning

[Gepetto 1,372]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

15% deal reached with Europe. 
 

I suppose we should be relieved that it’s not higher, which would truly have wrecked our economy. 15% is not good though. It’s still going to be a painful tax that will hurt us. It will eventually be passed on to the consumer. And for what? 

It’s revenue for the US Govt passed on as cuts to US income taxes. That was an easy question to answer.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,502]

This deal with the EU is being described as powerful, big. MAGA. 

[seafoam1 3,072]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

15% deal reached with Europe. 
 

I suppose we should be relieved that it’s not higher, which would truly have wrecked our economy. 15% is not good though. It’s still going to be a painful tax that will hurt us. It will eventually be passed on to the consumer. And for what? 

Other than maybe gutterboy, is there anyone on this site that is dumber at economics than this guy? 

And maybe squid and mdpee? I mean, liberals in general know absolutely nothing about money. Maybe that's why they are all so broke and looking for government handouts. 

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

3 hours ago, Gepetto said:

It’s revenue for the US Govt passed on as cuts to US income taxes. That was an easy question to answer.

What?  There is no tax cut offset the tariff tax we are getting.

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This deal with the EU is being described as powerful, big. MAGA. 

Described by Trump

 

[BrahmaBulls 775]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

What?  There is no tax cut offset the tariff tax we are getting.

Every other sentence from you clowns is talking about the rich getting tax cuts.  Make up your mind.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,502]

15 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Described by Trump

 

So easy

[Horseman 2,476]

EU 

[Horseman 2,476]

47 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Every other sentence from you clowns is talking about the rich getting tax cuts.  Make up your mind.

I'm waaaay better of.  I'll pay an extra $100 for my next dishwasher if I need to. That's nothing.  

And keep interest rates high too, that only affects the poor.  

[Horseman 2,476]

55 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

What?  There is no tax cut offset the tariff tax we are getting.

[HellToupee 1,808]

Today, President Trump secured a HUGE, POWERFUL TRADE DEAL between the U.S. and EU  

The EU will: 
Invest $600 Billion in U.S.
️ Purchase $750 Billion in American Energy
Open Markets to U.S.

[HellToupee 1,808]

Bill Maher ‘wrong’ about Trump’s tariffs: ‘I gotta own it’

 Summarize

Asher NotheisJuly 28, 2025 12:00 pm

Maher cited Trump’s use of tariffs as an example, saying he was among “probably most people” who believed tariffs would have a negative effect on the nation, but “that didn’t happen.”

“But look, the stock market is at record highs. I know not everybody lives by the stock market, but I also drive around. I don’t see a country in a depression at all. I see people out there just living their lives,” Maher said Monday on his Club Random podcast.

[RLLD 4,254]

I appreciate Bill Maher, he is an old school liberal.....he still possesses the ability to admit when he is wrong. 

I still find it baffling that so many people really cannot comprehend why this is all working so well. This is not hard to follow that Trump was working this masterfully....

[SUXBNME 1,515]

5 hours ago, HellToupee said:

 

Bill Maher ‘wrong’ about Trump’s tariffs: ‘I gotta own it’

 

 Summarize

 

Asher NotheisJuly 28, 2025 12:00 pm

Maher cited Trump’s use of tariffs as an example, saying he was among “probably most people” who believed tariffs would have a negative effect on the nation, but “that didn’t happen.”

“But look, the stock market is at record highs. I know not everybody lives by the stock market, but I also drive around. I don’t see a country in a depression at all. I see people out there just living their lives,” Maher said Monday on his Club Random podcast.

Just came into this thread to post that. lol

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

Republicans introduce Bill to send $600 checks to all Americans claiming that their tariff rebates

[RLLD 4,254]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Republicans introduce Bill to send $600 checks to all Americans claiming that their tariff rebates

I do not agree with this.  That money should be spent to pay down our debt, or be provided to military veterans in need before we do this crap.  

Moreover, the amount is not too much but this is an inflationary move. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,502]

I’m going to get that Trumpy Bear! 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,502]

Q2 GDP up 3 pct. Who started this thread? 

[supermike80 1,928]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Q2 GDP up 3 pct. Who started this thread? 

What the deuce???

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

59 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Q2 GDP up 3 pct. Who started this thread? 

Taco is real

[RLLD 4,254]

1 hour ago, supermike80 said:

What the deuce???

What we are witnessing is the important distinction between reading textbooks and working within markets.  No doubt there are a section of folks who are mystified because the once read an opinion about Smoot-Hawley or some other irrelevant element and think they know.....but they dont know sh!t....

[The Real timschochet 6,834]

On 7/28/2025 at 11:43 AM, HellToupee said:

 

Bill Maher ‘wrong’ about Trump’s tariffs: ‘I gotta own it’

 

 Summarize

 

Asher NotheisJuly 28, 2025 12:00 pm

Maher cited Trump’s use of tariffs as an example, saying he was among “probably most people” who believed tariffs would have a negative effect on the nation, but “that didn’t happen.”

“But look, the stock market is at record highs. I know not everybody lives by the stock market, but I also drive around. I don’t see a country in a depression at all. I see people out there just living their lives,” Maher said Monday on his Club Random podcast.

Posts like this are going to be especially embarrassing a few months from now. But unfortunately I won’t be gloating about it because I’m going to feel the pain as much as everyone else. 

[Meglamaniac 529]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Posts like this are going to be especially embarrassing a few months from now. But unfortunately I won’t be gloating about it because I’m going to feel the pain as much as everyone else. 

Well then, let's just put your reply away for a few months and then revisit it and see how well it ages

[Hardcore troubadour 15,502]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Posts like this are going to be especially embarrassing a few months from now. But unfortunately I won’t be gloating about it because I’m going to feel the pain as much as everyone else. 

You’ll be fine. Your lifestyle will not be affected. 

[The Real timschochet 6,834]

1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said:

Well then, let's just put your reply away for a few months and then revisit it and see how well it ages

OK. Hope you’re right and that it doesn’t age well. I’m not though. 

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

25 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What we are witnessing is the important distinction between reading textbooks and working within markets.  No doubt there are a section of folks who are mystified because the once read an opinion about Smoot-Hawley or some other irrelevant element and think they know.....but they dont know sh!t....

What we just witnessed is a guy that conveniently ignored the fact that tariffs were largely paused giving businesses a chance to import a large amount of goods before they kicked in and thus haven't had an effect on the economy yet.  Not only did he ignore this, but he's now claiming that he was right all along.  Truly a spectacle.

[RLLD 4,254]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

What we just witnessed is a guy that conveniently ignored the fact that tariffs were largely paused giving businesses a chance to import a large amount of goods before they kicked in and thus haven't had an effect on the economy yet.  Not only did he ignore this, but he's now claiming that he was right all along.  Truly a spectacle.

What we just witnessed was a master class in how to conduct negotiations to achieve the desired outcomes. Even the devoted anti-trumpers are having to admit as much, but hey, let your hate dictate how you react.....

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

Just now, RLLD said:

What we just witnessed was a master class in how to conduct negotiations to achieve the desired outcomes. Even the devoted anti-trumpers are having to admit as much, but hey, let your hate dictate how you react.....

I would love to hear what the desired outcomes were and what we actually achieved.

We heard so many different desired outcomes between balancing trade to building factories to raising revenue.  All we have done so far is raised some revenue which I would argue there are easier and better ways of doing so.  But feel free to explain this master class.

[RLLD 4,254]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I would love to hear what the desired outcomes were and what we actually achieved.

We heard so many different desired outcomes between balancing trade to building factories to raising revenue.  All we have done so far is raised some revenue which I would argue there are easier and better ways of doing so.  But feel free to explain this master class.

I think you might not be honest here.  You only want him to fail because you hate him, the person.  I get that....but hoping he will fail and then people will suffer is maybe not the best place for you, mentally and emotionally.

So far, its going well, and I hope this trend continues.  I have to assume at some point he will make a mistake, and I hope its not a big one.  But, simply not making really bad policy means we are doing far better than Biden, who really ruined things for many people

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think you might not be honest here.  You only want him to fail because you hate him, the person.  I get that....but hoping he will fail and then people will suffer is maybe not the best place for you, mentally and emotionally.

So far, its going well, and I hope this trend continues.  I have to assume at some point he will make a mistake, and I hope its not a big one.  But, simply not making really bad policy means we are doing far better than Biden, who really ruined things for many people

I'm not rooting for people to suffer, rooting for the opposite. 

So about that masterclass, desired outcomes and how he achieved them?

[seafoam1 3,072]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

I'm not rooting for people to suffer, rooting for the opposite. 

So about that masterclass, desired outcomes and how he achieved them?

Why don't you get an education and see for yourself? You always want others to feed you the information .

[RLLD 4,254]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

I'm not rooting for people to suffer, rooting for the opposite. 

So about that masterclass, desired outcomes and how he achieved them?

 

Let me just say this.....all those people, to include yourself, who were wrong about tariffs might want to pump the brakes....just opposing him because you hate him clearly carries the risk of you losing some credibility....dont you think?

 

Donald Trump’s trade policy is in danger of demonstrating the truth about one of those old definitions of an economist: someone who sees something working in practice and explains why it will never work in theory.

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

 

Let me just say this.....all those people, to include yourself, who were wrong about tariffs might want to pump the brakes....just opposing him because you hate him clearly carries the risk of you losing some credibility....dont you think?

 

Donald Trump’s trade policy is in danger of demonstrating the truth about one of those old definitions of an economist: someone who sees something working in practice and explains why it will never work in theory.

I wasn't wrong about tariffs.  We haven't seen the full effect of the tariffs due to the pause.

Last time I'll ask... So about that masterclass, desired outcomes and how he achieved them?  I'm assuming you are refusing to answer this because you can't.

 

[RLLD 4,254]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I wasn't wrong about tariffs.  We haven't seen the full effect of the tariffs due to the pause.

Last time I'll ask... So about that masterclass, desired outcomes and how he achieved them?  I'm assuming you are refusing to answer this because you can't.

 

To be fair, we have not yet enjoyed all the benefits tariffs will bring, right now we are only observing the tremendous revenue gain while inflation remains under control.  There is actually a much larger benefit down the road for employment and with it tax revenues.  But there is a run on that, you see... employment rising DOES actually have a formidable inflationary impact, unlike tariffs....

So his masterclass of deal making, securing better outcomes for this nation is still under way, questioned answered.....

[Ron_Artest 1,572]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

To be fair, we have not yet enjoyed all the benefits tariffs will bring, right now we are only observing the tremendous revenue gain while inflation remains under control.  There is actually a much larger benefit down the road for employment and with it tax revenues.  But there is a run on that, you see... employment rising DOES actually have a formidable inflationary impact, unlike tariffs....

So his masterclass of deal making, securing better outcomes for this nation is still under way, questioned answered.....

So previously you stated we just witnessed was a master class in how to conduct negotiations to achieve the desired outcomes.  But now you're saying the masterclass is still underway and we haven't seen the desired outcomes yet.

As I assumed, you're full of sh1t

[Meglamaniac 529]

52 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK. Hope you’re right and that it doesn’t age well. I’m not though. 

I swear you have a master's degree in talking out of both sides of your mouth.

 

"Posts like this are going to be especially embarrassing a few months from now." 

 

" Hope you’re right and that it doesn’t age well. I’m not though. "

[RLLD 4,254]

4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So previously you stated we just witnessed was a master class in how to conduct negotiations to achieve the desired outcomes.  But now you're saying the masterclass is still underway and we haven't seen the desired outcomes yet.

As I assumed, you're full of sh1t

What?  What the fock are you talking about?

There are about 17 nations we trade with that this still needs to be done, we are not done yet, you moron.....

OMFG, you should really say this sh!t in your head before typing it....