Islam

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We should ban the dirty fockers 

[Maximum Overkill 2,400]

Keep them away from your Goats 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

A net negative. 

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

Ignorance and bigotry. You guys are being really ugly. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Ignorance and bigotry. You guys are being really ugly. 

Truth, and each tribe leader has their "Boy". 

Don't believe me, spend 2 years in Afghanistan. They're sick people 

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Truth, and each tribe leader has their "Boy". 

Don't believe me, spend 2 years in Afghanistan. They're sick people 

Speaking from personal experience (including some folks from Afghanistan whom I have gotten to know very well) you couldn’t be more wrong. And ignorant. 

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31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Speaking from personal experience (including some folks from Afghanistan whom I have gotten to know very well) you couldn’t be more wrong. And ignorant. 

Nope, been there and have seen it with my own two eyes. Nice try Timmay! 

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

18 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Nope, been there and have seen it with my own two eyes. Nice try Timmay! 

You’re been there so every Afghan and every Muslim is an evil POS. You’ve met them all? You’re pretty amazing. (Or, as an alternative, you’re a stupid bigot. I think that’s more likely.) 

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6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re been there so every Afghan and every Muslim is an evil POS. You’ve met them all? You’re pretty amazing. (Or, as an alternative, you’re a stupid bigot. I think that’s more likely.) 

Bacha Bazi.  Women are for breeding. Boys are for fun. 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re been there so every Afghan and every Muslim is an evil POS. You’ve met them all? You’re pretty amazing. (Or, as an alternative, you’re a stupid bigot. I think that’s more likely.) 

Did I say every?? But don't act like this crap doesn't exist because it's factual. And yes, they do raise dogs to eat them in rural Afghanistan 

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Did I say every?? But don't act like this crap doesn't exist because it's factual. And yes, they do raise dogs to eat them in rural Afghanistan 

You didn’t say every. But you responded to a thread called “Islam” and a bigoted, hateful series of posts. 

Every society has bad actors. Every society does terrible things to animals too. Shall we blame what Michael Vick did to dogs on all of American society? It’s bigoted to make blanket statements. 

The Taliban is certainly evil. There are other radical sects of Islam that are also evil. But I believe that the vast majority of individual Afghans, like the vast majority of individual Muslims, like the vast majority if everybody on Earth, are basically good people who don’t want to harm anyone and deserve a little respect and dignity. That’s why I hate attitudes like the OP and those who agree with him. If that makes me, in your eyes, a naive bleeding heart liberal then fine. I’ll gladly accept the title and own it proudly. 

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Ignorance and bigotry. You guys are being really ugly. 

New thread but the same old story.

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Islam is a morally bankrupt culture. Doesn't mean there aren't good Muslims. But the culture is not something I would want to encourage in the US. 

 

[Cdub100 3,995]

Ditto for Jews

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Moral relativism = weakness

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

6 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Moral relativism = weakness

Agreed. Do you think you’re contributing to moral rectitude by sharing the OP’s opinion here? Do you think that it’s a coincidence that the Jew hater agrees with the OP about hating Muslims as well? It isn’t. 

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Islam is a morally bankrupt culture. Doesn't mean there aren't good Muslims. But the culture is not something I would want to encourage in the US. 

 

Once again I strongly disagree. Over the last few years I have spent much time with all aspects of Islamic culture: Sunni, Shia and Ismaili (a smaller sect). I won’t offer details because they’re personal but I can guarantee you that the culture is not morally bankrupt. As with both Christianity and Judaism there are aspects that I don’t approve of. But for the most part these are honorable people of great dignity, thoughtfulness, and decency, and that stems from their religion. So I would say you’re completely wrong about this, 

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I am all for banning

Muslims

Jews

Christians

Hindus

 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Agreed. Do you think you’re contributing to moral rectitude by sharing the OP’s opinion here? Do you think that it’s a coincidence that the Jew hater agrees with the OP about hating Muslims as well? It isn’t. 

I think it’s silly and childish to refrain from making generic value judgments on cultures, states, and other groups of people.  It’s ok to criticize Afghani culture.  Theres a lot to criticize there.  You have no trouble criticizing Republicans, Trump supporters, and other groups that don’t align with your values.

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

Just now, Patented Phil said:

I think it’s silly and childish to refrain from making generic value judgments on cultures, states, and other groups of people.  It’s ok to criticize Afghani culture.  Theres a lot to criticize there.  You have no trouble criticizing Republicans, Trump supporters, and other groups that don’t align with your values.

I have no trouble criticizing aspects of Afghan culture or any culture. But criticizing Islam as a whole, or Afghans as a whole, saying “we should ban the dirty fockers” is ignorant hateful bigotry. And it’s not moral relativism for me to point that out.

Have you read The Kite Runner? That’s a beautiful novel about Afghanistan, it describes the evil of the Taliban and other awful things about Afghan culture. It also describes the beauty of Afghan culture and the great values that most of the people have. It’s not either-or. We live in a complex world. We can make value judgments without condemning whole groups of people. 

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10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I have no trouble criticizing aspects of Afghan culture or any culture. But criticizing Islam as a whole, or Afghans as a whole, saying “we should ban the dirty fockers” is ignorant hateful bigotry. And it’s not moral relativism for me to point that out.

Have you read The Kite Runner? That’s a beautiful novel about Afghanistan, it describes the evil of the Taliban and other awful things about Afghan culture. It also describes the beauty of Afghan culture and the great values that most of the people have. It’s not either-or. We live in a complex world. We can make value judgments without condemning whole groups of people. 

I dont want large numbers of Afghanis to immigrate into this country.  I want my neighbors and fellow countrymen to share a similar baseline of common beliefs.  You can call that whatever you want - ignorant, racist, xenophobic, hateful…. I call it smart.

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

10 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I dont want large numbers of Afghanis to immigrate into this country.  I want my neighbors and fellow countrymen to share a similar baseline of common beliefs.  You can call that whatever you want - ignorant, racist, xenophobic, hateful…. I call it smart.

It’s not smart. It’s sad. Hopefully life will cause you to change your mind. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s not smart. It’s sad. Hopefully life will cause you to change your mind. 

Sorry dude. What he said is smart. Are you like 18 years old? 

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32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Once again I strongly disagree. Over the last few years I have spent much time with all aspects of Islamic culture: Sunni, Shia and Ismaili (a smaller sect). I won’t offer details because they’re personal but I can guarantee you that the culture is not morally bankrupt. As with both Christianity and Judaism there are aspects that I don’t approve of. But for the most part these are honorable people of great dignity, thoughtfulness, and decency, and that stems from their religion. So I would say you’re completely wrong about this, 

No you haven't  You are a pretend Jew who knows a guy, at best.

But hey, lets start with shia.  tell us the benefits of that culture in the US. 

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8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s not smart. It’s sad. Hopefully life will cause you to change your mind. 

I hate to disappoint you, but my beliefs are not coming from a position of ignorance.  I’ve traveled extensively and I’ve interacted with a lot of different peoples and cultures.  I’ve lived in diverse areas and homogeneous areas - urban and rural.  The wisdom I’ve attained is clear and unmistakable - common beliefs make for better, more peaceful societies.

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4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

No you haven't  You are a pretend Jew who knows a guy, at best.

But hey, lets start with shia.  tell us the benefits of that culture in the US. 

I will later. Gotta run. But you’re wrong, as I wrote I know a whole community. 

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

I will answer the question about Shia right now. Most of the Shia I know are Iranian (Iran is mostly a Shiite country.) Almost all of them are descended from families who fled the Mullah’s revolution in 1979 or who have fled that evil regime since. The ones I have come to know are decent, honorable, terrific businesspeople, extremely family oriented, courteous to a fault, and love the USA. Exactly what you want in an immigrant. 
 

I have also come to know a few Ismaili- that’s also a Shia sect, mostly from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Also decent and honorable, they place a high priority on education and have settled here and in Canada because they do not share the prevailing Muslim views on limiting the rights of women. 

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15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I will answer the question about Shia right now. Most of the Shia I know are Iranian (Iran is mostly a Shiite country.) Almost all of them are descended from families who fled the Mullah’s revolution in 1979 or who have fled that evil regime since. The ones I have come to know are decent, honorable, terrific businesspeople, extremely family oriented, courteous to a fault, and love the USA. Exactly what you want in an immigrant. 
 

I have also come to know a few Ismaili- that’s also a Shia sect, mostly from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Also decent and honorable, they place a high priority on education and have settled here and in Canada because they do not share the prevailing Muslim views on limiting the rights of women. 

So, good people who fled a sh1t culture?

ETA:  45 years ago.  Why would new shia immigrants contribute to our culture?

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Once again I strongly disagree. 

Have that culture raise your daughter. You are a clown 

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16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I will answer the question about Shia right now. Most of the Shia I know are Iranian (Iran is mostly a Shiite country.) Almost all of them are descended from families who fled the Mullah’s revolution in 1979 or who have fled that evil regime since. The ones I have come to know are decent, honorable, terrific businesspeople, extremely family oriented, courteous to a fault, and love the USA. Exactly what you want in an immigrant. 
 

I have also come to know a few Ismaili- that’s also a Shia sect, mostly from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Also decent and honorable, they place a high priority on education and have settled here and in Canada because they do not share the prevailing Muslim views on limiting the rights of women. 

You are insanely full of sh!t. 

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30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I will later. Gotta run. But you’re wrong, as I wrote I know a whole community. 

I gotta run. Posts 5 minutes later. Jesus you're pathetic. 

Here is how it goes:

Man

Camel

Dog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Woman

It that exact order.

Women cant even ride on the same elevator as men. What you've experienced with your brain dead western Islam friends isn't even close to reality in the middle east you foking moron.  Let me know when you have a friend who's wife was abducted in broad daylight by a prince in front him and their young daughter. Then when he contacted the authorities, after a couple hours long "investigation", him and his daughter were escorted out of the country and told never to return. A husband and young daughter never seen their wife/mother again. 

Let me know when you know Islam that well and we can talk. Until then STFU.  

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5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I gotta run. Posts 5 minutes later. Jesus you're pathetic. 

Here is how it goes:

Man

Camel

Dog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Woman

It that exact order.

Women cant even ride on the same elevator as men. What you've experienced with your brain dead western Islam friends isn't even close to reality in the middle east you foking moron.  Let me know when you have a friend who's wife was abducted in broad daylight by a prince in front him and their young daughter. Then when he contacted the authorities, after a couple hours long "investigation", him and his daughter were escorted out of the country and told never to return. A husband and young daughter never seen their wife/mother again. 

Let me know when you know Islam that well and we can talk. Until then STFU.  

Guys guys guys... Tim knows a shia dood, who to his knowledge hasn't raped anyone in the US.  That makes the entire Shia culture favorable, we should encourage as many of them as possible to immigrate here ASAP!  Immigrants are always a positive!

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Who would think that a religion that worships a pedo would be a POS religion?

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Once again I strongly disagree. Over the last few years I have spent much time with all aspects of Islamic culture: Sunni, Shia and Ismaili (a smaller sect). I won’t offer details because they’re personal but I can guarantee you that the culture is not morally bankrupt. As with both Christianity and Judaism there are aspects that I don’t approve of. But for the most part these are honorable people of great dignity, thoughtfulness, and decency, and that stems from their religion. So I would say you’re completely wrong about this, 

I don't disagree with you. However, I feel like Muslims think they are better people than non-Muslims. A lot of groups are like this though.

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I have no trouble criticizing aspects of Afghan culture or any culture. But criticizing Islam as a whole, or Afghans as a whole, saying “we should ban the dirty fockers” is ignorant hateful bigotry.

Agreed. 

[The Real timschochet 7,381]

48 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

Agreed. 

Thanks. Some of the responses in here are really pitiful. I didn’t expect much from Tony or Cdub but a few of the others…disappointing. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

The Irish are the best. Hands down. 

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8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I will answer the question about Shia right now. Most of the Shia I know are Iranian (Iran is mostly a Shiite country.) Almost all of them are descended from families who fled the Mullah’s revolution in 1979 or who have fled that evil regime since. The ones I have come to know are decent, honorable, terrific businesspeople, extremely family oriented, courteous to a fault, and love the USA. Exactly what you want in an immigrant. 
 

I have also come to know a few Ismaili- that’s also a Shia sect, mostly from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Also decent and honorable, they place a high priority on education and have settled here and in Canada because they do not share the prevailing Muslim views on limiting the rights of women. 

I know plenty that have assimilated well into US society and culture as well. These campus protests disturb me. Calling for the humane treatment of civilians is justified but these protests go well beyond that. There's an ugly simmering rage about Israel that has been laid bare.

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14 hours ago, squistion said:

New thread but the same old story.

It's not Bigotry if it's fact. 

Close your little Liberal ears if you don't want to hear the truth. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

22 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

It's not Bigotry if it's fact. 

Close your little Liberal ears if you don't want to hear the truth. 

Better yet, just leave.