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1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Meh, first I would like to see us following the constitution and make things more affordable.  If people are dumb enough to vote R after all this, nothing we can do about it.

Prices didn't go up under Biden and Obama?  You're retarded

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So based on what I’m reading, the 3 liberal judges are highly skeptical while Alito and Thomas are, naturally, in favor of Trump’s position. The remaining 4 expressed some skepticism  though Kavanaugh seemed open to the foreign policy argument. 

This looks to be a 5-4 decision either way. 

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46 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Prices didn't go up under Biden and Obama?  You're retarded

That's your conclusion?  And you're calling me retarded?

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6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

That's your conclusion?  And you're calling me retarded?

I did call you retarded because you are.

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2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

So based on what I’m reading, the 3 liberal judges are highly skeptical while Alito and Thomas are, naturally, in favor of Trump’s position. The remaining 4 expressed some skepticism  though Kavanaugh seemed open to the foreign policy argument. 

This looks to be a 5-4 decision either way. 

I’m going to correct this- I now think it’s going to go 6-3 with Alito, Thomas and Kavanaugh in dissent. 

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One great question asked by one of the conservative justices (I think it was Gorsuch): Trump is claiming that the “emergency” gives him broad powers to impose tariffs without any restrictions based on the 1977 law. Gorsuch asked, under that interpretation could a future Democratic President decide that climate change is an emergency and tariff all gasoline fueled cars completely out of existence without Congress weighing in? The answer of course is yes. Trump is claiming all authority to himself in the name of the emergency. 

I doubt Trump helped his argument by threatening to tariff Brazil if Bolsonaro went to prison, and tariffing Canada because of a commercial he didn’t like. But I don’t know if these instances were brought up or not. 

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5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

So based on what I’m reading, the 3 liberal judges are highly skeptical while Alito and Thomas are, naturally, in favor of Trump’s position. The remaining 4 expressed some skepticism  though Kavanaugh seemed open to the foreign policy argument. 

This looks to be a 5-4 decision either way. 

6-3

ETA - just read your edit.  I think it 6-3 at a min, but most likely 7-2.  Once Kavanaugh reads Thomas dissent he'll jump to the other side. 

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9 hours ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Prices didn't go up under Biden and Obama?  You're retarded

1.) Inflation was historically low under Obama with the exception of health insurance premiums and gas prices. Obamacare did cause premiums to go up, but gas prices rose due to worldwide conditions, not any Obama policy.

2.) Prices went up under Biden but very largely due to post-COVID supply and demand.

Prices across the board right now are increasing largely because of Trump's tariffs.

Feel free to blindly blame presidents, but it would serve you well and make you look more intelligent if you actually exercised some Economics 101.

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1 minute ago, FrancieFootball said:

1.) Inflation was historically low under Obama with the exception of health insurance premiums and gas prices. Obamacare did cause premiums to go up, but gas prices rose due to worldwide conditions, not any Obama policy.

2.) Prices went up under Biden but very largely due to post-COVID supply and demand.

Prices across the board right now are increase largely because of Trump's tariffs.

Feel free to blindly blame presidents, but it would serve you well and make you look more intelligent if you actually exercised some Economics 101.

Rusty is now a chick with a and thinks he's an Econ expert.  This board never disappoints

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32 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Rusty is now a chick with a and thinks he's an Econ expert.  This board never disappoints

This is what you pivot to when you're too lazy to do research and just follow the other Trump sheeple off the cliff.

I have a doctorate in economics from Stanford, so you could learn a thing or two from me.

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6 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

I have a doctorate in economics from Stanford

You should of taken Biology 🌈

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Is the SC really going to toss Trump’s tariffs out? What a complete fiasco if that happens. Crushing to this term. These tariffs are one of the pillars, probably the main one, of what he wanted to try and achieve. 

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50 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Is the SC really going to toss Trump’s tariffs out? What a complete fiasco if that happens. Crushing to this term. These tariffs are one of the pillars, probably the main one, of what he wanted to try and achieve. 

Just gives him a built in excuse if there’s a recession 

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Just gives him a built in excuse if there’s a recession 

Only his biggest nuthuggers will believe that the conservative SC caused his recession. This would be a total disaster for Dementia Don.

Have a hard time believing this will get tossed, they’ll give the tariffs an out somehow.

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