Ex-WaPo reporter doubles down on post wanting health insurance executives dead: 'It's natural to wish'

[jerryskids 6,634]

I'm surprised at many of your attitudes.  You sound like Muslims when Charlie Hebdo was murdered ("well, he DID draw that cartoon of Mohammed...").

The victim is a cog in the healthcare machine.  His company will just replace him with another suit who will try to maximize shareholder value.

 

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Ahhhh, but when you fail to denounce we know only too well that it means you support it, sorry, not my rules....

I think MDC is basically saying the same thing as me. I'd wager most Americans do hate CEO's of health insurance companies....but she went the wrong way about putting this out there. 

[MDC 7,208]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I think MDC is basically saying the same thing as me. I'd wager most Americans do hate CEO's of health insurance companies....but she went the wrong way about putting this out there. 

I don’t support murdering the guy, but I 100% get it. This story could lead to a discussion of UnitedHealthcare’s business practices and why many Americans hate the industry. But the media has trained people like Ray to see it purely as a left/right issue, just like everything else.  

[RLLD 4,156]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

I think MDC is basically saying the same thing as me. I'd wager most Americans do hate CEO's of health insurance companies....but she went the wrong way about putting this out there. 

Well sure, there are plenty of people worthy of our scorn/hate......among them would be the military leadership during the Afghanistan pullout, the people who allowed the free flow of people across the border and with it fentanyl......  it would appear that in THIS instance at least, we can all share condemnation of the insurance folks, but perhaps we diverge a bit on what is an acceptable response.

I would love to know what politicians take the most money from insurance companies....and then look at how they voted on legislation to rein those companies in......that would be fun

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

I would love to know what politicians take the most money from insurance companies....and then look at how they voted on legislation to rein those companies in......that would be fun

I'll venture an early guess of- many politicians from both sides...and they did "jack" and "sh!t" to rein them in. 

[RLLD 4,156]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'll venture an early guess of- many politicians from both sides...and they did "jack" and "sh!t" to rein them in. 

Agree, and i would love to ensure their constituents knew about it.

These people, in DC, amass impressive wealth.....on salaries that do not seem to correlate.   I think they should ALL have to expose their financials, every year.....JMHO

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Agree, and i would love to ensure their constituents knew about it.

These people, in DC, amass impressive wealth.....on salaries that do not seem to correlate.   I think they should ALL have to expose their financials, every year.....JMHO

The whole left/right thing is silly to me for these reasons. No one in Washington cares about legitimately helping any of us here. They help themselves and if it happens to trickle down to help me it's a happy accident for them.

Left/right- it doesn't matter- they are just interested in staying in power. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,951]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'll venture an early guess of- many politicians from both sides...and they did "jack" and "sh!t" to rein them in. 

The ol' "J&S" strategery!  Works 100% of the time, EVERY time. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,951]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

The whole left/right thing is silly to me for these reasons. No one in Washington cares about legitimately helping any of us here. They help themselves and if it happens to trickle down to help me it's a happy accident for them.

Left/right- it doesn't matter- they are just interested in staying in power. 

Yep.  Washington has become a place to get rich, not help people.  Look at AOC.  Went in a pauper and is already worth millions and she's only been in, what?  4 years?

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

19 minutes ago, MDC said:

I don’t support murdering the guy, but

No buts. That should have been the end of the post. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

7 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yep.  Washington has become a place to get rich, not help people.  Look at AOC.  Went in a pauper and is already worth millions and she's only been in, what?  4 years?

Nowhere close: 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-not-203625115.html

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,951]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nowhere close: 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-not-203625115.html

I stand corrected.  She hasn't been in that long.  Just wait, she will though. Just needs a few more years.  Most of these politicians have hidden accounts as well.  She's probably storing her money in some offshore location.

The point still stands - Washington is a place where people go to get rich, not help anyone.  That's not even debatable.

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

9 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I stand corrected.  She hasn't been in that long.  Just wait, she will though. Just needs a few more years.  Most of these politicians have hidden accounts as well.  She's probably storing her money in some offshore location.

The point still stands - Washington is a place where people go to get rich, not help anyone.  That's not even debatable.

 

Kind of makes the arguing over this stuff look trivial no?

[RLLD 4,156]

21 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The whole left/right thing is silly to me for these reasons. No one in Washington cares about legitimately helping any of us here. They help themselves and if it happens to trickle down to help me it's a happy accident for them.

Left/right- it doesn't matter- they are just interested in staying in power. 

Hence me now using those terms, but instead speaking broadly about them all, well, on this topic.....I am not aware of much noise being made on this one to manipulate voters through lying at least. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,836]

23 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The whole left/right thing is silly to me 

Except you're WOKE  

[MDC 7,208]

22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No buts. That should have been the end of the post. 

Nah

[Hardcore troubadour 15,101]

[squistion 2,027]

43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nowhere close: 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-not-203625115.html

You would think they might take the time to look up such an absurd claim before repeating as if it were gospel. 

[seafoam1 2,853]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

I thought MAGA had a problem with the elites? Now they’re mad a reporter said what were all thinking about an insurance CEOs.  

Smart people have problems with liberals like yourself. You all bring others down around you by your mere existence. You are a prime example. You hit the trifecta in life. You are hollow, weak, and stupid. Just like the other retarded liberals in this thread. 

[seafoam1 2,853]

I have great health insurance. Great doctors. The works. Only liberals want people dead for supplying it because they can only afford the crappy minimum coverage cheap insurance. Lazy focks.  

[Engorgeous George 2,222]

Had he not died I wonder if the CEO would have recieved good health care to recover from the incident.

[seafoam1 2,853]

"I would give up all my human rights if I could have the government take care of me and tell me what to do and how to act in life." -Typical liberal. 

[seafoam1 2,853]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

Had he not died I wonder if the CEO would have recieved good health care to recover from the incident.

Why wouldn't he?

[Strike 5,314]

2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Had he not died I wonder if the CEO would have recieved good health care to recover from the incident.

I'm sure he would have, regardless of what his policy said.

[RLLD 4,156]

17 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

I have great health insurance. Great doctors. The works. Only liberals want people dead for supplying it because they can only afford the crappy minimum coverage cheap insurance. Lazy focks.  

Right.  But could it be true that if you look back over the last 20-30 years, it was better coverage?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,951]

10 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Liberals in a nutshell...

Taylor Lorenz defended herself on Substack saying that thousands of Americans 'want insurance executives dead'

Former Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz doubled down Thursday on her shocking comments appearing to celebrate the reportedly targeted murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

A chilling video released Wednesday showed Thompson being shot and killed at close range while outside the Hilton Hotel in midtown Manhattan, New York. The suspect is still at large.

Hours after news broke of his death, Lorenz wrote on the social media site Bluesky, "And people wonder why we want these executives dead," alongside a report about Blue Cross Blue Shield no longer covering anesthesia for the full length of some surgeries. 

Lorenz went on to share images of Blue Cross Blue Shield CEO Kim Keck and reposted calls for other health insurance executives to be targeted. 

And people wonder why we want these "reporters" dead.

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I stand corrected.  She hasn't been in that long.  Just wait, she will though. Just needs a few more years.  Most of these politicians have hidden accounts as well.  She's probably storing her money in some offshore location.

The point still stands - Washington is a place where people go to get rich, not help anyone.  That's not even debatable.

Look I’m not going to be naive and claim it’s all about altruism. But on the other hand I think your attitude, which is shared by many (perhaps even a majority) is a bit cynical. I think most politicians, like most people are generally honest sorts who want to to do what’s best for the public they represent based on their beliefs. I don’t think most of them are corrupt. There are plenty of exceptions. 
 

AOC has always struck me as a well-meaning socialist. She’s not a Communist, not evil. She would like to incorporate socialism into our free democracy, because she honestly believes it would make us a better society. She is wrong about that. She doesn’t recognize the value of the free market IMO and its relationship to the personal freedoms she rightfully espouses. With regard to those personal freedoms, and on woke issues, I generally find myself agreeing with her. 

[seafoam1 2,853]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Right.  But could it be true that if you look back over the last 20-30 years, it was better coverage?

 A couple years back I had some slow internal bleeding that I was not aware of other than some small signs of losing focus and such. I had no idea what was really happening to me. Then one day I went to the bathroom and out came a flood of blood. I went to the emergency room and needed an immediate blood transfusion. and had to spend the next 5 days in the hospital on antibiotics and other stuff. The doctors had fixed the bleeding and eventually I was back to normal. As if it never happened. My insurance covered all of it. They saved my life and I didn't go broke and I got top notch treatment from the second I walked in to the second I walked out. And that was only a couple years ago. Literally almost to date. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,951]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Look I’m not going to be naive and claim it’s all about altruism. But on the other hand I think your attitude, which is shared by many (perhaps even a majority) is a bit cynical. I think most politicians, like most people are generally honest sorts who want to to do what’s best for the public they represent based on their beliefs. I don’t think most of them are corrupt. There are plenty of exceptions. 
 

AOC has always struck me as a well-meaning socialist. She’s not a Communist, not evil. She would like to incorporate socialism into our free democracy, because she honestly believes it would make us a better society. She is wrong about that. She doesn’t recognize the value of the free market IMO and its relationship to the personal freedoms she rightfully espouses. With regard to those personal freedoms, and on woke issues, I generally find myself agreeing with her. 

Socialism, Marxism and Communism are all kissing cousins.  Socialism is but the first stepping stone towards Communism.  We're already seeing it in the left.  In fact, Marx and Engels used "Socialism" and "Communism" interchangeably - they really made no difference between the two.

And to your point about AOC, they are ALL "well meaning" when they first get in.  They change drastically when they find out the killing they can make.  Give it time.  She'll get there.  They all have.

[seafoam1 2,853]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

And people wonder why we want these "reporters" dead.

Literally. 

[seafoam1 2,853]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Socialism, Marxism and Communism are all kissing cousins.  Socialism is but the first stepping stone towards Communism.  We're already seeing it in the left.

It's amazing these liberal fools don't even know the road they are all on in life. Blind as bats but without the echo location to help them not run into things blindly. 

[TimHauck 2,654]

53 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

And people wonder why we want these "reporters" dead.

Do you?

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

43 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Socialism, Marxism and Communism are all kissing cousins.  Socialism is but the first stepping stone towards Communism.  

More like killing cousins. Because as you should know from your history, whenever Communists take over power, the socialists (Social Democrats) like AOC are the first ones they eliminate. 

As far as socialism being a stepping stone towards Communism, again history doesn’t bear this out. To my knowledge there has never been a country run by socialists or social Democrats that transformed itself into a Communist country. Communism never emerges from popular vote;  every Communist regime in world history emerged from violent revolution or outside invasion. 

Finally you should also be aware that the most pivotal moment to our victory in the Cold War against the USSR occurred when the Social Democrats of Berlin, with our assistance, stood up against the Communists who were trying to make them slaves. Those Berlin socialists, of whom AOC is an intellectual descendent, were the vanguard of human liberty against the oppressor. 

[TimHauck 2,654]

5 hours ago, MDC said:

Having trouble reading? 

“Shocking” comments from the violent left!  

I assume @Gladiators comment was more in reference to the “what we were all thinking” comment.  I’d like to think it’s not that common for people to wish death on others, but maybe I’m wrong.

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

As I said earlier- if you polled all American adults she is probably right...but this should have remained an internal comment and not put out there. So yes- I disagree with how she went about this. I don't think anyone here agrees with how she went about it.

Right about what exactly?

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

I think MDC is basically saying the same thing as me. I'd wager most Americans do hate CEO's of health insurance companies....but she went the wrong way about putting this out there. 

I’d agree that most Americans “hate” health insurance CEO’s.  But I’d also wager that most don’t want them to die.

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Had he not died I wonder if the CEO would have recieved good health care to recover from the incident.

Maybe not initially....

 

But if you make three phone calls to them over the course of a few months getting them to rerun the codes AND fax over the authorization forms from the doctor they would have reconsidered the request

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

Right about what exactly?

I’d agree that most Americans “hate” health insurance CEO’s.  But I’d also wager that most don’t want them to die.

I think she is right that thousands of Americans would agree they are okay if health insurance CEO's are dead.

I would agree it is not "most" and I misquoted what she has said in the second post. But I put nothing past the American people necessarily. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,951]

15 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Do you?

That wasn't my point.

[MDC 7,208]

18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I assume @Gladiators comment was more in reference to the “what we were all thinking” comment.  I’d like to think it’s not that common for people to wish death on others, but maybe I’m wrong.

I wasn’t suggesting we were all wishing death on him, only that it’s understandable why someone would want to shoot a health insurance executive. 

[TimHauck 2,654]

10 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

That wasn't my point.

Seems odd that you’re implying one side wants reporters dead (I don’t think that’s true) in a thread about that side complaining about the other side wanting health insurance CEO’s dead.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,101]

The hypocrisy is amusing. Usual suspects.