OG Maga vs Maga tech bros

[thegeneral 2,875]

4 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

No problem there  

Those are jobs being taken away from American Hoes!

[peenie 1,896]

Hasn't Trump been using illegals in construction for decades? Why would anyone believe he truly wanted illegals out of this country when he and all of his rich industry titans use them to make their billions? 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

6 minutes ago, peenie said:

Hasn't Trump been using illegals in construction for decades? Why would anyone believe he truly wanted illegals out of this country when he and all of his rich industry titans use them to make their billions? 

2016 he had them convinced that he could “stop it” because he “knew how it was done.” Basically that he was an inside man on their side

At this point it is simply willful suspension of disbelief.

[thegeneral 2,875]

16 minutes ago, peenie said:

Hasn't Trump been using illegals in construction for decades? Why would anyone believe he truly wanted illegals out of this country when he and all of his rich industry titans use them to make their billions? 

It’s typical political bullshet from Don. He’s on all sides of this one so he can’t be wrong!

In this case he’s being given good guidance as these visas are a good idea in many instances, of course the program can be tweaked (some call this bureaucracy ).

 

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

39 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Those are jobs being taken away from American Hoes!

The Pedros and Berry Pickers built one of the homes I just sold. Piece of trash was half falling down, only 3 years old. 

That's what you're getting. It's not helping you in any way. Less skilled doesn't equal better 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,896]

35 minutes ago, peenie said:

Hasn't Trump been using illegals in construction for decades? Why would anyone believe he truly wanted illegals out of this country when he and all of his rich industry titans use them to make their billions? 

No. Union labor. 

[thegeneral 2,875]

41 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

The Pedros and Berry Pickers built one of the homes I just sold. Piece of trash was half falling down, only 3 years old. 

That's what you're getting. It's not helping you in any way. Less skilled doesn't equal better 

The tech bros who built companies seem to disagree and told this to Don who seems to be smitten, so he parroted it and added that he’s always used these programs in his typical bullshittery way.

For your home purchases, maybe a bit more research next time on your builders. 

[peenie 1,896]

• Construction has the highest concentration of undocumented workers, who make up 13.7% of its workforce.
• Despite its smaller overall workforce, Agriculture relies heavily on undocumented workers, who constitute 12.7% of its labor force.

 

Industry	Illegal Immigrant Workers	Share of Industry Workforce
1. Construction	1,544,600	13.7%
2. Agriculture	244,700	12.7%
3. Hospitality	1,002,200	7.1%
4. General Services	500,800	6.5%
5. Wholesale Trade	193,400	5.5%
6. Transportation and Warehousing	460,500	5.5%
7. Manufacturing	870,400	5.4%
8. Professional Services	970,800	4.7%
9. Retail Trade	708,500	3.9%
10. Mining and Extraction	22,100	3.6%

[Fnord 2,049]

12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The tech bros who built companies seem to disagree and told this to Don who seems to be smitten, so he parroted it and added that he’s always used these programs in his typical bullshittery way.

For your home purchases, maybe a bit more research next time on your builders. 

We both know he isn't going to place blame on the builders. Everything wrong with the world is due to brown people and libs and Trump will fix all of it.

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

For your home purchases, maybe a bit more research next time on your builders

I built it to sell it. Do your homework and you'd see that different builders will use the same crews. They effectively follow the work. 

It's all the same garbage anymore. 

My personal home was custom built. It's built like a tank and survived numerous hurricanes without a scratch. Americans built it, ones who actually take pride in their work. 

That won't happen with a Pedro built production. All the Pedros do is drive the prices down on garbage homes.  

[Fnord 2,049]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I built it to sell it. Do your homework and you'd see that different builders will use the same crews. They effectively follow the work. 

It's all the same garbage anymore. 

My personal home was custom built. It's built like a tank and survived numerous hurricanes without a scratch. Americans built it, ones who actually take pride in their work. 

That won't happen with a Pedro built production. All the Pedros do is drive the prices down on garbage homes.  

So you had the POS house built so you could knowingly sell it to unsuspecting dupes? Good work, Mr. Integrity. Can't say I'm surprised.

[thegeneral 2,875]

15 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I built it to sell it. Do your homework and you'd see that different builders will use the same crews. They effectively follow the work. 

It's all the same garbage anymore. 

My personal home was custom built. It's built like a tank and survived numerous hurricanes without a scratch. Americans built it, ones who actually take pride in their work. 

That won't happen with a Pedro built production. All the Pedros do is drive the prices down on garbage homes.  

If we are talking anecdotal stories about home building…I have a few odd jobs that I don’t want to do on my house. I hired some good old American dudes. They have bullshitted, delayed, and caused nothing but hassles and they haven’t even started the work yet. Been like a month of this BS. Who knows what happens when they actually work.

Not sure what this has to do with a couple of tech dudes (one of them foreign born, another brown) leading Trump around by the nose on this issue but pretty typical here on the GC.

Sounds like you are probably unhappy with Don’s pivot on this matter in any case.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,896]

India is a gross country and Indian culture is gross as well. 

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No. Union labor. 

Only when he has to.  He hates unions and will not use them whenever he can.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,896]

2 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Only when he has to.  He hates unions and will not use them whenever he can.

I guess that’s why none of them endorsed him. Or held back on endorsing Kamala. 

[avoiding injuries 1,501]

2 hours ago, peenie said:

• Construction has the highest concentration of undocumented workers, who make up 13.7% of its workforce.
• Despite its smaller overall workforce, Agriculture relies heavily on undocumented workers, who constitute 12.7% of its labor force.

 

Industry	Illegal Immigrant Workers	Share of Industry Workforce
1. Construction	1,544,600	13.7%
2. Agriculture	244,700	12.7%
3. Hospitality	1,002,200	7.1%
4. General Services	500,800	6.5%
5. Wholesale Trade	193,400	5.5%
6. Transportation and Warehousing	460,500	5.5%
7. Manufacturing	870,400	5.4%
8. Professional Services	970,800	4.7%
9. Retail Trade	708,500	3.9%
10. Mining and Extraction	22,100	3.6%

And if the unions claim HT mentioned is true? Seems likely. Or are we just going to ignore that after the accusation was made?
 

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

2 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

And if the unions claim HT mentioned is true? Seems likely. Or are we just going to ignore that after the accusation was made?
 

It's not true.  Trump avoids unions whenever he can.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,896]

30 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

It's not true.  Trump avoids unions whenever he can.

Yeah. That’s why he built most of his empire in NY and NJ. Good places to avoid union labor. Idiot.  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. That’s why he built most of his empire in NY and NJ. Good places to avoid union labor. Idiot.  

 

https://cwa-union.org/trumps-anti-worker-record

http://www.ibew.org/articles/16ElectricalWorker/EW1608/IBEW_Trump.0816.html

https://aflcio.org/2016/7/12/when-donald-trump-had-choice-he-chose-nonunion-labor-his-construction-projects-ibew

Oof

[Hardcore troubadour 14,896]

IBEW. lol. Why don’t you just ask the American communist party their thoughts? Stay in your lane Worms.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

2 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Trump avoids unions whenever he can.

Stupid asss, NJ and NY are nothing but Union Labor. 

How many times do you need your asss kicked before you learn something? 

[WhiteWonder 2,673]

On 12/26/2024 at 7:54 PM, TimHauck said:

I think even @iam90sbaby has said we should only accept immigrants with college degrees.  So he’s okay with immigrants taking the good paying jobs, just not the crappy ones that most Americans don’t want to do.  Brilliant!

Well there obviously is a difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants. No one should be okay with illegal immigrants of any kind.  I'm sure there are far less cases of illegal immigration among the immigrants with college educations demographic. 

[WhiteWonder 2,673]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I guess that’s why none of them endorsed him. Or held back on endorsing Kamala. 

You betta thank a union membah!  

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

 

https://cwa-union.org/trumps-anti-worker-record

http://www.ibew.org/articles/16ElectricalWorker/EW1608/IBEW_Trump.0816.html

https://aflcio.org/2016/7/12/when-donald-trump-had-choice-he-chose-nonunion-labor-his-construction-projects-ibew

Oof

[Maximum Overkill 1,733]

1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said:

You betta thank a union membah!  

You mean thank the Mafia? 

[Horseman 2,350]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

 

https://cwa-union.org/trumps-anti-worker-record

http://www.ibew.org/articles/16ElectricalWorker/EW1608/IBEW_Trump.0816.html

https://aflcio.org/2016/7/12/when-donald-trump-had-choice-he-chose-nonunion-labor-his-construction-projects-ibew

Oof

Do you read the links you post?  0/3 have anything to do with NY. 2/3 specifically give stats that are OUTSIDE of NY.  Gosh you dumb son.  

3 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

It's not true.  Trump avoids unions whenever he can.

What's Bannon have to say about it?  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,826]

10 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Do you read the links you post?  0/3 have anything to do with NY. 2/3 specifically give stats that are OUTSIDE of NY.  Gosh you dumb son.  

What's Bannon have to say about it?  

How about Piers Morgan?  

[Horseman 2,350]

Hint: ALL contractors hire the cheapest labor they can.  And immediately fire (or send back to the haul if union) anyone that's not pulling their weight.  They also get the materials at the lowest possible price, even if that means buying from China instead of US. That's how you stay competitive and make money. 

Thats why the union and/or buy America arguments are so stupid.  Its amazing how clueless libs are about how the real world works.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,896]

Hard to believe Trump tired to get the best price. What a stooge. Gutterboy is like a little kid.  No real life experience.  

[Horseman 2,350]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hard to believe Trump tired to get the best price. What a stooge. Gutterboy is like a little kid.  No real life experience.  

I'm sure the blinds he pulls down so the neighbors don't see him jerkingoff when he's supposedly "working" from home are American made and installed by union workers.  100%  

[TimHauck 2,587]

22 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Hint: ALL contractors hire the cheapest labor they can.  And immediately fire (or send back to the haul if union) anyone that's not pulling their weight.  They also get the materials at the lowest possible price, even if that means buying from China instead of US. That's how you stay competitive and make money. 

Thats why the union and/or buy America arguments are so stupid.  Its amazing how clueless libs are about how the real world works.  

Hey genius, libs weren’t the ones mad about H1B visas.

Go whine some more about someone mentioning Steve Bannon.

[Horseman 2,350]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Hey genius, libs weren’t the ones mad about H1B visas.

Go whine some more about someone mentioning Steve Bannon.

Who started the thread about it Einstein?  

Next list how many posts there are with conservatives mad about it, quote them so we can all see. 

Then, after failing badly, punch yourself in the nutsack. If you have any left.  

[Horseman 2,350]

Why do the autistic posters always follow me around?  Do I have fishing lures and tinfoil stuck on me? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,896]

Sure sign the adults are soon back in charge. Debates about jobs and immigration,  not tampons in the boys room.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,896]

Just now, Horseman said:

Why do the autistic posters always follow me around?  Do I have fishing lures and tinfoil stuck on me? 

It’s because of your toxic masculinity. 

[TimHauck 2,587]

17 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Who started the thread about it Einstein?  

Next list how many posts there are with conservatives mad about it, quote them so we can all see. 

Then, after failing badly, punch yourself in the nutsack. If you have any left.  

Lol you think if it didn’t happen at the Geek Club then it didn’t happen?  But if you insist, here are a few.  Keep in mind there are not many active posters here so this is probably about 20% of the board.  Much of the rest of the thread was @EternalShinyAndChrome  spazzing to Gutter that it was a fake controversy and you spazzing about Steve Bannon.  Interestingly it appears @Strike has not made an appearance in this thread despite starting a prior thread against H1B visas.

On 12/27/2024 at 9:01 AM, lickin_starfish said:

https://media.scored.co/scale/6Z5OgCqjhWewNMsq.jpeg

 

On 12/27/2024 at 1:29 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m OG MAGA so of course I don’t want jobs in America going to Chinese and Indian imports. I’ll stick by that. But when you see how the likes of Gutterboy, who is in tech, treat the work day I can see why the tech billionaires get a little frustrated and want cheaper and better.  Still against it. 

 

On 12/28/2024 at 9:11 PM, Frozenbeernuts said:

This is actually true. Trump didn't wait any time at all.

Argument "We want H1b1 for only super skilled jobs"

Pro Americans "No. Why would we support giving our jobs way to non Americans."

Trump "Hey I use it for my cooks and grass clippers"

 

On 12/29/2024 at 11:11 AM, Cdub100 said:

100% against H1B visas.

I worked at a software company that brought in these guys from India. 

They are cheaper because they do sh1tty work. 

The company would stack 8 men in a two-bedroom apt. 

They smelled because of deplorable hygiene. In turn, they would trash the office space because they are generally dirty people.

These visas take jobs away from Americans. There are better options companies can use to bring in the top .01%

 

 

On 12/29/2024 at 11:29 AM, Cdub100 said:

Trump seemed to flip flop on H1B. He tried to get rid of it but it seems like he will try and reform the program now.

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hard to believe Trump tired to get the best price. What a stooge. Gutterboy is like a little kid.  No real life experience.  

You’ll excuse anything. What a b1tch  

[MDC 7,105]

The adults are back in charge so we can talk about the issues that matter: dog-eating immigrants and trannies.  

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

9 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hard to believe Trump tired to get the best price. What a stooge. Gutterboy is like a little kid.  No real life experience.  

You're too dumb to understand that horsesh1t was supporting my point, that Trump will only use unions when he has to and has a history of using as cheap labor as possible and screwing over said labor all the time.  Your assertion that he only uses Union labor is ignorant. You flip flopped real quick on this one.

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

9 hours ago, Horseman said:

Why do the autistic posters always follow me around?  Do I have fishing lures and tinfoil stuck on me? 

Follow you around?  You showed up on a Sunday afternoon being away for a week and rapid fired a dozen posts about me with copious emojis and then followed me to other threads to post about Steve Bannon.

Then you talk about how I'm autistic and follow you around. it's all projection with zero self awareness.