LA Wildfires, 100K people evacuated and counting

[Alias Detective 1,393]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not a fan of Karen Bass. I wanted the other guy to win. I’m not gonna call her a POS like @Strike though. I don’t think a mayor can cut funding on her own, that’s  done by the city council I think: also the trip to Ghana is typical for big city mayors and in truth there are advantages to be gained by such trips in terms of trade and investment opportunities. It’s just bad luck that she is there right now. 
 

All in all it’s not a good look for her but trying to blame her for this catastrophe would be misguided. 

 

3 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

mismanagement of the reservoir.

 

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No water for the fire hydrants. But I bet everyone got their diversity training. 

 

3 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

Any update of the fire hydrants not having water.  Great Job!

Mayoral responsibilities.  Agree?

[supermike80 1,881]

38 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No I’m not, but some folks in here looking to use this as an excuse to attack liberals (not that they ever need one) is focking disgusting. I could just as easily attack conservatives for ignoring climate change, and with a whole lot more merit, but I’m not going to do that, because it won’t change anything and frankly it’s not the time to have that discussion. Thousands of people are waiting to find out if their homes burned down, including my loved ones. This is a terrible tragedy. You guys that want to attack Newsom or Bass or libs in general, go f*ck yourselves. Seriously. 

Well.  Once you get past your feelings,  there needs to be a discussion on what happened and why.  Being a little girl and holding your hands over your ears because this is happening is not helping.   I said many times in this thread, including replies to your posts, that this ia horrible and i feel so bad for those affected.  However we must find out why. Why did they start, why did they spread, why are we not able to contain better than whats happening now?

To completely dismiss others opinions, and trying to act like an expert on this, when you don’t really know....is not the right answer 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,254]

Newsome/ Bass 2028

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

12 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

 

 

 

Mayoral responsibilities.  Agree?

Maybe. Not necessarily. A lot of this fire, including where my in laws live, is in unincorporated LA County. Not part of the city. 
 

In addition, I don’t know the mayor’s exact responsibilities in a city that also has a city council and an independent fire department. So I can’t answer you. I’m skeptical that anyone here can. 

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

6 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Well.  Once you get past your feelings,  there needs to be a discussion on what happened and why.  Being a little girl and holding your hands over your ears because this is happening is not helping.   I said many times in this thread, including replies to your posts, that this ia horrible and i feel so bad for those affected.  However we must find out why. Why did they start, why did they spread, why are we not able to contain better than whats happening now?

To completely dismiss others opinions, and trying to act like an expert on this, when you don’t really know....is not the right answer 

Again you accuse me of acting like I’m an expert and I’m not doing that. But yeah I think I can dismiss some of the opinions here if they’re completely biased and irrelevant which many of them are. For example, forest management has NOTHING to do with the Malibu fire. 
 

As to your first point I agree 100%. If we find flaws in the system, mistakes, deliberate actions based on political philosophy that made things worse, by all means let’s have that discussion. I think it’s a little early to have it now and I sick to death of every time there’s a crisis people blaming liberalism (or conservatism) and lining up to take sides and prove they were right. 

[supermike80 1,881]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Again you accuse me of acting like I’m an expert and I’m not doing that. But yeah I think I can dismiss some of the opinions here if they’re completely biased and irrelevant which many of them are. For example, forest management has NOTHING to do with the Malibu fire. 
 

As to your first point I agree 100%. If we find flaws in the system, mistakes, deliberate actions based on political philosophy that made things worse, by all means let’s have that discussion. I think it’s a little early to have it now and I sick to death of every time there’s a crisis people blaming liberalism (or conservatism) and lining up to take sides and prove they were right. 

This is your quote:

Yeah none of this is relevant to the current crisis. And anyhow it’s total bullsh!t

Now if that isnt you trying to be the expert i dont know what is. So please stop it.

 

 

[Alias Detective 1,393]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Maybe. Not necessarily. A lot of this fire, including where my in laws live, is in unincorporated LA County. Not part of the city. 
 

In addition, I don’t know the mayor’s exact responsibilities in a city that also has a city council and an independent fire department. So I can’t answer you. I’m skeptical that anyone here can. 

   

Is it you are afraid to assign the entire blame on the mayor or any blame on the mayor?  I want to know this answer before I go any further.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,908]

This is horrible. I've been listening to the local EMS/Fire channels. There's no way to get to a lot of these people, their trapped. So sad  

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

5 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

   

Is it you are afraid to assign the entire blame on the mayor or any blame on the mayor?  I want to know this answer before I go any further.  

I’m not afraid of anything. You asked a question and I tried to answer it as best I could. I don’t like Karen Bass. If she’s proven to be incompetent it wouldn’t surprise me. But I don’t know her role in this stuff and I’m skeptical of people making assumptions at this point. 

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

This is horrible. I've been listening to the local EMS/Fire channels. There's no way to get to a lot of these people, their trapped. So sad  

It’s terrible. Some of my in-laws neighbors refused to leave. Really stubborn, thought they could save their homes, stand on the roof with a hose, etc. No clue what has happened to them. 

Other folks have insisted on returning to their houses today and they’re impeding access for the firefighters. Just really dumb IMO. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,800]

45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

How do you know I’m not? 

Every second you spend sparring with Seafoam is a second you could have spent making a difference.  

[HellToupee 1,707]

Horrible situation. I feel bad for MAGA patriots living there and other regular CA residents 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

Heard now from a friend that the Sunset Mesa (where my in-laws lived) is completely lost. No confirmation. Damn…

[Maximum Overkill 1,908]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Heard now from a friend that the Sunset Mesa (where my in-laws lived) is completely lost. No confirmation. Damn…

I hear similar reports on the Scanner 

[Alias Detective 1,393]

21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not afraid of anything. You asked a question and I tried to answer it as best I could. I don’t like Karen Bass. If she’s proven to be incompetent it wouldn’t surprise me. But I don’t know her role in this stuff and I’m skeptical of people making assumptions at this point. 

You’re an imbecile.

[jbycho 754]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Heard now from a friend that the Sunset Mesa (where my in-laws lived) is completely lost. No confirmation. Damn…

Condolences. They were not smart to live there. They got what they asked for. Same with people in  hurricane areas.

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

5 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Condolences. They were not smart to live there. They got what they asked for. Same with people in  hurricane areas.

They’ve lived there for over 50 years. During that time there was only one mandatory evacuation before yesterday, about 30 years ago. You’re an idiot. 

[jbycho 754]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

They’ve lived there for over 50 years. During that time there was only one mandatory evacuation before yesterday, about 30 years ago. You’re an idiot. 

I guess they don't follow what the state of things are in their area. Like I said, their problem. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,254]

This is when you find out what the priorities of a government were/ are. They complained and complained about the levees in New Orleans for years before Katrina.  Then they broke. 

[HellToupee 1,707]

Some might say it’s all by design, like the Maui fire

[avoiding injuries 1,558]

Tim, sorry to hear about Sunset Mesa. I heard reports on the news and from James Woods giving an interview to CNN that insurance companies canceled policy holders fire insurance a few months ago. I hope your in-laws weren’t one of them. 

[nobody 2,651]

It's eerie around here.  The smoke and ash in the air is causing a ghostly grey haze over the north side of the city.

[nobody 2,651]

7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not a fan of Karen Bass. I wanted the other guy to win. I’m not gonna call her a POS like @Strike though. I don’t think a mayor can cut funding on her own, that’s  done by the city council I think: also the trip to Ghana is typical for big city mayors and in truth there are advantages to be gained by such trips in terms of trade and investment opportunities. It’s just bad luck that she is there right now. 
 

All in all it’s not a good look for her but trying to blame her for this catastrophe would be misguided. 

I look forward to hearing about the trade and investment this visit helped spur.

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

7 minutes ago, nobody said:

I look forward to hearing about the trade and investment this visit helped spur.

You won’t hear it from me. What I wrote was in general terms. I have no idea about this visit. 

[nobody 2,651]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

You won’t hear it from me. What I wrote was in general terms. I have no idea about this visit. 

I'm well aware I won't be hearing about it from anyone.

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

23 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Tim, sorry to hear about Sunset Mesa. I heard reports on the news and from James Woods giving an interview to CNN that insurance companies canceled policy holders fire insurance a few months ago. I hope your in-laws weren’t one of them. 

Thanks. No their insurance is fine. But there’s still no confirmation about their house and won’t be for a few days. Perhaps some houses survived; apparently the Getty did so why not? We’ll keep on hoping until we know. 

[nobody 2,651]

24 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Tim, sorry to hear about Sunset Mesa. I heard reports on the news and from James Woods giving an interview to CNN that insurance companies canceled policy holders fire insurance a few months ago. I hope your in-laws weren’t one of them. 

Yep, I have kin in Tahoe, and they said they haven't been able to get insurance in over a year.

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

I’m not surprised that Trump immediately attacked Newsom and Newsom responded by immediately attacking Trump. But I find it unfortunate and depressing. I don’t like either of these two politicians. 

Say what you will about Joe Biden, but all he does in these situations is offer to help. So sick and tired of the blame game. 

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

Yep, I have kin in Tahoe, and they said they haven't been able to get insurance in over a year.

This is going to lead to a crisis. Most people in Pacific Palisades are very wealthy. They’re going to demand to rebuild, but they won’t do it without new insurance in place. If the insurance companies refuse then just like in Florida there will be tremendous pressure placed on the politicians to step in. And the politicians won’t ignore Pacific Palisades; it’s been a major fundraising source for both parties. 

[nobody 2,651]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not surprised that Trump immediately attacked Newsom and Newsom responded by immediately attacking Trump. But I find it unfortunate and depressing. I don’t like either of these two politicians. 

Say what you will about Joe Biden, but all he does in these situations is offer to help. So sick and tired of the blame game. 

Yeah, I'm sure FEMA is on the way with some bottled water and checks for $750.

[HellToupee 1,707]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Say what you will about Joe Biden, but all he does in these situations is offer to help. So sick and tired of the blame game.

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

Just now, nobody said:

Yeah, I'm sure FEMA is on the way with some bottled water and checks for $750.

Whatever. Just tired of the attacks. Seriously aren’t you? 

[Cdub100 3,886]

Didn't one of the fire chiefs care more about DEI hirers? 

From what I know California doesn't do proper fire maintenance. They don't want to upset some random bug or something. Even if they did want to do the maintenance they spend all their money on illegals.

Meanwhile, democrats take every opportunity to push their climate scam. 

Reap what you sow. 

[nobody 2,651]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Whatever. Just tired of the attacks. Seriously aren’t you? 

No.  They are all crooks and grifters.  Both sides.  In Biden's case he and his kid are crooks, grifters, and also incompetent in almost every way, so it's even worse.

[nobody 2,651]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

Didn't one of the fire chiefs care more about DEI hirers? 

From what I know California doesn't do proper fire maintenance. They don't want to upset some random bug or something. Even if they did want to do the maintenance they spend all their money on illegals.

Meanwhile, democrats take every opportunity to push their climate scam. 

Reap what you sow. 

Yeah, we had some program giving out free money to illegals awhile back.  Probably could've spent it on maintenance.

[nobody 2,651]

I'd have cut this program and paid for some forest maintenance.

https://www.cdss.ca.gov/inforesources/cash-assistance-for-immigrants

[nobody 2,651]

I found some funding for forest maintenance everyone.  

Here's about $115 Million that is being flushed down the toilet.

One California: The Governor’s budget maintains an ongoing allocation of $43.7 million from the General Fund to the California Department of Social Services to support legal services, as well as education and outreach, to low-income immigrant Californians. 

New Office of Community Partnerships and Strategic Communications: The budget includes $65 million in ongoing General Fund allocations to create the Office of Community Partnerships and Strategic Communications – formalizing infrastructure created by Census 2020 and COVID-19 public awareness and community engagement campaigns. Housed in the Office of Planning and Research (OPR), this new office seeks to engage Californians experiencing the “greatest health and social inequities” – including immigrant communities – with culturally competent and relevant information. This includes providing funding opportunities and programs to support community needs or interests; helping CBOs obtain information from state departments; and sharing community insights with relevant departments. 

Resource Navigation: The budget includes $8.7 million in grant funding for local governments to provide technical assistance to immigrant communities in navigating state and local resources. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,254]

So the fire department that serves the citizens of LA had to have its budget cut so the citizens of other countries could be given social services. And you libtards are confused as to how Trump could win again and still get support no matter the stupid shitt that he says. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,800]

19 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Didn't one of the fire chiefs care more about DEI hirers? 

From what I know California doesn't do proper fire maintenance. They don't want to upset some random bug or something. Even if they did want to do the maintenance they spend all their money on illegals.

Meanwhile, democrats take every opportunity to push their climate scam. 

Reap what you sow. 

Trump should take over the management of California there are some good people and resources in that state that don’t deserve this incompetence and failed social experiments.  

[thegeneral 3,119]

Good lord this place is filled with miserable focks